Topic: TMAN & Lauda - page 2. (Read 1267 times)

MarquiseMuseum,

You might not be a scammer. However, what you are saying is highly risk and everyone involved in probably lose money.

You are saying you have assets backed by thousands of dollars, gold... you expect your paintings to be like Andy Warhol. You try to make your project look serious, but you are doing everythign the wrong way. You are trying to look for investors here in this BITCOIN forum, Promoting an altcoin?

This is not things should be done. Have you hired people to audit your company (if you have one), proving that you own all those things you claim?

You are still talking about a nearly dead project like Waves, which is losing value day by day. Probably one the worst platforms to host a new project today, because it is *probably* dying soon.


I was looking at your website , where you are talking about the loan.
https://www.marquisemuseum.com/x30-loan

You are only talking about the scenario where Waves increases it price (so you can pay 30x faster). But if Waves goes to 0, what happens to the investors 30x? You know that 0x30 = 0 right?

It is almost zero now. 0.63, and ATH was 18.

Never thought I'd get a chance to do this. Must be my lucky day.

Judgement about the OP and their project aside, this flag doesn't even meet the basic technical requisites for creating a flag, such as a flag thread.

How many of these have been produced?

You say the book contains 125 grams of 24k gold. Assuming this is true, this is worth a little less than $6,000. Where is the other $24,000 dollar of valuation you place on the book coming from? Have you had it independently valued, or are these just numbers you have arrived at yourself?

Ooft. So in addition to thinking Waves is going to grow by 86,000% in 2 years, you also think your book is going to see similar increases in value as Andy Warhol's paintings, and some day be worth millions of dollars?

I appreciate your feedback on this implementation.

BTC does not have staking rewards, the user must convert into waves to gain the margin that I otherwise reserve for development and company profit. I don't know why everybody simply don't do everything themselves instead of paying banking fees or waiters at restaurant, I guess many reasons. Fundamentally, the cryptobook is the backed asset of $M-2, so it must be a purveyor of collectible contemporary art who will make that investment call. In essence, the $30k book is the material gain. It is impossible to imply that it will have an Andy Warhol level of generational store of value, but there are some elements here that are required to mimic that type of potential mainly in its time stamped issuance in february 2018 combined with a novel system of fractionalizing artistic ownership.

Thanks to world class artist renditions from Poland, Brazil, Bangladesh, USA and esteemed Swedish manufacturing subsidiaries, the production quality of this item is absolutely top of the line. It also contains 125 grams 24k gold.

On a comparison with Andy's growth, it's $30 000 to $450 000 000 on a 30-40 year horizon. I mean, who knows?
Andy had timing but I doubt his vision from an investors standpoint was taken into consideration. And there are limitations in that debate due to Howey restrictions.

Exactly. So your entire scheme is to pass 100% of the risk on to someone else, while skimming 50% of their profits off the top for yourself. I'll ask again: What does someone else have to gain by giving you 5 BTC to stake on their behalf and take 50% of their profits? Why not just do it themselves and keep 100% of the profits, since they are assuming 100% of the risk in both scenarios?

I don't need to raise my own cattle to know that McDonald's burgers are trash, and I don't need to have my own project to know that your "loan" system is trash.

To Bitmover and Oeleo, I did invest alot of money over these 2 years along with many unpaid hours.

This idea is completely new because Waves recently implemented a change in monetary system, so of course as soon as I thought about it, I optioned to include it into the project. A lending scheme using waves will be implemented on their new exchange, there are alot of developments taking place in that coin right now, but also high risk.

The $M-2 stack has separate USP inherent to project specifications such as redeeming the art portfolio. This offer is directed to those who find Marquise $Museum interesting but too high risk to allocate a medium amount of capital.

It is easy to complain, but harder to innovate. Where are your own projects guys? hm?

There is one top 1 wallet with 370 million coins, he will receive repayment offer for x30 profit but we need to allocate a mandatory market for that stack because Euro and USD are filled at 1 cent, and the others are using many decimals. OTC transfer is of course a possibility in this case, BTC market is also small at 1 sat.

And about waves parabola, I never claimed to compete with a multi million dollar ICO. $MM is a nano cap small budget launch and I am sure waves will outperform most other cryptos including mine. However, the offer is in BTC market, not waves, I expect BTC to underperform on a 5 year horizon compared to native index platforms like vechainl stellar, waves and centralized migrations like nasdaq dollars.

I guess my flag is unwarranted indeed. Reference link more or less.

That's the point.

Some idiot just shows up saying that he can make your money go 30x by trading or fundamental shitcoin analysis or whatever.

Being an idiot is not an excuse for losing other people's money
The flag or trust is about "dealing with this person is risky and you will probably lose money".

If OP believed he was that good to make 30x whenever he pleases he wouldn't be asking for someone else's money.
If you are asking for other people's money, get read to face a lot of judgments. And that's what is happening to you know: people are judging your strategy highly risky and you will (almost certainly) lose other people's money . You are not going to deliver 30x to anyone.

If you can make 30x do it with your money, or under a very clear business. Not as an anonymous guy asking for money from random people in the internet

My garbage is instantly convertible to USD if I can find some sucker willing to buy it. That doesn't make it either valuable or useful.

Yeah, I'm sure you'd love that. If your project is so good, why not invest your own money?

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The marketplace you have linked to is your token against Waves, not your token against BTC. I can't see a marketplace for your token against BTC. Can you confirm?

Your entire loan model seems to be able to be summarized as follows:

Loaner buys millions of your worthless token for 5 BTC.
You convert their 5 BTC in to Waves.
You stake the Waves.
You use 50% of the staking rewards to pay the loan, and 50% you keep as profit.

As far as I can see, you are essentially passing all the risk on to the loaner, and keeping 50% of their profit. If someone else held your delusional view that you "expect waves to go parabolic into $544 within 24 months" (n.b. Waves is currently worth 63 cents), why would they not just buy Waves themselves, stake them, and keep 100% of the profit? What do they have to gain by holding your worthless token and handing 50% of their profits over to you?

You are essentially asking for a no collateral loan of 5 BTC to gamble on an altcoin.

Instantly convertible into USDT and Waves.

Maybe you shouldn't beg for the horrible bitcoins that you dislike so much. Makes you sound like every other hypocrite shitcoiner.

Swedish government is using more sophisticated methods of provocation than this lynchmob. Something to genuinely fear. I will still practice self censorship as far as staff replies, it's a journey without destination so to speak.

If Welsch wants clarification, he is welcome to contact me in pm or company email.

Thank you for the attention to the others, and genuinely to those who opposed this arbitrary punishment for expressing free opinion.

Maybe someone is willing to put this project to the test with a puny 5 btc investment rather than talk shit. Talk is cheap.

What were you expecting? Do you go on your horsefucker forum and expect to get replies from altcoin activists?

Third worlder.

my head hurts... please someone do another flag so I can lose the one lauda is on and back up one that has more clout.. its obvious this dodgy bloke is as bent as a 50p note...


MarquiseMuseum night night princess

I'll take a look at the website a little later on when I can visit it with Tor, but from the replies here I'm not liking the nature of the website. However, this flag seemed to be related to the opinion of the user on the referenced thread. I imagine there would be a lot more support if it were directed at the users website.

This is a case of "too true to be good".

Unlike most ponzis, this is promising to repay from shitcoin staking and is admitting that it may take thousands of years. It doesn't have the "too good to be true" scammy odor.

And that's why I opposed the flag.  A lot of members hold extreme opinions about bitcoin, and I really don't think anyone is seriously at risk of losing money as a result of this one member expressing his.  I don't happen to think MarquiseMuseum is right about his take on bitcoin's future, but his opinion is certainly not worthy of a flag or negative trust. 

If I'm remembering correctly, Theymos doesn't want members using the trust system to tag people because of a difference of opinion--and that means neg trusting and flags by my interpretation. 

If that's the case, it's a different reason to open a flag against him.  Ponzi schemers often get negged, and they deserve it too--but the flag this guy got from Lauda wasn't for that.  If you think he's trying to scam people, make a new flag with a reference thread that gives enough evidence such that it gets support from a good number of members.