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Well ...there goes my favorites Slovenia. I had them to win the Olympics but Luka really playing alone in that squad and his teammates should be ashamed of them for letting a kid carry them trough all the games. Against France he made a triple double and he away 1 point away from tie the game and make it to in OT but like I said , Luka was playing alone and no one had a bit of ego in him to uplift his game style and try to help him.

I disagree with that, when Luka was struggling against Spain, his teammates bailed him out and they have a win. They did everything as a team, everyone contributed but France is just the better team and lucky as well. a 1 point loss is not something to be ashamed of.
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Well ...there goes my favorites Slovenia. I had them to win the Olympics but Luka really playing alone in that squad and his teammates should be ashamed of them for letting a kid carry them trough all the games. Against France he made a triple double and he away 1 point away from tie the game and make it to in OT but like I said , Luka was playing alone and no one had a bit of ego in him to uplift his game style and try to help him.
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Don't rub it in mate,  Grin I have Slovenia -2.5 against France,  Sad.

Anyhow, yeah, there are still games that we can bet and at least recoup some losses. -3.5 for Slovenia against Australia is a good bet already.

Yeah, I'm still torn on the USA vs France, we know that the chances of them winning against France is big, but the question is the handicap, I think sport bookies have overlook France team capability to beat USA.

Bronze rally for both Slovenia and Australia, not done for Luka  to bring pride to their country, Bronze is better than nothing.

While with US and France, value for ML ain't enough for your risk money, handicap though is really hard to decide yet, knowing that France already beat US but once pride take over, I expect team US will beat them with a high leads, convincing that they are still superior with this sport.
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USA vs AUSTRALIA Semifinal

I have watched the game highlights and it was an intense game and as usual, Kevin Durant has fired up and done 23 pts and 9 Rebound for the semi-finals of the game, and Devin Booker with 20 pts while both Jrue Holiday and Khris Middleton have 11 pts While for Australia Patty Mills has 15 pts with Dante Exum have 14 and Jock Landale has 11 to compete for the Final USA won the game and will again face France were they have lost in the first game.
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To the gamblers who lose their bets for Slovenia, there is still a chance. They want a medal so bad because this will be their first in this division.
So Bronze will be their goal and they will need to defeat the Boomers first. The odds are not that far so I think there is a chance we could win this.
I will lock my bet early for Slovenia -3.5. On the other hand, it's difficult to decide how much handicap to put in betting for USA. High chance they will win but there's a possibility of a close game. They are still the favorites even after losing to France at preliminary so history will not help much.

Don't rub it in mate,  Grin I have Slovenia -2.5 against France,  Sad.

Anyhow, yeah, there are still games that we can bet and at least recoup some losses. -3.5 for Slovenia against Australia is a good bet already.

Yeah, I'm still torn on the USA vs France, we know that the chances of them winning against France is big, but the question is the handicap, I think sport bookies have overlook France team capability to beat USA.
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France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.

We will never forget that, but it seems the odds provider are still making USA the favorite to win the gold medal. Everyone wants to see a good finals and this one is going to be exciting as USA will have to avenge their loss in the opening and their one and only chance to do it is in the final match.

The opening lost for US was a big news for the basketball world as questions have been raised whether they can win the gold or not. But here we are, they are already in the finals, so that lost was somewhat forgotten already by the media because it didn't have an effect on their performance there after.
I know, and I like that because it makes the France underrated, in fact the odds now is FRANCE are given a handicap of +12.5.
For me, it's a gift becasue France are confident they can still beat the USA, and if they loss, at least they'll cover the spread.


Though the USA lineup is full of superstars, but the France team also has a lot of NBA players and their main advantage is the chemistry.

USA is slowly blending up, initially it was really difficult for the coach on how to manage each and every superstars, but they understand their roles and what it was needed for them to contribute and achieved that gold medal. So I think USA will win the gold medal and the streak continues.

Good luck on your bet too, lol... me, I think I'll play the luck game.  Smiley
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To the gamblers who lose their bets for Slovenia, there is still a chance. They want a medal so bad because this will be their first in this division.
So Bronze will be their goal and they will need to defeat the Boomers first. The odds are not that far so I think there is a chance we could win this.
I will lock my bet early for Slovenia -3.5. On the other hand, it's difficult to decide how much handicap to put in betting for USA. High chance they will win but there's a possibility of a close game. They are still the favorites even after losing to France at preliminary so history will not help much.
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France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.

We will never forget that, but it seems the odds provider are still making USA the favorite to win the gold medal. Everyone wants to see a good finals and this one is going to be exciting as USA will have to avenge their loss in the opening and their one and only chance to do it is in the final match.

The opening lost for US was a big news for the basketball world as questions have been raised whether they can win the gold or not. But here we are, they are already in the finals, so that lost was somewhat forgotten already by the media because it didn't have an effect on their performance there after.

Though the USA lineup is full of superstars, but the France team also has a lot of NBA players and their main advantage is the chemistry.

USA is slowly blending up, initially it was really difficult for the coach on how to manage each and every superstars, but they understand their roles and what it was needed for them to contribute and achieved that gold medal. So I think USA will win the gold medal and the streak continues.
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France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.

We will never forget that, but it seems the odds provider are still making USA the favorite to win the gold medal. Everyone wants to see a good finals and this one is going to be exciting as USA will have to avenge their loss in the opening and their one and only chance to do it is in the final match.

Though the USA lineup is full of superstars, but the France team also has a lot of NBA players and their main advantage is the chemistry.
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I was one of the people who thought that Slovenia would win against France with the big help of Luka Doncic. And they were really close to doing it also. Luka Doncic had a very impressive performance including 16 points, 10 rebounds and 18 assists. But still, France managed to defeat them by only 1 point (90-89). This must be really devastating for Slovenia. They had a huge win streak before this game and they were so close to maintaining it. I still appreciate their performance very much. They can achieve better with Luka Doncic in the future.

USA defeated Australia without having too much problem just as I expected. Durant was the most scorer again of course.  Grin  Now in the final game, USA are going to play against their hardest opponent, France. As you can remember, France defeated USA in a group match, 83-76. This proves that they are capable of doing it again in the final game also. USA should play the game being aware of that.
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
Well, it's over now for some regrets Luka will be greater than ever with this experience and loss. He may have lost but he made history for the Slovenian soil and he averages triple double in the Olympics. I don't know over the edge of domination over team USA but they may have more chance I guess.
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Yeah, I thought that it will be Slovenia vs US in the finals, and I take a L on both games.

The thing with Luka though is that he has a bad shooting night because France defenders put a physical on him. Nevertheless, the finals between USA and France will be good, Gobert and Batum will have to carry France in both defense and offense. But we all know that team USA has a lot of players that can shoot and take the game so it will be very though for France to win against USA.
So that's an interesting factor.
France always had a competitive team during the Olympics and that cannot be denied.

Look, France will play as much as they can, they'll probably be with the mentality "If we beat the US once, we can win again."

Not belittling France, but I'm sure the US will play very well. I can be bold in what I'm going to say, but in my opinion the US will beat France with 15 points or more!

The US is hegemony in basketball, even though it doesn't have its main players, the US has a huge chance of being champions.

The USA is so powerful in basketball, if we put the dream team of 92 or some team of 2008 or 2012 with their best players in history, I even believe that this dream team of the USA is capable of beating the rest of the world.

The countries of Europe could even create a team with the best players in Europe, and even then the US will have a chance to win this compilation of the best players in Europe..(of course, in my humble opinion)

This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.
Basketball really is a box of surprises!

I think I even commented before, for Slovenia to be able to beat France with a little bit easily, Luka would need to be on fire.

Even though he performed poorly, the game was very close and even Slovenia had a chance to beat France (but unfortunately it didn't happen)
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
It was not his night on the offensive end but his assists were something to be admired.
That means he didn't give up even though he is having a bad night and the referee grilling him with bad calls. Then he received the tech that shuts him down.
There are still winners in this bet. Congratulations to those who bet for +1.5 Slovenia.

France vs USA. -12.5 for USA? Isn't it a bit much underestimating the France team?
Might as well just take the + for France which I think has a better chance to win.
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USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

Agreed betting US at those odds just aren't worth it.  Will they lose, probably not but waste a possible hundred with just getting $12 in return.  Risk reward just isn't there.  The point spread might be the best thing to bet here.  If I had to bet one side with the current odds I would bet on the US tough to bet against them right now.

They are more composed by now unlike the first time that they've met, the rotations and the aggressiveness of each players inside the court is more sronger now.

But like both of you taking ML is not good risking huge amount of money  in hope of increasing it by 12%, handicap might work but waiting for the live event may give some better looks betting against this two countries.

The quest for gold still near for US squad, it depends now from how they'll going to complete it.

You'll never know if you can get a good point spread betting on live, what if USA starts hot and they'll lead by 20 points, for sure we will not anymore see the -11.5, the line would change to -20 or up which I'm sure we will anymore try to risk betting on the spread.
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This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

I have doubts about the US team campaign early on but after their good showing after their loss to France, and how they blend I think the US team can match France talents, it's going to be a very good match in the finals and it can go either way, for me, their first match has no bearing anymore on their coming match, the NBA veterans hopefully will blend their individual's talent and comes out with a good play.

Yes, on the contrary, that "big" lost against France was really a wake up call for them, so they started to work their chemistry and blending. And we really see that they struggle after that lost, but eventually the puzzle fall into pieces and right now they are still the favourite to win against France, but it will not be an easy win because France has talent and have NBA players in their rosters.
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Great win by France, Nicholas Batum is really a key piece for them.

Tough loss by Australia as well. Up by 15 in the second quarter and managed to blow that lead and lose by nearly 20 - but I guess that just shows you the dominance of the U.S. team.

For U.S. vs France though, I'd still back France given that they have beaten the US before and they are definitely the more team oriented team. We've seen how badly the US can play together - it's like they are a bunch of individuals instead of a cohesive group.
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This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

I have doubts about the US team campaign early on but after their good showing after their loss to France, and how they blend I think the US team can match France talents, it's going to be a very good match in the finals and it can go either way, for me, their first match has no bearing anymore on their coming match, the NBA veterans hopefully will blend their individual's talent and comes out with a good play.
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.

Yeah, I thought that it will be Slovenia vs US in the finals, and I take a L on both games.

The thing with Luka though is that he has a bad shooting night because France defenders put a physical on him. Nevertheless, the finals between USA and France will be good, Gobert and Batum will have to carry France in both defense and offense. But we all know that team USA has a lot of players that can shoot and take the game so it will be very though for France to win against USA.
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
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