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Topic: To Hit or Not to Hit -BlackJack! (Read 1266 times)

legendary
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December 15, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
#25
Maybe a strange way to play it, and i know it doesn't make a difference,especially with virtual decks, but i hit or stand in regards on what cards were
drawn in games before the one i'm on that 16. If there was more high cards - i hit, and if there were more low's i stand.
It's a small difference statistically anyways , so imho , no reason to think about it too much.

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hero member
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December 15, 2015, 02:47:58 PM
#24
It is golden rule of Blackjack, never take another card if you hit 16. It is not real 'strategy' to do so but rather pure math and calculation.
As you know there is rule in Casinos that croupier can't pick another card beyond that limit too, and this rule is set not without good reason.

You must be forget the correct number, the golden rule is never hit when u get 17 or above, definitely not 16. just see wizard of odds BJ strategies.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 07:16:09 PM
#23
It is golden rule of Blackjack, never take another card if you hit 16. It is not real 'strategy' to do so but rather pure math and calculation.
As you know there is rule in Casinos that croupier can't pick another card beyond that limit too, and this rule is set not without good reason.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 07:10:46 PM
#22
You can't play Blackjack the same way you play it online in a casino. The way the odds are stacked are slightly different. You actually have better odds at the casino.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
#21
This is about 16 against a 10 or A.  Where I play they don't allow to surrender, so I have to hit or stay on a 16 against a 10 or A.

I've been hitting my 16s because others suggest you have the best odds hitting, but recently I read an article online, what he wrote made sense so now I'm a bit confused. He says to never hit on a 16 because if you hit on a 16 you'll win 25.23% of the time, bust 69.31% of the time, and push 5.46% of the time for a net loss of 44.08% of the time. If you stand on 16 you win 29.01% of the time, and lose 70.99% of the time for a net loss of 41.98%. So by standing on 16 instead of taking a hit, you cut your losses by 2.1%

What do you guys say?

The page http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/ shows the best action you can do in Blackjack. I don't have the knowledge to verify it, but according to it, you should hit if dealer stands on Soft 17 and you should stand if dealer hits on soft 17.

Wizardofodds does a great job of breaking down the odds for every Casino game.  The thing with Blackjack is that there are many variations of the rules which gives different advantages to the House and the player.

My personal rule is that for each session I sit down for Blackjack I will hit every time I see 6 vs 7/8/9/10/A or stay every time I see the Dealer showing a higher card. If you switch back and forth between hitting or staying, you will cause more detriment to your bankroll.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 04:34:27 PM
#20
if its an ace I for sure hit no other way around it. If its a 10 you
can still hope for a bust if he has 6 or less down low so I usually
stay if a 10 and cant surrender but I always hit if they have an ace'
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legendary
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December 13, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
#19
Blackjack is the game with some of the best (read: least worse) odds in the casino, but you have to play perfect strategy to get those odds.

Just take a chart and follow them. They have been made after calculating things over and over again. I do think it also depends on the number of decks that are being used to build the stack (the more decks, the lower the influence of having specific cards on the table).

Find a chart that matches your casinos rules and you should be fine.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
#18
This is about 16 against a 10 or A. Where I play they don't allow to surrender, so I have to hit or stay on a 16 against a 10 or A.
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Damn, really?  Where do you play black jack online?  If they don't allow you to play how you want too during a tough call like that I would just gamble somewhere else... Or possibly I may just be reading this all wrong...

But I always tend to hit on a 16, but truly depends on what the dealer has.  There is always certain instances and gut feelings you tend to notice, and you just have to follow your gut when playing black jack.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 03:15:54 PM
#17
i have seen so many bj strategy book says the correct step is to hit when u get 16, and dealer gets 10, but i tried it many times, at least over 10 times, mostly i lost the hand because of busted, or dealer got 19, 20, i think strategy book may be correct cause hitting only has a little higher chance to win, in this situation (we get 16 dealer gets 10)we are very unlucky.

Hitting on a 16 vs a 10 won't "make you win" but it is still "correct" because you will lose less doing that over time than if you stay every time. 16 vs. 10 in blackjack is a bad situation, the only way to make it good is to get into your time machine and go back in time and walk away from the table before making the bet.

In some gambling situations the least bad option is the best option, this is one of them.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
#16
Where did you find that article? because that doesn't match with any math I have seen before.

An important thing to realize is that when you have 16 and the dealer has 10 or ace, you are probably going to lose no matter what.

The actual odds depend on how many decks there are, and what the dealer will do on a soft 17, but I don't recall ever seeing any set of rules that makes standing in that situation better than hitting.
hero member
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December 13, 2015, 11:38:30 AM
#15
i have seen so many bj strategy book says the correct step is to hit when u get 16, and dealer gets 10, but i tried it many times, at least over 10 times, mostly i lost the hand because of busted, or dealer got 19, 20, i think strategy book may be correct cause hitting only has a little higher chance to win, in this situation (we get 16 dealer gets 10)we are very unlucky.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 09:18:42 AM
#14
If I was you I'd definitely hit it with 16! Considering the probability of the odds working in your favor are quite low but you can always take the chances for the game and it highly depends on the type of play you're used to .I always choose to play in full action blind folded if there is that option at all.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 09:10:50 AM
#13
This is about 16 against a 10 or A.  Where I play they don't allow to surrender, so I have to hit or stay on a 16 against a 10 or A.

I've been hitting my 16s because others suggest you have the best odds hitting, but recently I read an article online, what he wrote made sense so now I'm a bit confused. He says to never hit on a 16 because if you hit on a 16 you'll win 25.23% of the time, bust 69.31% of the time, and push 5.46% of the time for a net loss of 44.08% of the time. If you stand on 16 you win 29.01% of the time, and lose 70.99% of the time for a net loss of 41.98%. So by standing on 16 instead of taking a hit, you cut your losses by 2.1%

What do you guys say?

It is a hard to decide between to hit or not hit in this situation, I my self prefer to not hit since 16 is already good number on blackjack. Just hope that the banker have a bad card and busted Smiley
Not to hit when you get 16 will give you more chance, because when you have 16 and decide to hit you will be busted (mostly)
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
#12
Whatever you do, do it consistently - that way you won't second-guess yourself if you hit (or don't) and it doesn't work in your favor!

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December 13, 2015, 08:47:26 AM
#11
I always hit on 16 myself. According to what you wrote though with a 2.1% difference it would seem the better play is to stand

Actually 16 is already a good card and hope banker will busted. But so far as I can say when I stand on 16 banker will make around 18 or more it is seldom to have them busted. I dont even know how can that be possible because this is gambling and they should be lucky enough right with everytime 16 beaten by banker
if you play like that you will get blow in blackjack.. just hope banker busted and your cards point less than 19 at least i would stay to not hit a card when my cards point 17
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 04:40:22 AM
#10
This is about 16 against a 10 or A.  Where I play they don't allow to surrender, so I have to hit or stay on a 16 against a 10 or A.

I've been hitting my 16s because others suggest you have the best odds hitting, but recently I read an article online, what he wrote made sense so now I'm a bit confused. He says to never hit on a 16 because if you hit on a 16 you'll win 25.23% of the time, bust 69.31% of the time, and push 5.46% of the time for a net loss of 44.08% of the time. If you stand on 16 you win 29.01% of the time, and lose 70.99% of the time for a net loss of 41.98%. So by standing on 16 instead of taking a hit, you cut your losses by 2.1%

What do you guys say?
this is very difficult situations because if you hit your card it possible to get busted and banker win and if you stand banker also have bigger chance than you to win the bet because 10 or A it's a good card when you playing blackjack but i personally will take my own risk and will hit if i got 16 in my cards
sr. member
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December 13, 2015, 03:56:04 AM
#9
This is about 16 against a 10 or A.  Where I play they don't allow to surrender, so I have to hit or stay on a 16 against a 10 or A.

I've been hitting my 16s because others suggest you have the best odds hitting, but recently I read an article online, what he wrote made sense so now I'm a bit confused. He says to never hit on a 16 because if you hit on a 16 you'll win 25.23% of the time, bust 69.31% of the time, and push 5.46% of the time for a net loss of 44.08% of the time. If you stand on 16 you win 29.01% of the time, and lose 70.99% of the time for a net loss of 41.98%. So by standing on 16 instead of taking a hit, you cut your losses by 2.1%

What do you guys say?

For me if i got 16 against a 10 or A i alway stand, because the dealer maybe can get 2-6 even small chance. My tips for blackjack if dealer have 5/6 in the first card we can stand if  we have 12/13/14/15.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 03:44:57 AM
#8
I always hit on 16 myself. According to what you wrote though with a 2.1% difference it would seem the better play is to stand

Actually 16 is already a good card and hope banker will busted. But so far as I can say when I stand on 16 banker will make around 18 or more it is seldom to have them busted. I dont even know how can that be possible because this is gambling and they should be lucky enough right with everytime 16 beaten by banker
sr. member
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December 13, 2015, 01:14:57 AM
#7
Ive already played in the realcasino and therefore i would say u never take a Card more than 16.
I also would not do an insurance if the Bank has an A or 10. Its not so usefull liek you first believe.

There is also a big chance for the Banka fter getting the Aor the 10 for an overbuy and your rescued with your 16 Wink
Hope my tactics will make you rich Smiley Iam glad over Tips Cheesy

regards
lama-hunter
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 01:12:38 AM
#6
as BicMac pointed it out it is always according to the casino soft 17 rule to hit or stay
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