Topic: Tom Williams ~ The Smoking Gun(s) or Phin's Pholly - page 5. (Read 16319 times)

Why do you believe that?

I recall the opposite to be true.

Are you suggesting that Jan van Vliet is/was directly involved with the weusecoins.com folks? Barring some other link that I haven't perceived yet, I could easily see him as being just another Bitcoin enthusiast who stuck the weusecoins.com reference in his signature to promote his area of interest, just as I have been known to link to things which interest me but which I have had no direct involvement in creating. Like the Apple sticker that I stuck on my work-issued Lenovo laptop; I have no relationship with Apple other than repeatedly giving them lots of money for another hit of their sweet shinies. If I recall correctly, and my brain is not too fogged by the cheap store-brand vodka (don't worry, I'm not Russian), van Vliet appears to be involved with web/network service provision. His apparent connection to other People Of Interest may be due to nothing more than having provided them with services, thus learning about Bitcoins in the process, and then subsequently signing up for some of the same popular, well-publicized services as them. Maybe it's no coincidence that his name shows up in multiple particular places, yet there's another quite plausible explanation for that other than direct involvement with any of our favorite scams. Remember: Correlation does not always imply causation.

On the broadcast, Hero claims to know those at mybitcoin.com but then claims he doesn't know who Tom Williams is. He also stutters during his assessment. Hero also states that there is no connection what-so-ever between mybitcoin.com and BW. Of course there was--advertising and dollars/BTC changed hands. I'm not exactly convinced that they are not connected. If and when I'm proven wrong, I will concede that point.

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I will concede that Stefan Thomas and Frank van Vliet are entirely two different people. The email address is @ the domain hosting site, hence my confusion. But: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/117467/171/

and this:

Twitter         http://twitter.com/zium

Jan van Vliet   (related?)
BitCoin: The decentralized, digital alternative to government fiat money! weusecoins.com
14 Jun via Tweet Button

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I believe it's because of the salting, also.

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Is this a coincidence?

50730,haakjes,frank@root66.org,$1$9...    (Is  weusecoins.com)
50731,hammerfortyfour,t.williams@bankofamerica.com,$1$9...   (account created prior to Mt.Gox getting hacked--possibly EG)

MagicalTux posted a while back (3-4 months?) that russian criminals attempted to extort his business for $7000 per month.

He didn't yield to their demands, so there were massive DDoS attacks on Mt. Gox which caused significant financial harm and lowered trading volumes.

Just food for thought.
In fact, he even had to shut down the entire Mt. Gox after the attack became unbearable.

http://bitcointalk.org/?topic=6931.0

Just a pinch of salt:

Has anyone ever confirmed with MagicalTux that the leaked user list has not been tampered with?  For what I know users may have been added or removed by whoever posted and reposted the file. Since information is already public, I hope MagicalTux can compare the files and at least provide a simple yes or no, with a sha1 of the file.

The more I try to make sense of what our friend Phin is posting here, the more I lean towards "hogwash". These so called connections seem to me to be stretches worthy of Mr. Slave. I've become comfortable about presuming that 1) mybitcoin was likely to be a scam from the start, and 2) BW is probably somebody I would prefer not to associate with. Much of what has been presented in various threads also makes me somewhat suspicious that BW may have been closely involved with the mybitcoin scam. Still, I really don't see logic behind many of these other supposed connections. They seem to be based more on numerology than solid logic to me. Well, if nothing else, this thread is entertaining to me.

P.S.  Just in case it's not completely clear, pretty much all of the connections I've proposed in this thread so far have been completely satirical B.S. I was telling the truth about feeding my neighbor's horse, though, and even about securing my hat on my head.

Hi Bruno,

I know you are having fun with this. You might get some insight from this;

http://agoristradio.com/?p=480

starting at about minute 15

Shane

there is none.  as you can see in the list Phin just put up, just about every other one or more starts with this string.  i think this is the result of the MD5 salting.  nothing here folks.

Aha! drumhacker72 and Goat must be the same person, because they (and only they) rated up tien.dat79, and both were invited by dwdollar. We're through the looking glass, people! I still don't see how the Rand Corporation fits in, though.  

Explain the significance of a password starting with "$1$" or not.

I put the link is the first post of this thread and it's still working: http://dump.udderweb.com/Censorship/mtgox_leak.txt

I will do that. Until then: https://www.bitcoinmarket.com/market/members/view/?market_memberID=6765

Phinnaeus:  do you still have the .csv list of all the hacked accts on mtgox?  every source i've googled today has been taken down.

Get ready for bitcoin justice.

Maria.

tien.dat79's profile on a forum called 'Hoc Lap Trinh' which means 'Programming' in English.

http://social360.info/thanh-vien/674200

His pic is there too!

He's pretty active in their Bitcoin forums...over 2600 pages just on bitcoin.

I don't know why you won't even consider this is the guy.

You keep trying to make some connection to Bruce but I highly doubt BW has the technical aptitude to program mybitcoin.  This Vietnamese guy sure does.

i'll do better than a picture.  here's his keynote speech at Bitcon:  http://onlyonetv.com/#5

I don't even know who Terry Gilbert is; I just googled the name and picked one who had been deceased for an amusingly long period of time. And thankfully, I have never met Ms. Hilton. 

if i recall correctly those "$1$" are the expect results of the MD5 salting that was added to passwords.  thats why you're seeing so many start with that sequence including nguyens.

I'll go along with "probably signed up the same day" based on proximity in the password file, but I don't conclude "possibly on the same computer" any more than for any other two accounts that are near each other in that file. Maybe I'm just dense (as a side-effect of entering the afterlife back in 2001), but I'm just not seeing the connection between BW's and EG's pants.

FYI, everyone. I was joking about NF6X being Terry Gilbert. I made that up. Now, let's see if I can tied this all together.