Topic: To all WASP members and participants (Read 4707 times)

For the record, Joe (as you kindly dragged my name into this by mentioning me in that list you made just there)

I received my s hash boards from Technobit in good time and the units work perfectly. they have been going 24/7 with minimal downtime since I received them.

I would appreciate not being dragged into this mud slinging contest.

Nobody wins,  everyone gets dirty.

nice

And still there are people who think the WASP guys are designing some hashing boards

http://t.co/lvCj40YCb9

Updated List of Injured Parties

[Group Buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K  May 27, 2013, 18:09:59

darkfriend77: Requested 7% fees to be returned. Refuses to pay anything of what he promised out of spite.
souspeed: Unkown.  
Min€r: Unkown.  
patica: Unkown.
hacko.bg: Unkown.  
mbd4: Unkown.  
fex: Unkown.  
joeventura: Requested 7% fees to be returned as well as refund for chips. Refuses to pay anything of what he promised out of spite.
souspeed: Unkown.  
varunsin: Unkown.  
pajak666:  Requested 7% fees to be returned.  Still no resolution.
Betatester: Unkown.  
LainZ: Unkown.  
hookthem: Unkown.  
jkminkov: Unkown.  

TECHNOBIT S-HASH minig board and Bitfury October delivery chip distribution

adami: Unkown.  
gcube1305: I have wait 3 month for a board that never came, but i've been refunded.  
oscurito23: Unkown.
wallydz: Unkown.
warhawk187: Unkown.
easynote: Late delivery after many complaints.
jammertr: Unkown.
basd82: Unkown.
whiteEAGLE: Unkown.
ccfly: Unkown.
streetuff: Unkown.
seaandy: Refunded only after repeated hounding and posting in threads. Waited inordinately long for the refund.
falinka: Unkown.
wuzamarine: Poorly Hashing Unit. Unkown.
lancelot6: Failed Unit. Replacement requested. Unkown.
Moikka2: Unkown.
dplusf: Unkown.
cannachris: Unkown.
hennessy10009: No refund even though it was requested. Sent completed board with others chips. Had to pester them daily on the forum.
btcminer84: Still owed for miners. No refund. No miners.
Paratech: Still nothing delivered. No information and just empty promises.

Important to note that during all those events above you could have just given me my money back, but you only gave me the choice of the now worthless chips (that you never shipped) so you kept my money and the chips.

You are a thief and if anyone has any questions regarding how you do business (like the 6 or so people who have sent me PMs) I will be happy to send them somewhere else more reputable.

Its nice here, probably not as hot as it is where you are in Screweveryonedia

Greetings Joe.
How is the weather in Trollandia

YEs and you are proving that you can screw endless customers and not care.

So then it is just personal hate.
Then maybe the tread have to be renamed

To my knowledge he has no involvement with AMT.
Nobody is paying him.
He is a member like everyone else.

Gents,
Please let us get back on topic.
I am asking once agin what is Bick relation with AMT And who is paying him for his behavior here.
And I am asking what is Bick involvement with WASP Having in mind that he is not spokesmen. I will rename the thread immediately if someone gives me a clue.
Thanks   

I'm basically a participant for WASP. It seems thought that they are going great so far. Chips have been sent from Spondoolies and such and they are showing all their miners and progress. I hope for the best for the future. Remember that you guys are the lower competition at the moment; You have competition in China and other countries. This little talk is nothing and I suggest you two groups just put this aside.

We have KNC and Cointerra as well as much bigger guys like Avalon and Bitfury.

We've had big scams here as well with members who would just join the forum and ask for a shitload of BTC. You know what we have for you guys?

We have: A company named Technobit who delivers to the customers. Albeit, not all customers agree with this because they run into problems. It makes sense. You're a business and you will have problems. You won't have Hashfast or Butterfly labs problems, but you'll fall into disputes with customers and you'll find a way to make amends.

We have the WASP Project which is an open source miner project. I see some potential in the future, but it may be breaking down due to the increase of difficulty. If we could have a working miner by the end of this year or even have the Pickaxe chips from SP-Tech (which I heard will make other miners obsolete), Then the odds are in your favor. 1 TH miners that are priced at maybe 600 would be great and will keep up with the Difficulty.

That last part is my wish : )


But please guys, leave your fight aside; Keep doing what you guys are doing; A business and a Project.

Ffs, you're in the thread addressing all WPC members and talking about ego's.
Never mind, I wasted enough on this nonsense.

??
Sorry who am I insulting
And "many broken promises" ?
You sound like " you know who"

Marto, I thought you would quit insulting WPC members ?
Or is that one of your many broken promises ?

Actually this is a game of ego's I think

So this is not the White Anglo Saxon Prodestant social group.... 

Sometimes I feel this is like beeing in childrens garden except some play with coins instead of monopoly money and that's the reason for all that play. At least sometimes fun 

It is not excuse , just facts.
For the rest give an example with somebody that did not received gear or refund, except assembly service orders or fee from the GB?
Can you ?
I do not think so

You keep sticking with that story the evidence is on my side that you ripped be and dozens more people off.
What is your excuse for everyone else?

Joe it is great text to read.
and the facts are :
You did not send signed msg with refund request so you was not in the refund list for the escrow.
month later you begin to scream in the forums. After number of requests you gave me address for delivery and refused to pay for transport.
So I send the chips with regular mail. end of story.
You can troll as much as you want.

Best Martin

Boohoo, get over it.  Wrong thread BTW, genius.

Every detail on how Marto ripped me off:


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7374816

No I just fucked with Bick in answer of his furious hate, twisted facts and lies
And now as soon he is not writing on behalf of WPC I will not comment your organization anymore.
I never had anything against WPC.
But Bick was famous as WPC rep, so I was just answering
If you felt offended , please accept my apologies .

best Martin

You are dragging the WPC into it, so it is not personal with Bick anymore.
I am going back to keeping silent, this is all useless.

Ffs Ben
I'm just keeping this personal with him as it  is already.
As a real "narcisist " , who is building Moskvich in the 60's

If you do that he wil delete it 

Ffs Martin, if you have no clue, can you please keep a lid on it ?

As far bick is kicked from his Spokesman position in WPC.
I think the tread have to be renamed

Go write this in Bick's tread ::

Sorry he screwed you over, we will do our best to make sure he doesn't do it to more folks

Ok. Thx for that final statement, which at least is the truth and not a promise that you never intended to fulfil. I will now close this chapter as a bad experience.

 
Most of the participants that asked for fee return got them .
Again it is not my obligation to do it.
You will never got it. Why
Send my best to Brick.
Best Martin

Yeah Ben,

Please bring the other 54 people before loshia so he may question them.

LOL

Thank you Ben,
My goal was not to offend any of wpc members including you.
Please take my apology if you fell offended from me.
But I am not happy of your reply Ben.
I did not get the answers I was after.
Any way let us get on topic.
Is there someone else from WASP OR WPC members who can add something on topic?
Thank you very much

Can you please leave the WASP and its members out of your eruptions ? Last time I looked at the member list, there were 55.

The WPC, not WASP, members are wiser than you are. Staying silent is the best way to stop your shitstorm of nonsense.

You're an idiot to even think this. And Bick is a member, just like all the others and has no special role. He is not the project leader. He is more active than others though.

Wrong, there are 55 members. God is not involved in here, and please try to show some dignity. Every civilised person in the world writes God with a capital G. And while you are at it, try to use a spell checker when writing your texts.

Wrong, there is nothing for Bick to be ashamed of. He is a kind a person that can't stand wrong doing(or worse) from others and has a need to voice his opinion.

I do not refuse to say a word, it was just not worth it. So I am breaking my own stance here to say something. This whole mud slinging is leading to nothing. People should do what they promise and use decent business practices.

Nonsense, Bick has a strong aversion against wrongdoing and needs to voice his opinion when he sees it.

You got your reply, now can you please stop posting all this nonsense ?

Hey chuckles, when you get ripped for $800 from someone see if you can keep quiet about it.

Lets see if you can, send me 1.43BTC

(spoiler alert) you arent getting it back

Christ!  The drama here sounds like a bunch of teenage girls arguing.  Grow up folks!

I am also part of that GB, would be nice and ethical to send fees back

Probably only 10% of what you robbed from your customers. Good deal for you.

You keep attacking others but here is the deal, your customers that you screwed over aren't trying to sell things on this forum and you are.
I already got 3 PMs from people thanking me for exposing you.

Don't know if they were old customers or people who were considering buying your crap, but I will keep providing this service until you make things right.


Remember its REFUND not Blackmail.

It's Customer not TROLL

Hows business thief?

... you said you will sent back the fees marto74 ... your own words ... I'm waiting now over a half year on ... you ... paying me back my btc ....

how much do you think ?

How much did you pay ZBC3 for all his recent promotions of your company?

Gents,
Please let us get back on topic
There is not a single post on topic from a WASP involved person for the moment. Bick is actively refusing to post on topic also!
Bick,
You stated that you have 55 members.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7282824
I am wandering why anyone from them is not posting here?
Here are the possible options why they are not posting
1. They (WASP members) just do not care about this shitstorm - Very unlikely
2. They  (WASP members) are a chicken shits and are afraid of you the WASP project leader - Very unlikely
3. They  (WASP members) are not 55 as you state. WASP members are below 55 for sure. How many? Only god knows. Let us imagine not more than 10 people MAX  - Most Likley
4. All of the WASP members are just ASHAMED of your CONNECTION with AMT scam and YOUR shitty behavior in all I repeat ALL forum threads - MOST LIKLEY
5. Something in between option 3 and option 4.  I would say option 4 - - !!!!THE CASE!!!. Are ALL 55 WASP members (ore whatever their count is) actively refusing to say a word (even oftopic) for their PROJECT LEADER?. I doubt so.


I do strongly believe you are just paid for your forum behavior.

At the end I am asking who is PAYING you to that BICK?
Once again let us keep the good manners. Ontopic reply from you or ANY I repeat ANY WASP member will be highly appreciated
Thank you

Bick you are a joke
, really

Tsk tsk tsk...

Is he buying people off?

Wow. That is just sad.

I will be putting all my Marto74 efforts into a single thread and refrain from posting about him and his trolls in other threads. So to save the community from at least my own ramblings.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/technobit-fucks-us-over-again-647966

I bet you do.

like the input

Guys, you all have massive e-peen's....we get it already. 

No we can not and you are off
I do not owe you blackmail tax

Ohh is that the topic?

Because you are a thief is the answer.

Now we can close this thread.

 

There is still no answer on the OP question
Why Bick is supporting AMT
and why AMT support Bick in his attacks against us ?

Dear , WASP leader BICK (aka LED boy  Cheesy )
The fact is that attacking us and attempt to ruin our business with moderated treads,
and bringing up all our failures 3+ months behind , is not going to make a working WASP design.
Yes, we had troubles delivering, and there are people angry @ us.
But the fact is that everybody got their hardware or compensation or refund .
There are only a few from Avalon GB1, that ask for a fee refund, that is not refundable by the GB rules.
They got refund for the cost of the chips !!.

So BICK, we do not owe anything by the rules of the deals , and you are just twisting facts.

Bicknelski himself never did any business with us and started spiting on me and technobit in the moment we came out first with working A1 design and refused to give AMT free licence for our boards.
And as far he is not able to get free chips from us for his failed HW project he attacks us constantly for the last 3 months.
I know it is hard to admit yourself that there are others better than you.

AS far BICK succeed in making himself a joke I'll leave him to celebrate his shitstorm victory.


Now , Bick and AMT-Josh, please stop this
I do not know what kind of connection you have or not.
But it is obvious you work together on this.


p.s.
I love Christmas LED lights

p.s.2 This tread was removed from moderators as offtopic and sent to Romanian forum.
Obviously they support Bick's joke
In the same time they tolerate the troll Bick and his partner Joe

Just stay on topic

When the thief makes the rules.

Folks he had a GB that was like 5 to 6 months old, put a post in the thread (not PM) said everyone who had placed an order had a week to reply and then he was keeping everyone elses money.

Was not part of the rules, and he wants people to believe that as he made these posts these were the new rules.

So I made a new rule, let everyone and anyone know what a thief he is. Seems to be working out well.

He is now giving private incentives to his few good customers to repair his damaged trust, just like Josh did (thieves work the same)
No one is fooled by your tricks Marto. Refund the money to everyone you screwed.

where is WASP mining pool? where are WASP prototypes?

Poor BickLEDski...

Even AMT_miners don't want him :/

:+)

Any leds blinkinnnnn ?

These people are not grounded in reality unfortunately Joe.

Laaaaddiieeess and gentlemen !

let me introduce (in) to you the new WASP hashing board !

6 month of intense work design with the best PCB designer...

*Star wars music*




ROFL...

This forum is going down, down to the ground. What a useless thread.

More people Marto screwed over:

Please put me as #1 on the list you owe money to.

You can make your same stupid claim that you shipped my goods, and I will say you didn't.
I have proof I sent you the money, you have no proof you sent me anything.

You are a thief.

I been waiting to receive negative feedback from WASP team 

Thanks for deleting my post on your thread bick





To all WASP team member, don't worry to post here. This thread not self moderated.

and nothing more...

Do you think anyone will actually want to admit to being involved with a project that hasn't done shit?

Is there anyone from the people involved in WASP who will comment on topic?

Again Jents Let us stay on topic!!!!!
Please
I have the impression that Bicknellsky is the one and only member of WASP. No one else is showing up to say something ON TOPIC

No you'd probably charge them admission and then never deliver. Maybe we should have another meeting about it and cc everybody.

There is 3 names in a row you would never invite to a party. 

This is news to me... When was this invitation made?  How was this invitation made?  I don't rabidly follow everything you post and what I do see I tend to gloss over 90% of it as it's just the same old same old... can't say the same for you though, you seem to have to make some inane post after any post I make...

Today you become a joke BICK  
And I do not want to spend few hours discussing blinking LED's

Back on topic Bicknellcky pls

For you markj113 if you wanna know what is all about

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7212441

We tried to have them voice all their concerns to the WPC they don't seem to want to talk.  This all started with Loshia being a rude dirtbag anyhow not bothered and pretty much expected that he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to stand up and be a man and make cogent argument at a WPC meeting. Much easier to cower in threads than make accusations about a person face to face in real time. Pretty cowardly but not suprising at all.

Trying to figure out where the Hardware aspect of this thread is, any mods care to explain that?

You all run profitable businesses and should all act proffesionally.

I dont think it reflects well on any of you to keep up this childish bickering in each others threads.

Makes me want to act like the school teacher, seperate you all and make you all stand in seperate corners (or stay in your own threads)

The above is OFF TOPIC Bicknellsky
Let us get back on topic please.
Bicknellsky I can not see a single line answering my questions.
Let us keep good manes. There are a plenty of other places to bash against each other.
AGAIN
Is there someone else involved in the WASP project who could give us a clue except you Bicknellsky? It is obvious that you are refusing to communicate ad give the answers. The questions are as follows:

1.   What is WASP involvement with AMT – Josh Zipkin
2.   What is Bicknellsky personal involvement with Josh Zipkin
3.   Why Bicknellsky is so keen to cooperate and defend 1000% proven AMT scam
I am asking this because Bicknellsky is your project leader as far as I know. I am wandering if he is acting in behalf of all of you involved in WASP. In case Bicknellsky is acting as a person not representing WASP project, you do not need to answer to all of the above questions. Otherwise me and community would very much to hear what is going on


Thank you very much in advance

Off topic begins
It is not fare to open new Self Moderated thread Techbobit fucks us over again That is not something that a gentlemen would do. We can see only your opinion there.
Take me for example my thread AMT fucks us over again is not self moderated and it does not have even one post deleted/censured. Both you and AMT are welcomed there
Off topic ends

You just made a joke of yourself today , BICK.
Small hater

So you are also racist

On topic.

WPC has invited both these fools to the meetings months ago they didn't bother to respond to the invite. Just like Josh Zerlan didn't. BCP didn't.

You want answers come to the meeting. Just set it up with Beastlymac he will get you squared away. Again like I said I doubt Marto74 is going to accept and I most definitely sure Loshia won't accept.

Back to ignoring both of them.

Note: I will be emailing the WPC members this if they haven't seen it.

We don't even know what this is. They make boards..

What's really stupid though if this arguement is between two board developers - that are not finding a way to work together if possible.

Collaboration is the only thing will save all of us from the Chinese.


But loshia is just like poor rock in the ocean client, just go with the waves for as long as he can until he either sinks or washes up completely. And then,  he'll run out of money one day.

But really this is diversion tactic created by Loshia to try associate AMT with WASP -

BECAUSE LOSHIA IS MARTO'S FORUM RESEARCH BITCH AND DOES THIS CRAP FREE FOR SOME SORT ACCEPTANCE BECAUSE HE HAS NO FRIENDS.

 - We did it to him last week with the mining technologies, he went right for it. Hilarious.

 Or we made him think we doing it, and then think that mining technologies is not us..... hmmm

loshia, i don't believe it.
AMT_cannibal_miners just confirm to be part of WASP project.

It's actually possible that Loshia is just one of those "wanna be mafia bulgarians". They talk, act and dress the part but are harmless a three year old. Its a syndrom, kinda like how preteens were in love with Justin beiber for a week.. But bulgarian guys between 18 and 22 go through this phrase.. its weird. blue jeans, black t-shirt, shaved head, black velcro shoes. Go to any nightclub in sofia and you'll see 50 of them, like copies.

Loshia dislikes us because when Loshia approached Technobit to make miners, Technobit was kind of like not so turned on about it. But when we did Technobit saw potential, it was due to that potential that Technobit has had an "upper hand" on a few occasions, and they have returned the favors in kind. Strictly business, but Marto's actually a decent guy, stubborn as fuck, but ok  for this industry. And he'll never screw people over. Too much.

So yea, Loshia is a joke. Not one of those Haha funny jokes, but one of those jokes that you just look at and feel sorry for. And he's a young guy. See while most guys from BG are on the Black sea now spending their summers  hitting all that "oh so fine tail" because trust us there are few great things about BG and the women are simply the best.   Loshia may have problems with women, so even though he mines all these bitcoins and has a decent amount of money for that society.. he still cant manage to really "adapt" to his own kind, and get laid.

So he sits here every day on the forum, talking trash on other people because hes bored. He has coffees with marto once a week and gives him all the updates he can on everything going on with the forum because Marto really doesn't have time to do it himself with all the boards they're pulling out.

In so many words. Loshia is not just a good client, he's Marto's free forum research bitch. And that's the truth. But again, its a new market that is coming around the corner and everyone is going need all the friends they can get.

And Loshia, if you don't stop talking crap names about us on forum, we going to have to give our a friends in sofia a call.

Bicknellsky,
I have asked to be polite and stay on topic. More over my post was immediately deleted from WASP thread by you. And you are giving no answers to questions asked. You can open new thread if you like and ASK everything about me. I will answer you nice and politely. I am asking once again.
Will someone else from WASP team explain what is going on with your project? Is Bicknellsky only one involved here?

1. Who is Josh Zipkin?
2. Who is Josh Zipkin?
3. Who is cooperating with AMT?

Let us get to the reality.

Why is Loshia spamming me in every thread? I suspect it is because Marto74 who has on many occasion failed to compensate people adequately Loshia feels the need to stir the pot because he doesn't want to people to dig any deeper into his bosses history.

Again any accusations you have bring it to the WPC meeting this Saturday Loshia. We would LOVE to hear your theories and we can answer all your questions. Like last time you won't come. You will hide and ignore that you have been invited. Just like your boss Marto74 has done for months hiding behind his "record". It gets really tiresome you playing these silly games. You want a resolution with the me and the WPC on the record come to the meeting.

I am pretty sure that a few of the Members who are still owed money by Marto74 would love to ask him why he has failed to pay them back.

Hello WASP members and participants.
My post was just deleted from official WASP thread. So i am asking again opening new topic

I would appreciate if someone explains to community following:

1.   What is WASP involvement with AMT – Josh Zipkin
2.   What is Bicknellsky personal involvement with Josh Zipkin
3.   Why Bicknellsky is so keen to cooperate and defend 1000% proven AMT scam
I am asking this because Bicknellsky is your project leader as far as I know. I am wandering if he is acting in behalf of all of you involved in WASP. In case Bicknellsky is acting as a person not representing WASP project, you do not need to answer to all of the above questions. Otherwise me and community would like very much to hear what is going on


Thank you very much in advance

PS: Let us keep good manners and stay on topic