Topic: To all scammers - page 2. (Read 963 times)

They won't be caught maybe as you say but karma will come back for them, there is always a payback for every wrong you do for the society

I don`t justify scammers, however they came to this activity not from a good life. Some of poor guys understand that they don`t have any power to change something in this world, so they start scamming people just to get some money. This is not good. That`s why I think crypto will change the world, We all need to redistribute worlds wealth between people on the Earth, so that everybody can have power to make this world a little bit better.

This is not pretty much a lengthy one huh.  


Even if that's the case, again education is not enough. We NEED deeper than education, that is consciousness - psychological approach. They have to realize whether if they're being deceived at that moment. Performing sales talks, even con arts.


Ok. Why not just give support or suggest this to existing organizations that are by the way have the reputation and the people to get the job done.


By ensuring justice you mean all of them, right? Well, I must admit your idea is not impossible to do and quite impressive (I mean that in a good way).
But I'm sure that one group belonged to a much larger group of people. An organization, a syndicate of some sort.

There are many things to really have to consider here. And to the fact that this is a private organization, for sure the government will not just sit still and approve of this instantly, they will be intrigue and to the point that this is in the global scale, not to mention that there are already agencies like this.

These special task force units will be questioned. This is also a political matter, what if they will consider you as a threat and not a help.


I'm not surprise. I know, there are people that are willing to help. But you have to consider the boundaries.


Believe me, deception is a powerful skill. And they are bringing them to justice by those existing agencies or organization regarding the same matter. But its sad to tell that even white hat hackers are also considered to be brought to justice (not all of them, there are some cases).

It's easy to create a project, dream solution and search for information on the internet to create an experienced team. Scammer created a project, mobilized 20k-50k USD and then disappeared.
I know that the goal of the blockchain is to get rid of financial institutions and the law, but should they require legal registration projects to avoid fraud?

I am not going to go into it at length here, but you assume and read a lot into my previous post that are simply not there.

1. " Its like training a hacker here or an investigator. I wonder who would be interested in that, considering that countries already take measures in those cases" - No, my response in regards to that specific point is about empowering ordinary people to be able to spot scams through education. Nothing more, nothing less.

2. "Again, people won't be as good as those people that are specialized to do this. Besides, it would take a lot of time. You're not going to find them that easy" - Nowhere did I indicate that people with special abilities and skills won't do the tracing and tracking down (or that it will be done by ordinary people).

3. "Talk about international laws, if we have one. It depends on the country to where they belonged to. If they committed a crime (which is scamming people), the authorities who have the power to arrest people whatever country they are in. Some agencies like, Interpol or FBI, they are specialized in these kinds of stuffs" - Yes, international law is a relative term and cooperation with agencies such as Interpol can not be excluded, but efforts to ensure justice is served will not be limited or stand on their efforts alone. The idea with the proposed organization is to create a private organization that is supported by membership contributions, but actual field work - beyond the work needed to educate the public at large - will be done by setting up special task force units that have the expertise required to trace and track-down scammers on a global basis. They could be seen as private investigators operating in a highly specialized area. And yes, the approach from country to country will most likely differ, but make no mistake - there are many ways to skin a cat, just as scammers are using many ways to defraud and steal.

I think you will be surprised how many people with the skills required would be willing to help out, including white hat hackers. This might sound naive, but it is certainly not an impossibility. Difficult? Yes. Impossible? No.

"These kinds of people are just into the money, they don't care about anything else as long as their satisfactions are sustained" - What are you saying? Just because they're into the money, they should not be brought to justice? I think not.

I don't know about you mate, but you're being naive right now.

These kinds of people are just into the money, they don't care about anything else as long as their satisfactions are sustained.

International non-profit organization, nice name, but who would bother do that. Besides, if we say international, we also have to consider the consent of other countries and to be honest that's a very low chance. And so you think that they will give it a shot somehow, it would take a lot of time.

1. Its like training a hacker here or an investigator. I wonder who would be interested in that, considering that countries already take measures in those cases.

2. Again, people won't be as good as those people that are specialized to do this. Besides, it would take a lot of time. You're not going to find them that easy.

3. Talk about international laws, if we have one. It depends on the country to where they belonged to. If they committed a crime (which is scamming people), the authorities who have the power to arrest people whatever country they are in. Some agencies like, Interpol or FBI, they are specialized in these kinds of stuffs.

I don't know I thought abnormal thinking fell under the category psychotic behavior.

I can't help to wonder how many of them are bankster/state sponsored actors - people who are getting paid to bring disrepute to cryptos.

We need to set up an international non-profit organization that can be used to actively:

1. Educate people on how to spot and avoid becoming victims of scams,

2. trace and track down perpetrators

3. and make sure that justice is served!

They dont realise that their scamming is indiscriminate.
They dont realise that they could scam the last hope of someone who has put the little they have into crypto in the hope of a better future for themselves and/or their family.
They dont realise the damage they do goes virtually unseen to those unfortunate people.
They dont realise the talent they have can be better used to help themselves and others in a more humane and ethical way.

Though these scammers are not completely anonymous, they're just vague I par say. We really just lack information about them. Or to be frank, we lack skills to comprehend or realize that we are being scammed.

The process of it was by convincing people to believe in whatever they are doing, to be plain, they want you to trust them. Then there comes the deception, and you fall for the trap.

Although, you need real determination and patience in order for you to tell that these people are scammers, some research that is.


Not really psycho behavior, they'll do anything just to benefit for themselves, in short selfishness. They only care about their own satisfactions and their needs.

They kinda resembles me of whales, but there are difference between cleverness and being smart.

I think they are fully aware of the lives they are ruining when they do what they do, psychotic behavior.

Nice post. But I have read somewhere that a study found that many Serial killers didn't feel guilt and it is kind of how they are wired. I don't think scammers are any different.

PS: I do wish they steal some whale's money and he tracks them down and makes an example out of them

Even when bitcoin and cryptos in general will become mainstream, scammers have all the tools at their disposal to hide their identity very well. Some go even further and when they use mixers , altcoins or betting websites to move funds from one bitcoin address to a new one never used in a new wallet , they set time frames, yes time frames. I won't go any further in explanation as this will give some new scammers wannabe good insights where to start but since this is serious discussion board I believe everyone here understood what I mean.

This.. the system is kind of setup to where scammers have freedom to do as they wish too.. its just a part of freedom and decentralization and anonymity ( to some degree ) that people will capitalize on negatively as well. 

As bad as the scammers are trying (and really its rampant everywhere) over 99% of it is just a few personal safety steps to ensure that it doesn't happen... and I'd rather take the good with the bad over the alternative which is a centralized system that also doesn't give a damn about me and people get scammed everyday with identity theft and skimming credit/debit cards.

The whole world last century strives to become one big country, it can be said about wars, unions such as NATO, the UN and the more people will be unified, cohesive, it will be easier to catch a swindler in this crowd. But as one of the greatest thieves, Sergey Mavrodiy : "A fool is not a mammoth, he will not die out." How could he literally translated

Yeah bro thats why we need to broaden our knowledge in terms of technology because anytime and anywhere hacker always have a way of doing what they want. I dont think we have that kind of peoples who's only intention is to fraud and scam people for the sake of their living what happens regarding to their ethical side so sad think about that.

It's unfortunate to get scammed, but I don't think that with Bitcoin getting more popular is going to make their lives worse. More people are not going to look for them, in fact less people are going to care, because you're talking about scams that happened long before they were involved, so very little connection to them.

I think scammers in this field of industry will not be disappear, it will be a part or twin in crypto industry anyway. So the things is we must be wise in all ways of decision that we are going to make especially in investing any form of token or altcoins or partaking in bounty campaign projects.

for sure there are so many scammers in the Crypto currency market and especially the high risk ones

Imagine that people that are pulling the big scams are doing it without letting the people know whom they are. Some of them will come to the surface, but I highly doubt people will care that much.