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Quote from: BossMacko on May 13, 2016, 08:35:09 AM

hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble

best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers

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Quote from: mirakal on November 24, 2016, 03:15:14 AM

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Quote from: Text on November 23, 2016, 09:25:53 PM

We can't abolish the HYIP sites and other ponzi scheme because they are already part of the internet. Some people tend to fool others in the web for their own good. They are very anonymous so we can't really trace them, what we can all do is to avoid them. It is better to hold your coins and continue saving...

Investing isn't investing in HYIPs. Obviously HYIPs are all ponzis and investing in ponzis are the worst thing you can do and you can probably get a better ROI when you gamble at a provably fair casino than with a HYIP.

If you are investing in bitcoin startups though, I think it is definitely a good idea.

That's a sign of stupidity and desperation. People should not fall trap for HYIP, and it's not healthy in the economy of bitcoin to promote that kind of scam investment. Only newbie will fall on that trap and technically it's not call investment but a scam.

If anyone thinks logically that how one can give up to 10% or more interest in a single day, then they will not go to these kinds of sites to invest their hard earned money. They do not have any working model but just to take money from you and give it to others for some time until they reach their target deposits and finally close the shop and come up with another new site. Never invest on this site and lose your money.

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Quote from: Yuuto on November 24, 2016, 02:23:22 AM

Quote from: Text on November 23, 2016, 09:25:53 PM

We can't abolish the HYIP sites and other ponzi scheme because they are already part of the internet. Some people tend to fool others in the web for their own good. They are very anonymous so we can't really trace them, what we can all do is to avoid them. It is better to hold your coins and continue saving...

Investing isn't investing in HYIPs. Obviously HYIPs are all ponzis and investing in ponzis are the worst thing you can do and you can probably get a better ROI when you gamble at a provably fair casino than with a HYIP.

If you are investing in bitcoin startups though, I think it is definitely a good idea.

That's a sign of stupidity and desperation. People should not fall trap for HYIP, and it's not healthy in the economy of bitcoin to promote that kind of scam investment. Only newbie will fall on that trap and technically it's not call investment but a scam.

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Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

There are many Ponzi scheme sites which are quite similar. If you join them quickly and you leave before they break down, you will probably make some profit. On the other hand you are supporting an illegal business and you can lose eveyrthing, if you dont run away in time...

Those advice its wrong, soo you wanna support scammers, as long you able to roi you dont care about others investments. If people stop invest to try get profit those scam projects will die at once. The ammount that people had losted at gamble if they had invested they would be more happy for sure.

That's ridiculous, as long as there are people who are supporting those ponzi scheme sites they will not be gone. And it tends that you are just putting your sympathy for them. Even you have that point of view leaving them earlier still that is not recommendable. Why not invest into some other trusted and reputable investments such as trading or just totally hold your bitcoin.

people think they can beat the system that is why they keep trying, and also a big part of it is because they are greedy and think if they do things like investing as fast as possible they can make a lot of money this way but they forget the first thing about these sites: they are scams and a scam means they plan on taking your money and not pay you back.

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Quote from: Text on November 23, 2016, 09:25:53 PM

We can't abolish the HYIP sites and other ponzi scheme because they are already part of the internet. Some people tend to fool others in the web for their own good. They are very anonymous so we can't really trace them, what we can all do is to avoid them. It is better to hold your coins and continue saving...

Investing isn't investing in HYIPs. Obviously HYIPs are all ponzis and investing in ponzis are the worst thing you can do and you can probably get a better ROI when you gamble at a provably fair casino than with a HYIP.

If you are investing in bitcoin startups though, I think it is definitely a good idea.

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We can't abolish the HYIP sites and other ponzi scheme because they are already part of the internet. Some people tend to fool others in the web for their own good. They are very anonymous so we can't really trace them, what we can all do is to avoid them. It is better to hold your coins and continue saving...

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Quote from: mastica on November 23, 2016, 06:17:49 PM

Quote from: OshiHugo on November 23, 2016, 04:11:30 PM

Quote from: Caladonian on November 22, 2016, 11:30:52 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

There are many Ponzi scheme sites which are quite similar. If you join them quickly and you leave before they break down, you will probably make some profit. On the other hand you are supporting an illegal business and you can lose eveyrthing, if you dont run away in time...

Those advice its wrong, soo you wanna support scammers, as long you able to roi you dont care about others investments. If people stop invest to try get profit those scam projects will die at once. The ammount that people had losted at gamble if they had invested they would be more happy for sure.

That's ridiculous, as long as there are people who are supporting those ponzi scheme sites they will not be gone. And it tends that you are just putting your sympathy for them. Even you have that point of view leaving them earlier still that is not recommendable. Why not invest into some other trusted and reputable investments such as trading or just totally hold your bitcoin.

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Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

i agree with you because in internet, if the investment is become to scam for people, then its hard to know the real address of the owner of investment. but if we can minimalize the risk, then i think its really worth to try to make invest. but as always, be careful and make your own research by reading many news related with investment programs.

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Quote from: OshiHugo on November 23, 2016, 04:11:30 PM

Quote from: Caladonian on November 22, 2016, 11:30:52 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

There are many Ponzi scheme sites which are quite similar. If you join them quickly and you leave before they break down, you will probably make some profit. On the other hand you are supporting an illegal business and you can lose eveyrthing, if you dont run away in time...

Those advice its wrong, soo you wanna support scammers, as long you able to roi you dont care about others investments. If people stop invest to try get profit those scam projects will die at once. The ammount that people had losted at gamble if they had invested they would be more happy for sure.

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Quote from: Caladonian on November 22, 2016, 11:30:52 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

There are many Ponzi scheme sites which are quite similar. If you join them quickly and you leave before they break down, you will probably make some profit. On the other hand you are supporting an illegal business and you can lose eveyrthing, if you dont run away in time...

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 22, 2016, 11:50:42 PM

Quote from: Caladonian on November 22, 2016, 11:30:52 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

So you are talking about HYIP's man? Because you use the word 'first' and most of the people who are investing in HYIP's are taking in the queue and wants to be the first one to invest there. So that they will be secured, but I don't think that's an effective way of investing. Better if you are going to trust those gambling / casino's that are looking for more investors but chose the ones who are already in the league in the long run.

I think only 2 or 3 sites are giving good profit since last few months, But I don't know when these sites will go down. So investing on casino sites is a risk, We have to put huge money to make a profit, suppose if the site went down we can't do anything it's a big loss for us. But gambling is not like that instant result you may win or lose. Choose which is better for you.

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Quote from: Caladonian on November 22, 2016, 11:30:52 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

So you are talking about HYIP's man? Because you use the word 'first' and most of the people who are investing in HYIP's are taking in the queue and wants to be the first one to invest there. So that they will be secured, but I don't think that's an effective way of investing. Better if you are going to trust those gambling / casino's that are looking for more investors but chose the ones who are already in the league in the long run.

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Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it.

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We always heard that it is very hard to win against the house due to the house edge and i truly believe in that. And in math, people already have calculated that gambling always give you negative expected values, so you tend to lose than to gain. That is why investment is a better choice for me.

But tell me one investment that has no risks ? I think there none investments as such.
Now you might say that investments have less risks while gambling have high risks, right ? Then gamble at low odds and it becomes an investment I think.

Yeah, there is no investment that doesn't have risk as most of them has risk and we don't have an assurance if we invest into bankroll casino's or other types of investments if we are going to get profit as usual. But of course if you are sick of letting your money burn and the house always win, then that's the right time to try something else such as investment.

Yeah both gambling and investment have risks but it's better to lose some money in investing rather than if you play in gambling.. because you know you still have a way to catch up with your loses in investment.. not in gambling, the consistency of losing is more favorable in the long run.

To me it is depending on the interest of the people, if one person is interested in gambling and having some experience and skill of gambling then he can make money in gambling, and those people who have good knowledge of trading they can earn money in trading, so different people have different choice.

We not talking about trading but I understand what you say when you speak about peoples interests. It is true. Though only betting you could make money in the long run, not with gambling. You cannot be good or bad at gambling you can only be lucky or unluck that is all. Foolishness to believe otherwise. Investing in a casino will bring in a profit. Gambling is a maybe and also can you stop when you gamble ? When you make 2x what you had do you keep going ? These things never happen with investing. You take your 50% share of the house edge vs your total investment and you walk away happy. You 0an still gamble it is not a problem but do not think of it as a way to make money. Gambling is a chance to get lucky. Your chance is as good as the next. Remember the winners of lotto draws also thought they would never win and if they had not gambled they would never have won. So you see a double edged sword. I think its best to think of gambling as something you try your luck at with a bit of money and the aim is not to profit but just try your luck.

If you look at Betcoin.ag they have live sports betting that can take skill and some luck. That you can use as a betting investment.

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Quote from: hua_hui on November 22, 2016, 09:39:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

Everywhere problems are there for that you can't just simply runway with a problem instead should find ways to come out of it. I do agree many scammers are around in online to cheat people, but at the same time, you can find many good trusted sites as well. So we should find those good sites to invest and diversify your funds to reduce these risks.

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Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment..

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Quote from: uneng on November 22, 2016, 09:04:18 PM

Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

The risk is always there in investment, however you can reduce your risk while increasing your chances of making profit by making a complete study and I would recommend that instead of gambling which obviously would not do good for us, why not invest in reputable gambling sites.

As long as you will diversify your investment you will be fine...

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Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.

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Quote from: shulio on November 22, 2016, 02:02:31 PM

Quote from: wuvdoll on November 22, 2016, 11:58:58 AM

if one person is interested in gambling and having some experience and skill of gambling then he can make money in gambling

That is just plain stupid if you think that in gambling it totally require your skill. It requires luck and luck is not something that you could easily get so it is just plain worthless to think that wehnever you have a good knowledge about what to do in gambling then you will ended up getting some profit

And not just for having SOME experience and SOME skill but you need to totally have those for real. Because if you are just having that for SOME reasons.

Then gambling will not be productive to you, instead why not try to purse investments just like trading and bankroll casino's.

And don't always think that gambling will give you profit but the house edge is thinking that way, that from its gamblers they will get their profit.

We can tell if we have a chance to win in gambling if we are just being honest with ourselves, but if not then we have to accept it and move on to the next investment, putting our money in a bankroll of casino is a no-brainer as we know how already how profitable a gambling sites in overall.

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Quote from: shulio on November 22, 2016, 02:02:31 PM

Quote from: wuvdoll on November 22, 2016, 11:58:58 AM

if one person is interested in gambling and having some experience and skill of gambling then he can make money in gambling

That is just plain stupid if you think that in gambling it totally require your skill. It requires luck and luck is not something that you could easily get so it is just plain worthless to think that wehnever you have a good knowledge about what to do in gambling then you will ended up getting some profit

And not just for having SOME experience and SOME skill but you need to totally have those for real. Because if you are just having that for SOME reasons.

Then gambling will not be productive to you, instead why not try to purse investments just like trading and bankroll casino's.

And don't always think that gambling will give you profit but the house edge is thinking that way, that from its gamblers they will get their profit.

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