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newbie
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April 11, 2012, 02:46:05 AM
#25
Ha! Hope this will do. (You can compare it to my likeness in this recent video: http://www.indiegogo.com/albin-and-the-bully ).
sr. member
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April 10, 2012, 06:55:36 PM
#24
Yes I'm him (though don't know how I could prove it to you in case you're looking for a weightier confirmation).

Post a picture of yourself (face) holding a sign with your username.

Bonus points for putting a shoe on your head.

EDIT: Other options include a public post from your twitter, facebook, etc. referencing this thread
newbie
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April 10, 2012, 05:33:48 PM
#23
Yes I'm him (though don't know how I could prove it to you in case you're looking for a weightier confirmation).
newbie
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April 10, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
#22
Ah I can post here! I must have graduated from n00b academy. Thanks for the valuable feedback.

I figured out some important tricks today that will enable a much smoother result with the 'animated illustration' style. Together with the stuff I learned doing the first one I'm confident that the next one will be much better. I hope it works out with the funding somehow, would love to do this project.
full member
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April 09, 2012, 05:13:03 PM
#21
If this project does need any custom narration to fill in some gaps, Stephanie Murphy, host of Porc Therapy on the Liberty Radio Network, does voice work for about 10 BTC per minute of finished audio.
sr. member
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April 08, 2012, 04:33:06 PM
#20
Rough audio can be good audio

I strongly disagree with the one commentator who believes that a high-quality custom narration recording would be necessary to create a video capable of achieving the desired impact. I believe that a 'patchwork' of different voices can give a very dynamic and engaging effect. Also worth bearing in mind: there is an extent to which people appreciate perceived authenticity. The 'slick' approach is already very well represented in the weusecoins video. This new video would take a different approach. In my view, what it may lack in polish (as far as the audio recordings go at least) it would more than make up for in dynamism, the impression of authenticity, and engaging visual style.

In my view the RSA animated illustration format works best when there's a certain casualness to the narration--the result is as if these images are a visual manifestation of thought, conjured up as the person develops his story on the spot. This effect is diminished, imo, to the extent that the viewer is under the impression they're listening to a carefully scripted narration. I believe that the 'roughness' of the sample audio I've heard suits this approach very well.

+1

I feel it would work especially well with a p2p project like bitcoin. 

Bitcoin, I feel, is best portrayed as 'not' just another way/scheme for one to get wealthy, but as a fair system that just works, for everybody.

Such ideas, I think, are best put across using as little as possible the usual slick formulaic advertising/propaganda tricks that have become
ubiquitous post World War II; instead appealing to higher centers within the human psyche.   




Having multiple voices would really convey that this is a decentralized movement ... in a kind of 'we are the world' type of feeling (if you know what I mean.)

Now for the actual work of getting this done...
legendary
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My money; Our Bitcoin.
April 08, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
#19
Rough audio can be good audio

I strongly disagree with the one commentator who believes that a high-quality custom narration recording would be necessary to create a video capable of achieving the desired impact. I believe that a 'patchwork' of different voices can give a very dynamic and engaging effect. Also worth bearing in mind: there is an extent to which people appreciate perceived authenticity. The 'slick' approach is already very well represented in the weusecoins video. This new video would take a different approach. In my view, what it may lack in polish (as far as the audio recordings go at least) it would more than make up for in dynamism, the impression of authenticity, and engaging visual style.

In my view the RSA animated illustration format works best when there's a certain casualness to the narration--the result is as if these images are a visual manifestation of thought, conjured up as the person develops his story on the spot. This effect is diminished, imo, to the extent that the viewer is under the impression they're listening to a carefully scripted narration. I believe that the 'roughness' of the sample audio I've heard suits this approach very well.

+1

I feel it would work especially well with a p2p project like bitcoin. 

Bitcoin, I feel, is best portrayed as 'not' just another way/scheme for one to get wealthy, but as a fair system that just works, for everybody.

Such ideas, I think, are best put across using as little as possible the usual slick formulaic advertising/propaganda tricks that have become
ubiquitous post World War II; instead appealing to higher centers within the human psyche.   

hero member
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April 08, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
#18
I await this video with great patience.

Hopefully the price will go to $5 again as a result, too Cheesy
sr. member
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April 08, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
#17
Tomasz doesnt have a bitcointalk account yet, so I am posting this for him here..

"""
A few things i wanted to mention in response to the conversation there:

Audio

I'm very happy to have the decisions made about which parts of spoken text to include, made by you and others. But it will make sense for me to do the actual editing of the audio myself as I put the thing together. I have a bunch of software that I'll be using to optimise the audio quality, and if i'm doing the editing I'll have more flexibility during this stage.

Expectations, working process

The way I see it potentially working is that the decisions about narrative content are handled by you and others, and then that's passed on to me. I'll need a good deal of autonomy while working on the animation, so this won't be a democratic or transparent process (at least after it gets passed on to me)--it will require a good amount of trust in my ability to create something worthwhile. This may be important to communicate to potential sponsors early on.

If there are particular requirements about how things should be visualised, you can let me know, but I expect most of these decisions to be left up to me--in order for me to be able to draw the kinds of things I think i can do a good job of!

A video about Bitcoin, not libertarianism

Although I'm certainly a libertarian, any worries that this video be an advocacy for a stateless society are unfounded. At least as far as I'm imagining the content chosen, it will be a video about BitCoin--not about libertarianism (although of course there are obvious overlaps). Nor will I be a spokesperson for BitCoin in this vid, I plan to mention my my name and email address in the credits, but apart from that I'll be as 'behind the scenes' as possible.

Rough audio can be good audio

I strongly disagree with the one commentator who believes that a high-quality custom narration recording would be necessary to create a video capable of achieving the desired impact. I believe that a 'patchwork' of different voices can give a very dynamic and engaging effect. Also worth bearing in mind: there is an extent to which people appreciate perceived authenticity. The 'slick' approach is already very well represented in the weusecoins video. This new video would take a different approach. In my view, what it may lack in polish (as far as the audio recordings go at least) it would more than make up for in dynamism, the impression of authenticity, and engaging visual style.

In my view the RSA animated illustration format works best when there's a certain casualness to the narration--the result is as if these images are a visual manifestation of thought, conjured up as the person develops his story on the spot. This effect is diminished, imo, to the extent that the viewer is under the impression they're listening to a carefully scripted narration. I believe that the 'roughness' of the sample audio I've heard suits this approach very well.

That's all for now (please feel free to relay any of this to the forum as you see fit).
Thanks! Tomasz
"""
hero member
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April 08, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
#16
Terry, thanks for protecting us ignorant folk from the massive fraud that bitpay tried to pull on us by recommending a service for our needs! lets stay vigilant and make sure no one makes any profit ever. That's a sure way to discourage capital investment and ensure bitcoin goes nowhere fast.
Will do, Sir!
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April 08, 2012, 01:34:08 PM
#15
Terry, thanks for protecting us ignorant folk from the massive fraud that bitpay tried to pull on us by recommending a service for our needs! lets stay vigilant and make sure no one makes any profit ever. That's a sure way to discourage capital investment and ensure bitcoin goes nowhere fast.
Will this discussion be on piratemyfilm? link?
legendary
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April 08, 2012, 12:48:06 AM
#14
Don't we have an awesome video already at http://weusecoins.com?
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
April 08, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
#13
osmosis I am confused.

You say Mr. Kaye will make a video for $2K and that sounds great I would gladly donate towards a top notch video explaining the merits of Bitcoin.

Then you go on to say we need to create the audio and talk about grabbing sound clips.  $2K for a seemless video (something similar to what is recorded at the link) is a great deal.  $2K for some animation which clashes horribly with soundbites is worthless IMHO.

The goal would be a professional seemless top notch video.   Maybe I am not understanding what is proposed?
I met with osmosis this morning and got the short version of this project. My understanding is that the audio/video that would be used in the final product would be edited in with matched animation. Using snippets from bitcoin talks given around the world.  but I'll let him explain his vision.
hero member
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April 07, 2012, 09:08:26 PM
#12
I have had numerous interactions with Tomasz as well, and I would LOVE to have him help with the next Bitcoin video.

His video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs  is one of my very favorites in all of youtube.
It started the longest discussion my facebook page has ever seen.

I am more than happy to donate towards making this happen.

Tomasz is a real world HERO!

thanks for the link. from someone who'd never heard of tomasz or georgeoughttohelp before.
vip
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April 07, 2012, 08:30:07 PM
#11
I have had numerous interactions with Tomasz as well, and I would LOVE to have him help with the next Bitcoin video.

His video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs  is one of my very favorites in all of youtube.
It started the longest discussion my facebook page has ever seen.

I am more than happy to donate towards making this happen.

Tomasz is a real world HERO!
hero member
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April 07, 2012, 07:27:45 PM
#10
We spent about $2000 of our own money to fly to Prague, fly Max and Stacy to Prague, negotiate the deal for them to accept bitcoin, work with their developer to integrate bit-pay, and test and launch the system.

Bit-Pay makes 0.99% of bitcoin sales on this site.  So far to date that has earned us approximately $7.95.  So we have a loooooooong way to go before any profits are close to being realized.
Thanks, this is the reply I expected.

Shut up Terry. Profit is good, not bad.

PirateMyFilm is a extremely appropriate tool for this project and I hope Tony makes a gazillion Bitcoins for producing such a wonderful system to enable easy and efficient payments through that site.
Profit is great! Concealing an advertisement in something that looks like a personal recommendation without disclosing the nature of your business interests isn't (in my book).

You are of course free to do what ever you'd like.
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Gerald Davis
April 07, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
#9
osmosis I am confused.

You say Mr. Kaye will make a video for $2K and that sounds great I would gladly donate towards a top notch video explaining the merits of Bitcoin.

Then you go on to say we need to create the audio and talk about grabbing sound clips.  $2K for a seemless video (something similar to what is recorded at the link) is a great deal.  $2K for some animation which clashes horribly with soundbites is worthless IMHO.

The goal would be a professional seemless top notch video.   Maybe I am not understanding what is proposed?
legendary
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April 07, 2012, 07:03:31 PM
#8
I would suggest the perfect crowdsourcing site, which can accept bitcoin donations:

http://piratemyfilm.com

I am still producing the bitcoin video that I fundraised through that, and its coming along very nicely!
Tell me, Sir,
will you make a financial gain on payments sent to "piratemyfilm"?
I believe they use Bit-Pay, in which case there is a fee unless they have been granted an exception for some reason.
Failing that, I see why you would promote this site (to pad your pocket, obviously), although full disclosure would be preferred. To be blunt, I would expect full disclosure from a man of your stature.

On behalf of the uninitiated,
Terry

Shut up Terry. Profit is good, not bad.

PirateMyFilm is a extremely appropriate tool for this project and I hope Tony makes a gazillion Bitcoins for producing such a wonderful system to enable easy and efficient payments through that site.

legendary
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April 07, 2012, 06:53:28 PM
#7
I can recommend this for crowdfunding - BitcoinStarter - http://www.coinconnect.org/groups/profile/34430/bitcoinstarter
hero member
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April 07, 2012, 06:44:42 PM
#6
I would suggest the perfect crowdsourcing site, which can accept bitcoin donations:

http://piratemyfilm.com

I am still producing the bitcoin video that I fundraised through that, and its coming along very nicely!
Tell me, Sir,
will you make a financial gain on payments sent to "piratemyfilm"?
I believe they use Bit-Pay, in which case there is a fee unless they have been granted an exception for some reason.
Failing that, I see why you would promote this site (to pad your pocket, obviously), although full disclosure would be preferred. To be blunt, I would expect full disclosure from a man of your stature.

On behalf of the uninitiated,
Terry

We spent about $2000 of our own money to fly to Prague, fly Max and Stacy to Prague, negotiate the deal for them to accept bitcoin, work with their developer to integrate bit-pay, and test and launch the system.

Bit-Pay makes 0.99% of bitcoin sales on this site.  So far to date that has earned us approximately $7.95.  So we have a loooooooong way to go before any profits are close to being realized.
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