To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
Thanks for your reply. It makes sense. Maybe you are right but if we look at your offer, it was not like OP has to do things. You were responsible to do everything according to your offer. All the details you are talking about regarding listing on coingecko are available on the internet. So, basically, you sold all of them? Or what was the deal? If you just directed how to do which is available on coingecko itself even, what was your part with coingecko in the deal? 
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Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
That doesn't matter as long as he is right about the accusation. Is it true that you couldn't provide coingecko, cmc listing? If that's true, you have broken a contract and deserve a big red flag. Please share the information exactly here. Otherwise, you are not going to help yourself. - Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
1. Please look at the offer:
2. To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
The offer also said you will ensure coingecko listing after 24 hours your exchange list them? Where's coingecko? Why didn't you list them on coingecko?2. To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
That doesn't matter as long as he is right about the accusation. Is it true that you couldn't provide coingecko, cmc listing? If that's true, you have broken a contract and deserve a big red flag. Please share the information exactly here. Otherwise, you are not going to help yourself. - Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
1. Please look at the offer:
2. To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
The offer also said you will ensure coingecko listing after 24 hours your exchange list them? Where's coingecko? Why didn't you list them on coingecko? 2. To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
I have to praise the reaction to restore their trading pairs. it is much better than blackmailing and responding negatively
you still haven't given me clear answers. If you promise them listing on CMC, CoinGecko and whatever, have you done that part of the deal?
no, you don't need to fix their infrastructure, but you should pay attention when accepting similar projects. acceptance of everything only degrades the quality of your service, I guess now you understand why some projects will never come to a bigger exchange, even if they want to pay.
Tons of hours were spent to provide them with agreed services. Everything was done from our side (trading, vol assistance, promotion, and guidance on what to do to pass trackers). Might be you think we should re-develop their web, find team members for them and do all other development staff. Appearing on trackers is mutual co-working. We did our part, they did not. So, what refund they are asking for now!
you still haven't given me clear answers. If you promise them listing on CMC, CoinGecko and whatever, have you done that part of the deal?
Might be you think we should re-develop their web, find team members for them and do all other development staff. Appearing on trackers is mutual co-working. We did our part, they did not. So, what refund they are asking for now!
no, you don't need to fix their infrastructure, but you should pay attention when accepting similar projects. acceptance of everything only degrades the quality of your service, I guess now you understand why some projects will never come to a bigger exchange, even if they want to pay.
1. Please look at the offer: https://ibb.co/LzkZMPd. It's clearly said "Listing on CMC after traction turning on." CMC has not yet enabled the traction. That's why we said it in the offer.
2. To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
3. Also, we instructed them how to get Etherscan update: https://ibb.co/JyKT5ZJ. Only token owners can submit such requests on Etherscan.
I have to praise the reaction to restore their trading pairs. it is much better than blackmailing and responding negatively
you still haven't given me clear answers. If you promise them listing on CMC, CoinGecko and whatever, have you done that part of the deal?
no, you don't need to fix their infrastructure, but you should pay attention when accepting similar projects. acceptance of everything only degrades the quality of your service, I guess now you understand why some projects will never come to a bigger exchange, even if they want to pay.
Tons of hours were spent to provide them with agreed services. Everything was done from our side (trading, vol assistance, promotion, and guidance on what to do to pass trackers). Might be you think we should re-develop their web, find team members for them and do all other development staff. Appearing on trackers is mutual co-working. We did our part, they did not. So, what refund they are asking for now!
you still haven't given me clear answers. If you promise them listing on CMC, CoinGecko and whatever, have you done that part of the deal?
Might be you think we should re-develop their web, find team members for them and do all other development staff. Appearing on trackers is mutual co-working. We did our part, they did not. So, what refund they are asking for now!
no, you don't need to fix their infrastructure, but you should pay attention when accepting similar projects. acceptance of everything only degrades the quality of your service, I guess now you understand why some projects will never come to a bigger exchange, even if they want to pay.
1. Where is the screenshot proving that we promised you to list your MATIC TOKEN on our exchange? The deal was about only your ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544.
https://i.ibb.co/MDPhHM4/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-47-25-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Response
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
After that on your blog, mentioning Matic and original contract address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81
https://i.ibb.co/F4XLTjv/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-59-35-Tokpie-Green-Exchange-is-SCAM-and-Grandpa-Green-Token-is-SCAM.png
Link on post: https://tokpie.io/blog/trade-green-exchange-token/
Read what is written! https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
That's not a promise to list your MATIC token on our exchange. That is an example showing you how the Matic token address can be added to the CG page.
2. Whare are any references on your website to the ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 that we listed as was agreed with you?
you may see that address there.
Clearly state on your website https://greencoin.online/ that your official token is ERC20 token: 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 and we restore your token trading.
Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.
Now, your web clearly refers to ERC20 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 so the trade was restored.
https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/GREEN-ETH/
https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/GREEN-WBTC/
https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/GREEN-USDT/
Don't try to use name "blackmail" and "fake accusation" of our ask to make 50% refund of your fail with:
CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, Etherscan
reject trading volume
and delisting token after that
After your web started to refer to the ERC20 token (that was agreed to list), the trade was restored.
Check the links:
https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/GREEN-ETH/
https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/GREEN-WBTC/
https://tokpie.com/view_exchange/GREEN-USDT/
That's not our fault that your project doesn't meet the tracker's requirements in full. From our side, everything was done to help you appear there. So we stop calling you blackmailer when you stop blaming us for all your troubles.
Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.
if we are already talking about blackmail, do you understand that this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58659962 is the most obvious form of blackmail and coming on your part?
is that really the way you run your business?
About accusations against Tokpie here, you BTCITA187 or whoever it represents here need to give some simple answers
Did you promise them all of this stuff like listing on CMC, CG etc... and you take money for that?
Do you have any refund policy, what if you do not meet all of these requirements?
Are you delisted their token much before the end of the contract date? If yes, it is quite legitimate to ask for part of the money back, because you did not deliver the complete service.
Tons of hours were spent to provide them with agreed services. Everything was done from our side (trading, vol assistance, promotion, and guidance on what to do to pass trackers). Might be you think we should re-develop their web, find team members for them and do all other development staff. Appearing on trackers is mutual co-working. We did our part, they did not. So, what refund they are asking for now!
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Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.
if we are already talking about blackmail, do you understand that this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58659962 is the most obvious form of blackmail and coming on your part?
is that really the way you run your business?
About accusations against Tokpie here, you BTCITA187 or whoever it represents here need to give some simple answers
Did you promise them all of this stuff like listing on CMC, CG etc... and you take money for that?
Do you have any refund policy, what if you do not meet all of these requirements?
Are you delisted their token much before the end of the contract date? If yes, it is quite legitimate to ask for part of the money back, because you did not deliver the complete service.
1. Where is the screenshot proving that we promised you to list your MATIC TOKEN on our exchange? The deal was about only your ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544.
https://i.ibb.co/MDPhHM4/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-47-25-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Response
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
After that on your blog, mentioning Matic and original contract address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81
https://i.ibb.co/F4XLTjv/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-59-35-Tokpie-Green-Exchange-is-SCAM-and-Grandpa-Green-Token-is-SCAM.png
Link on post: https://tokpie.io/blog/trade-green-exchange-token/
2. Whare are any references on your website to the ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 that we listed as was agreed with you?
you may see that address there.
Clearly state on your website https://greencoin.online/ that your official token is ERC20 token: 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 and we restore your token trading.
Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.
Don't try to use name "blackmail" and "fake accusation" of our ask to make 50% refund of your fail with:
CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, Etherscan
reject trading volume
and delisting token after that
Perfect! You confirm that your official token is a Matic token (absolutely different from the one that you listed on Tokpie). So, once again how can we continue to list your old (not supported) token? Moreover, how dare you ask a REFUND for the services that were provided for your ERC20 token and infiltrate us now with that thread.
You are not provided service! And know about Matic (and its absolutely different address) from the start, and mentioned on your blog - is not an argument.
Fact - you not provided CG, CMC, Etherscan.
Of course, we delist your token because you stopped mentioning your ERC20 token on your web.
Lie.
Its token ALIVE, man, and you can find places, where it mentioned. The reason why its not traded on eth, because of crazy commissions for gas in Ethereum. You trying abandon any ERC-20 token on Ethereum.
Its tradable and alive! And its not old!
You have captured different part of site, where token not mentioned, its not an argument to stop service.
You complete delist token - refund, please!
What's are you talking about. Nothing edited!
I provide both screenshots to see your deleted lines.
So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.
It's not ok!
Sir, sorry that I'm again trying to focus you on whole post. There is absolutely no arguments on each lie that we post and again generated new lie.
1. Where is the screenshot proving that we promised you to list your MATIC TOKEN on our exchange? The deal was about only your ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544.
2. Where are any references on your website to the ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 that we listed as was agreed with you?
Clearly state on your website https://greencoin.online/ that your official token is ERC20 token: 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 and we restore your token trading.
Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.
Perfect! You confirm that your official token is a Matic token (absolutely different from the one that you listed on Tokpie). So, once again how can we continue to list your old (not supported) token? Moreover, how dare you ask a REFUND for the services that were provided for your ERC20 token and infiltrate us now with that thread.
You are not provided service! And know about Matic (and its absolutely different address) from the start, and mentioned on your blog - is not an argument.
Fact - you not provided CG, CMC, Etherscan.
Of course, we delist your token because you stopped mentioning your ERC20 token on your web.
No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW
Lie.
Its token ALIVE, man, and you can find places, where it mentioned.
No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW - On the first screenshot, you provided you may see huge green button that follows to page, that entire related to token.
The reason why its not traded on eth, because of crazy commissions for gas in Ethereum. You trying abandon any ERC-20 token on Ethereum.
Its tradable and alive! And its not old!
You have captured different part of site, where token not mentioned, its not an argument to stop service.
You complete delist token - refund, please!
What's are you talking about. Nothing edited!
I provide both screenshots to see your deleted lines.
So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.
It's not ok! It's you abandon our token.
Sir, sorry that I'm again trying to focus you on whole post. There is absolutely no arguments on each lie that we post and again generated new lie.
ok
Sure, kindly check these screenshots proving that the service was provided (+ many trackers passed), max efforts applied, but due to his low project quality (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CGHello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWM
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Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.
The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.
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I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?
Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh Quote
The Matic Network and GrandpaGreen (absolutely different token) is not related at all to this thread!
It does relate to the issue. You stopped to support Green token ERC20 (0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544). No mention of it on your web (screenshots below): https://greencoin.online/ So how do you think we can support a token if the project itself DOESN't SUPPORT it, and you DON’t RELATE TO it anymore.
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/R4VRyyy
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/JxgrD7d
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/XY8HnXV
Screenshot 5: https://ibb.co/WsJspqw
Screenshot 6: https://ibb.co/whnBJzZ
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25)
We got listing service on Tokpie (what has no priority) with forever free volume, but not on (CG,CMC, Etherscan - that has priority) In May we first time ask about 50% refund
CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December.
Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this
Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.
There was letters between these gap, with such topics (not so important for our opinion):Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this
Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.
50% refund in May
They tried to boost volume, and convinced that fail with CG would be compensating with free volume, to have more chance to be listed in future
https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Than we not control process and find in July, that stopped volume assistance.
They renew it after request, on that moment on three pairs
In early Aug was few letters about BNB pair possibility
They request with additional payments for this
In late Aug we ask about check their volume trading assistance, wasn't stable
They ignored it
Than we not control the volume assistance
and checkup it in Dec - two pairs from three was not active
and Coingecko isn't possible during their last emails at all they changed/add new rules and ask about new money depositing for volume boosting seems ask about new 950$ for CG form update.
Here is the full letter, because on previous screenshot only part visible
https://i.ibb.co/p4dJ2TC/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-04-44-18-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
You may see, that additional services payments for updates needed (you may see its not purple, added specially) CMC(950$) + CG(950$)
and only after at least CG(950$) they will update etherscan.
And after all of this, they delisted GREEN from Tokpie and post, that they something technically can't here on Bitcointalk.
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his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore.
Shame on me
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The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko. Shame on me
The second reason - is tried to trust to Tokpie, that with volume, that can do something. Shame on me
The second reason - is tried to trust to Tokpie, that with volume, that can do something. Shame on me
So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.
ok
Sure, kindly check these screenshots proving that the service was provided (+ many trackers passed), max efforts applied, but due to his low project quality (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CGHello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWM
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Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.
The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.
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I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?
Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December.
Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this
https://i.ibb.co/48Ww2FL/1.png
Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.
There was letters between these gap, with such topics (not so important for our opinion):Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this
https://i.ibb.co/48Ww2FL/1.png
Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.
50% refund in May
They tried to boost volume, and convinced that fail with CG would be compensating with free volume, to have more chance to be listed in future
https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Than we not control process and find in July, that stopped volume assistance.
They renew it after request, on that moment on three pairs
In early Aug was few letters about BNB pair possibility
They request with additional payments for this
In late Aug we ask about check their volume trading assistance, wasn't stable
They ignored it
Than we not control the volume assistance
and checkup it in Dec - two pairs from three was not active
and Coingecko isn't possible during their last emails at all they changed/add new rules and ask about new money depositing for volume boosting seems ask about new 950$ for CG form update.
Here is the full letter, because on previous screenshot only part visible
https://i.ibb.co/p4dJ2TC/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-04-44-18-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
You may see, that additional services payments for updates needed (you may see its not purple, added specially) CMC(950$) + CG(950$)
and only after at least CG(950$) they will update etherscan.
And after all of this, they delisted GREEN from Tokpie and post, that they something technically can't here on Bitcointalk.
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his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore.
Shame on me
The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko. Shame on me
The second reason - is tried to trust to Tokpie, that with volume, that can do something. Shame on me
ok
Sure, kindly check these screenshots proving that the service was provided (+ many trackers passed), max efforts applied, but due to his low project quality (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CGHello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWM
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Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.
The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.
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I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?
Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh 
Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
[...]
Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.
BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.
As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised a volume assistance that's free for forever, which should at least trasnlates for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.
I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?
Edit: adding and changing some words to better match the terms raised by TOKPIE on the email and the situation happened.
Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
Besides, look at many positive feedback about Tokpie listing service:
MYC: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6804871552434360320?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6804871552434360320%2C6873198370144571392%29
TREKS: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6866725839640375296?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6866725839640375296%2C6866823186894331904%29
KLTR: https://twitter.com/thedartcoart/status/1457433106173071374
ZITI: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6796937558434676736
SCCN: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tokpie_discover-the-succession-project-sccn-token-activity-6826862025122168833-sS9U/
PXBSC: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tokpie_meet-the-paradox-nft-bsc-pxbsc-token-activity-6834476088618565633-axBa
PEECH: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6797181290329313280
Coinstox's CEO: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6776126388576624640/.
DIRTY: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6795703391017426944 (https://t.me/BillyWizz)
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:
1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.
2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!
Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.
Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.
Besides, look at many positive feedback about Tokpie listing service:
MYC: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6804871552434360320?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6804871552434360320%2C6873198370144571392%29
TREKS: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6866725839640375296?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6866725839640375296%2C6866823186894331904%29
KLTR: https://twitter.com/thedartcoart/status/1457433106173071374
ZITI: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6796937558434676736
SCCN: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tokpie_discover-the-succession-project-sccn-token-activity-6826862025122168833-sS9U/
PXBSC: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tokpie_meet-the-paradox-nft-bsc-pxbsc-token-activity-6834476088618565633-axBa
PEECH: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6797181290329313280
Coinstox's CEO: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6776126388576624640/.
DIRTY: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6795703391017426944 (https://t.me/BillyWizz)
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The deal did not work as they changed their terms and conditions. The next thing they were supposed to do was to pay back what OP sent to them and everyone leaves happy, but they refusedI don't know how legitimate OP's project is, but one thing I now know is that he paid them so ETH for a service they have never provided.
As I previously stated, all indications up to this point are in favor of CryptorClub, that Tokpie/YOUC are doing misconduct by breaching their contract. However, I would really love if we could cover every ground --and every side of the story-- before the flag raised. What concerned me, other than some emails are not shown in full, which leads to a possibility to a biased judgement from the third parties who read this thread, is the date between the emails.
CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December.
Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this
Now, I'm not sure if my hunch is correct, that judging from the post history, LinksMe.ga is CryptorClub's alt, and if I'm correct, whether this should be considered as a ban-evasion, but I'll leave that matters --just like I'm temporarily dropping the discussion in GGREEN's Ann-- in pursue of solving this case. Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.
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I'm not full-time part of team, but write here covering interests of Green team direction and CryptorClub account was muted on 30 day because of "incentive posts" on Bounty topic (it wasn't, because those topic collect addresses for airdrop). Anyway that was recognized as incentive and answer from CryptorClub, seems we got in New Year.
Maybe needed best, experienced Bounty manager, to manage that thread.
[...]
I'm not full-time part of team, but write here covering interests of Green team direction and CryptorClub account was muted on 30 day because of "incentive posts" on Bounty topic (it wasn't, because those topic collect addresses for airdrop). Anyway that was recognized as incentive and answer from CryptorClub, seems we got in New Year.
Maybe needed best, experienced Bounty manager, to manage that thread.
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On the other hand, BTCITA187's silence is rather concerning. If by some reason they're not aware of this thread --which I doubt they didn't-- I am somewhat sure they noticed that bright orange negative trust that sat on their profile. Just in case, I'll wrote on TOKPIE's telegram as well as sending a PM to them. I'll add the screenshot of the invitation via edit. If they remains to be silent after the invitation... well, let's hope not.
Edit: a screenshot of notifying BTCITA187 via PM and a post in YOUC thread --which managed by them.
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The deal did not work as they changed their terms and conditions. The next thing they were supposed to do was to pay back what OP sent to them and everyone leaves happy, but they refusedI don't know how legitimate OP's project is, but one thing I now know is that he paid them so ETH for a service they have never provided.
I searched YOUC thread --which also managed by BTCITA187-- and learned that both project had formed a partnership. A cursory glance at the last page gave me an impression that YOUC, however, seems to start abandoning their project.
Although all indication up to this point pointed to the direction that the accused are indeed doing a misconduct, I think we need to be sure we cover every side of the story, this email --I quote below-- is the entire length of the email body? What I wanted to know is whether there is a statement anywhere and at any point during your negotiation with TOKPIE/YOUC that there are certain terms and condition that has to be met for the lifetime volume assistance?
If there is a clear evidence that there were not any information about terms and condition for lifetime support, thus TOKPIE/YOUC is breaching the contract, I'll gladly support the flag.
pls google this issue. There were mutual blog posts between them about cooperation 7-9 months ago.
Although all indication up to this point pointed to the direction that the accused are indeed doing a misconduct, I think we need to be sure we cover every side of the story, this email --I quote below-- is the entire length of the email body? What I wanted to know is whether there is a statement anywhere and at any point during your negotiation with TOKPIE/YOUC that there are certain terms and condition that has to be met for the lifetime volume assistance?
If there is a clear evidence that there were not any information about terms and condition for lifetime support, thus TOKPIE/YOUC is breaching the contract, I'll gladly support the flag.
10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total
20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.
Thank you for pay attention!
Alright, makes sense now20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.
Thank you for pay attention!
BTCITA187 was online today but didn't bother responding to the scam accusation. In the next few days, I will mark them as scammers if they don't do anything to resolve the scam accusation.
I would also advise you to create type 1 and type 2 flags ob their profiles if they don't work on the issue in the coming days.
Don't used before type 1 and type 2 flags. Will mark in few days.
10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total
20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.
Thank you for pay attention!
Alright, makes sense now20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.
Thank you for pay attention!
BTCITA187 was online today but didn't bother responding to the scam accusation. In the next few days, I will mark them as scammers if they don't do anything to resolve the scam accusation.
I would also advise you to create type 1 and type 2 flags ob their profiles if they don't work on the issue in the coming days.