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Quote from: BCEmporium on July 31, 2014, 06:39:28 AM

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And no, Islam isn't "just as violent", others have violent behaviors, but Islam is violent from its doctrine up. The only place Islam should have by now was in Hollywood for a couple of movies, like the Greek or Nordic ancient religions.

Well, Sayyd Qutb would likely agree with you....

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@trans4mist ,

Yes it is. If you want to say shit like

"That priest is molesting a child, look how bad Christianity is" you make no sense at all! You are comparing the incomparable! Under Islam not only the Mullah can molest children as it isn't even forbidden and most likely the child will be killed if complaint.

@valvalis ,

How many times do I need to say: FUCK TERRORISM! Terrorism is the least of Islam problems!

@transient858,

Do you live in XV Century? Or I BC? No! So just because 5 centuries ago Christianity was way worse than Islam doesn't justify anything for today.
And no, Islam isn't "just as violent", others have violent behaviors, but Islam is violent from its doctrine up. The only place Islam should have by now was in Hollywood for a couple of movies, like the Greek or Nordic ancient religions.

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If you study history, you will know Islam is just as violent as any other religions out there.

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If you only judge Islam through terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, then you are really wrong. We were never taught that way, not Islam which teaches them but people who are not responsible, who taught them. Their sense of fanatical excess of Islam that has made them forget and finally take action is never justified in the Quran.

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but Medieval Christianity is not killing people today

Pay this page a visit and then come back to me to tell me Islam is worse: https://www.facebook.com/EvidenceofHarmbyReligion

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Quote from: trans4mist on July 30, 2014, 06:08:08 PM

If all religions preach peace then why aren't their extremist extremely peaceful?

Islam seems worse to you because you were probably raised to a Christian culture, I suppose to Islam followers Christianity is more extreme and so on. Truth is you are all crazy so stop searching for who is crazier, lol.

Cultural relativism has boundaries!
Firstly I'm not Christian to fall into that non-sense of "my imaginary friend is better than yours", let's leave that aside. Right?

If I was unlucky to born under Islam I probably would think kill people is justifiable if they don't preach Allah or whatsoever and probably would be studying the Quran in a catatonic state as if that load of baloney was the ultimate truth on Earth. (For those without knowledge, the line of the horizon is the end of the World) But, no wonder! If everybody who doesn't do it gets to be killed... pretty much what would happen if I was born 2 or 3 centuries ago in Europe about Christianity.

The aim must be to spread the value of life, which is more or less of an universal value, except for Islam (and Medieval Christianity, but Medieval Christianity is not killing people today, Islam is), and Secular and Rational societies, so we don't need to find out who is crazier anymore. It doesn't also mean that crazy people will fade away magically, but at least we won't have societies with so many wackjobs that no asylum can host them.

For the rest of the crap, like if you want to pray with your ass up or under water or whatever, doesn't concern me. Also religions can have the right to be annoying, like Jehovah witnesses, but not to kill people or force them to their belief or impose the irrational religion-made laws.

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"...kinda depends on how you define terrorism/terrorists..."

Indeed.

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i don't know if i'd call it the religion that is so crazy.. it probably has more to do with the culture of arabs, on top of the fact that the west has gone into their territory and siphoned out so much of their natural resources without giving anything back.

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If all religions preach peace then why aren't their extremist extremely peaceful?

Islam seems worse to you because you were probably raised to a Christian culture, I suppose to Islam followers Christianity is more extreme and so on. Truth is you are all crazy so stop searching for who is crazier, lol.

Now, I get what the OP is trying to say in regards to people assuming that because one criticizes Islam one must be discriminating Muslims, some go as far as saying is a racial issue. I'm sorry but that's just madness and it's a strategy to brush off whatever criticism that is not in the religion's best interest. On that same note, I think the reason why the followers of these "religions" are so prompt to take it personally and get offended is because they have formed their identities around that set of beliefs. I've had a chance to observe Christians above all other cult followers and I have noticed often they put their beliefs even above their humanity... Like if you are to ask about their opinion on something, they'd answer something along the lines of "As a Christian I..." then you'd ask for their personal opinion and they'd say "Well, the Bible says..." so it would seem as if they have little sense of themselves outside the doctrine, I suppose that's why they take things personally when the cult is being questioned.

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Quote from: Traffic4u on July 30, 2014, 05:07:41 PM

Come and learn about islam, and maybe you will love islam.

I studied a lot about Islam and all I can say is that someone loving it has serious mental issues!
I don't need no bullshitting religion saying I'm the best or using ones ego against himself.

Btw: gambling is haram.

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Come and learn about islam, and maybe you will love islam.

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Quote from: Rannasha on July 30, 2014, 04:20:53 PM

All those religions are equally silly. Lets go and kill someone else because his imaginary friend is less kickass than your imaginary friend. Woohoo!

Or let's kill that evil atheist that has no imaginary friends!

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All those religions are equally silly. Lets go and kill someone else because his imaginary friend is less kickass than your imaginary friend. Woohoo!

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 30, 2014, 02:57:48 PM

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 30, 2014, 11:02:19 AM

Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 06:47:02 AM

The problem being is that a lot of posters on here associate Islam with terrorism, crazy when you consider only a very small minority of muslims are fanatics. It's become the status quo in the Western media to 'bash muslims'

Could it be the other way around maybe? A lot of islamists chose terrorism.
You are right, it is a very small minority. The vast majority must fight and eliminate the bad seeds within themselves. We are all real time witnesses.

There are plenty of muslims and Islamic organizations who denounce all forms of violence on a regular basis, just that their voices get drowned out by the crazies. Also kinda depends on how you define terrorism/terrorists, you could argue that suicide bombers attacking military targets would be an act of war rather than terrorism.

How about suicide bombers attacking little school girls on her way back home or to school? Act of war too? Hmm...

No, attacks against civvies would be classed as terrorism, much like the terror unleashed by Israel when they bombed the two UN schools in violation of international law.

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Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 01:37:45 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on July 30, 2014, 11:02:19 AM

Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 06:47:02 AM

The problem being is that a lot of posters on here associate Islam with terrorism, crazy when you consider only a very small minority of muslims are fanatics. It's become the status quo in the Western media to 'bash muslims'

Could it be the other way around maybe? A lot of islamists chose terrorism.
You are right, it is a very small minority. The vast majority must fight and eliminate the bad seeds within themselves. We are all real time witnesses.

There are plenty of muslims and Islamic organizations who denounce all forms of violence on a regular basis, just that their voices get drowned out by the crazies. Also kinda depends on how you define terrorism/terrorists, you could argue that suicide bombers attacking military targets would be an act of war rather than terrorism.

How about suicide bombers attacking little school girls on her way back home or to school? Act of war too? Hmm...

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Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 01:37:45 PM

There are plenty of muslims and Islamic organizations who denounce all forms of violence on a regular basis, just that their voices get drowned out by the crazies. Also kinda depends on how you define terrorism/terrorists, you could argue that suicide bombers attacking military targets would be an act of war rather than terrorism.

Actually there are none! Ask any of them to denounce the surah that compels Muslims to kill non-believers... oooops! They don't do it. Basically those associations are an attempt to try to lure westerns into a positive view of Islam, until they grow in number enough to overcome the society and submit everybody to either convert by force, pay jizya or die.

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 30, 2014, 11:02:19 AM

Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 06:47:02 AM

The problem being is that a lot of posters on here associate Islam with terrorism, crazy when you consider only a very small minority of muslims are fanatics. It's become the status quo in the Western media to 'bash muslims'

Could it be the other way around maybe? A lot of islamists chose terrorism.
You are right, it is a very small minority. The vast majority must fight and eliminate the bad seeds within themselves. We are all real time witnesses.

There are plenty of muslims and Islamic organizations who denounce all forms of violence on a regular basis, just that their voices get drowned out by the crazies. Also kinda depends on how you define terrorism/terrorists, you could argue that suicide bombers attacking military targets would be an act of war rather than terrorism.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on July 30, 2014, 07:14:53 AM

Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 06:47:02 AM

The problem being is that a lot of posters on here associate Islam with terrorism, crazy when you consider only a very small minority of muslims are fanatics. It's become the status quo in the Western media to 'bash muslims'

Screw terrorism! The issue there isn't about terrorism, it's about daily terrorism those people is suffering from due to crackpot-made laws.
Terrorism is just the only thing the west talks about because it's only thing that hits the west. 9/11? 5/11? That's NOTHING compared to a daily life under that wacked flag. And it's not a "very small minority", it's a majority of muslims who were brainwashed to think Islam is good, and even push to have Sharia, even if they don't know exactly why.

Take for an instance that last Pakistan case about Ahamaddya. It wasn't a muslim murder, it was a mob of them! If that mob was chasing and killed a guy caught red hand abusing a small girl, that would be somewhat ok, westerns would do the same, but no! That mob gathered about a shitty "blasphemy"... a mob!

An Israeli mob just gathered to chant “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza" all mass ideology is toxic

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 30, 2014, 11:02:19 AM

Quote from: newflesh on July 30, 2014, 06:47:02 AM

The problem being is that a lot of posters on here associate Islam with terrorism, crazy when you consider only a very small minority of muslims are fanatics. It's become the status quo in the Western media to 'bash muslims'

Could it be the other way around maybe? A lot of islamists chose terrorism.
You are right, it is a very small minority. The vast majority must fight and eliminate the bad seeds within themselves. We are all real time witnesses.

Terrorism is somewhat a false question. It's like saying we're just bothering with what may hit us, but life under Sharia is a constant terrorism-of-mind to them. Terrorism is a double faced spike, it's the most visible face of Islam in the West, but also a given reason for governments to run over your civil rights.

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 30, 2014, 10:59:06 AM

Quote from: BCEmporium on July 30, 2014, 10:49:43 AM

RodeoX:

I don't hate PEOPLE, but Islam is an ideology and ideologies aren't beyond criticism.

Yes. I do understand. There are people, who because of their Islam, would put us both to death for our lack of faith. It's hard to like that attitude. But I have also met a lot of very peaceful and kind Muslims who interpret things differently. I hate them all if there were only one Islam. lol

I know of lots of those "different muslims" and have some as friends. I don't aim at the people, as the people itself is suffering with Islam, no other people on earth can say to suffer more with Islam than Muslims, actually.

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