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Topic: To everyone converting BTC to ETH - page 6. (Read 8870 times)

legendary
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May 25, 2016, 12:23:29 PM
#46
I believe a huge chunk of people who went to ETH are trading, because we all know ETH volumes are crazy nowadays. Besides, there's no harm in splitting your eggs in a few baskets, not just one.

ethereum is good for one thing and one thing only, and that is if you can buy it at the bottom when the price is low before the pump and dump it as soon as you see the top without any hesitation. otherwise you will only lose money by holding it any longer.
legendary
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Next-Gen Trade Racing Metaverse
May 25, 2016, 12:17:15 PM
#45
I believe a huge chunk of people who went to ETH are trading, because we all know ETH volumes are crazy nowadays. Besides, there's no harm in splitting your eggs in a few baskets, not just one.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
May 25, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
#44
Well i don't think ETH has any comparison with true invention because they are some huge whales are controlling the current price of ETH and soon it will get failed, Bitcoin has more brighter future and it has more bigger community than any other crypto currency so that i will avoid to make any investment into ETH.
legendary
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The revolution will be digital
May 25, 2016, 11:59:27 AM
#43
I just recognized another similarity of ETH with NXT...

NXT offered Decentralized Asset Exchange (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-decentralized-asset-exchange-discussion-thread-460343)

ETH is offering Decentralized Autonomous Organization (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndcodco-decentralized-co-op-1365958)

#WarOfBuzzwords
newbie
Activity: 44
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May 13, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
#42
all ipo/ico coins will fail.mark my words.
Seems true. Ether wont most likely go over $20 before 2020.
legendary
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Join The Blockchain Revolution In Logistics
April 15, 2016, 02:25:50 PM
#41
so NXT, BTS, ETH, LISK, iota, MAID etc ...
all ipo/ico coins will fail.mark my words.

the MAN has spoke
hero member
Activity: 1568
Merit: 507
April 15, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
#40
all ipo/ico coins will fail.mark my words.
newbie
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April 15, 2016, 06:53:13 AM
#39
meanwhile, if you want to check all the new Nxt features, take a look at this lite wallet client:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAh7kFcHTHk&index=6&list=PLrOqCck6qd3aD39swhdYBPW8bRGrP4Mjs
newbie
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April 15, 2016, 06:39:03 AM
#38
If you want to become a Nxt Core developer just join the forum an speak out loud https://nxtforum.org/core-development/

Well, if you want to compare NXT with ETH, then compare this:

NXT repo:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/overview
6,446 commits

ETH repos:
https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum
11,974 commits, 14 releases, 70 contributors.

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum
6,984 commits, 80 releases, 63 contributors

And the above ETH stats are just for 2 of the many Ethereum projects.

Edit: I fixed the numbers, as I refered to the wrong repo.
legendary
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Join The Blockchain Revolution In Logistics
April 15, 2016, 04:02:22 AM
#37
Read a little about history of NXT, while jumping ship to ETH as a store of value. Compare the following two graphs...
a. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#charts
b. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/#charts
Seems you were correct. How did you make such a near-exact prediction?

history tends to repeat.
ETH is going to run the course of NXT but likely retain x10 the amount of Capital.

What is more important is that Poloniex is the #1 exchange by volume today.
Reason ETH.

In time the core BTC/fiat exchanges will reclaim top volume ranks, but they have lost face, and BTC has fallen.
ETH challenged BTC and won.  BTC is now destined for a long slow fall from grace.  The BTC maximialist have lost.

You are looking at a future world where 4-5 coins fight for top daily volume, there will be a hot / cold market cycle from one to the next.

Yes ETH is a bubble.  But it is on the stage and not going away.  

sr. member
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April 14, 2016, 05:13:09 PM
#36
No coin, let alone bitcoin, knows its cost of production. An individual node/miner is always unaware of it, because a bitcoin network can not independently determine any FIAT representation. Hence, built in anti bubble algorithm is a fallacy.
It doesn't represent fiat, but it somewhat expresses its electricity costs. PoW works as transport of value, it destroys X value in electricity and produces Y value in bitcoin, if by 'knowledge' we mean that information outside of the system is imported  into the system, then yes it has it, to some degree. Of course this is not predictive or very accurate knowledge. Bitcoin is a system designed to increase the hashpower behind the network, and consequently its value, the problem is when the users become separated from miners (pools and ASICs). If the initial Satoshi's assumption would have been correct, this would be the anti-bubble algo, just because the userbase would increase proportionally with network hashpower, yet this balance was soon destroyed by pools and ASICs. The anti-bubble algorithm (bubbles form because exchange value exceeds power of costs + artificial scarcity) of course can't know what exactly should the value be, because of the inherent speculative moment of artificial scarcity, yet it knows the costs and it can distribute them.
full member
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April 14, 2016, 03:37:57 PM
#35
If the ETH boys were truly serious about making it in the long term they would've built an anti bubble algorithm into the code base.
Not possible. Because, none of the coins 'know' its value. So, the coin network is always unaware of the bubble/burst.
It is possible, Bitcoin 'knows' how much value it requires to produce a new bitcoin, its just made in the way that this value is lost to competition.
How does it 'know'? Care to explain?
It 'knows' its bottom limit, as its costs of production. The problem is that it is very inefficient (economically) as seen in Bitcoin.
No coin, let alone bitcoin, knows its cost of production. An individual node/miner is always unaware of it, because a bitcoin network can not independently determine any FIAT representation. Hence, built in anti bubble algorithm is a fallacy.
sr. member
Activity: 432
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April 14, 2016, 09:42:37 AM
#34
If the ETH boys were truly serious about making it in the long term they would've built an anti bubble algorithm into the code base.
Not possible. Because, none of the coins 'know' its value. So, the coin network is always unaware of the bubble/burst.
It is possible, Bitcoin 'knows' how much value it requires to produce a new bitcoin, its just made in the way that this value is lost to competition.
How does it 'know'? Care to explain?
It 'knows' its bottom limit, as its costs of production. The problem is that it is very inefficient (economically) as seen in Bitcoin.
The cost of production makes it unreasonable to sell below production prices, however because the costs need to be paid, miners can't wait forever and need to sell to stay in buisness. This weeds out the small miners that haven't got enough capital to survive the volatility and centralizes mining, but this is a side effect of a mechanism that is supposed to prevent big price dumps (the competition for the money supply that is generated inelastically). When mining is centralized price dumps can become another mechanism of creating a monopoly, if you have the best conditions (low costs and more capital) your best move is to drop profits to the minimum by tanking the price, so nobody except you can compete, and once you've destroyed the competition you just pump again.
legendary
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BTC price road to $80k
April 14, 2016, 08:53:23 AM
#33
Its impossible  right now to convert bitcoin into ethereum the price is going back again to high.. and i think i will stay on bitcoin because the price of bitcoin is very stable right now.. also the altcoin cbx and this is the month for release of their project..
legendary
Activity: 1134
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BTC to the moon is inevitable...
April 14, 2016, 07:55:27 AM
#32
Read a little about history of NXT, while jumping ship to ETH as a store of value. Compare the following two graphs...

a. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#charts

b. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/#charts

Compare the following facts...

i. NXT was backed by a centralized organization, just like ETH.

ii. NXT was PoS, just like ETH will ultimately be.

iii. NXT offered asset exchange, while ETH offers smart contract. Both of these functionality, which they claim to make them unique, are actually possible on bitcoin blockchain, which is far more secure.

iv. With price rise, NXT backers sold their holding to increase liquidity in the market. With price rise, ETH backers are increasing ETH supply in the market to increase liquidity in the market.

p.s. Alt coin trading is a gambling. If u wanna test your luck on some coin under pump, its fine. But, make sure to come back to BTC, when u have made enough, otherwise u'll lose all and have to be a mute spectator while the next alt wave hits. GooD Luck Wink

this is a great topic, i totally agree. although i don't like to think of trading as a gamble because it is not just luck it can be predictable. for example the rise of ETH became clear at some point when everybody was getting hyped up just as the dump was so clear as the initial holders started unloading their holdings at top price.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 255
April 14, 2016, 07:13:45 AM
#31
Read a little about history of NXT, while jumping ship to ETH as a store of value. Compare the following two graphs...

a. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#charts

b. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/#charts
Seems you were correct. How did you make such a near-exact prediction?
full member
Activity: 243
Merit: 100
March 18, 2016, 07:37:32 AM
#30
If the ETH boys were truly serious about making it in the long term they would've built an anti bubble algorithm into the code base.
Not possible. Because, none of the coins 'know' its value. So, the coin network is always unaware of the bubble/burst.
It is possible, Bitcoin 'knows' how much value it requires to produce a new bitcoin, its just made in the way that this value is lost to competition.
How does it 'know'? Care to explain?
sr. member
Activity: 432
Merit: 251
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March 12, 2016, 05:48:16 AM
#29
If the ETH boys were truly serious about making it in the long term they would've built an anti bubble algorithm into the code base.
Not possible. Because, none of the coins 'know' its value. So, the coin network is always unaware of the bubble/burst.
It is possible, Bitcoin 'knows' how much value it requires to produce a new bitcoin, its just made in the way that this value is lost to competition.
full member
Activity: 243
Merit: 100
March 07, 2016, 10:02:54 AM
#28
If the ETH boys were truly serious about making it in the long term they would've built an anti bubble algorithm into the code base.
Not possible. Because, none of the coins 'know' its value. So, the coin network is always unaware of the bubble/burst.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3014
Welt Am Draht
March 07, 2016, 08:55:03 AM
#27
If the ETH boys were truly serious about making it in the long term they would've built an anti bubble algorithm into the code base.
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