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Topic: Tomatocage if you remove Quickseller from your Trust I will pay you 2 BTC (Read 2335 times)

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legendary
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Huh What are you talking about?

TC removed me from his list shortly after this thread was created although he said that he was not aware of this offer when he removed me.

So you say he earned some quick 2BTC? Maybe i should add you on default trust, wait until i get 2BTC and take you off again. (/whisper... We can share the 2BTC... Tongue) Cheesy:D:D:D

Jokes aside... i dont think he took 2 BTC. If someone would pay him then he would have done so by pm, not in public. Publicity would only lower the chance of that being successful.
I didn't say that he took the 2 BTC. I am only stating that he was offered 2 BTC, I had made a mistake in tagging ndnhc as an alt of someone who tried to extort one of his campaign participants at a time when ndnhc happened to be away for several days resulting in him not responding to the allegation for several days (and no one noticed the hole in my theory - carra23 did however she did not disclose the flaw to me at all or to anyone publicly - despite several people looking at the evidence closely) then I was removed shortly thereafter.

The timing of this thread being created and ndnhc getting his name cleared and my removal was very close to each other. The ndnhc incident was clearly a frame job with me being the target. At this point I don't have any solid evidence as to who was behind it however my current suspicion is that it was KoS and that twipple is an alt of KoS, although I don't have any solid evidence of this.....yet.

I did own a default trust account for a brief period after I was removed although it has since been sold so technically KoS's terms were not met because I had an alt on default trust.  

Overall I think the chances of TC taking the 2 BTC is low, however this thread is worth mentioning when discussing removals from default trust.

Edit: you can add me to your trust list if you like although I doubt anyone would offer you money to remove me because you are not on level 1 default trust. KOS wanted TC to remove me from his trust list because me being on his trust list resulted in my ratings showing up by default to all users. If you have any kind of custom trust list then the chances are high that I am in your trust network already.

Yes, i remember that thread. Though you mentioned that you did not get a tip about it, which makes it unlikely that you were the target.

Adding you to my trust list... you know how this would end.  Roll Eyes Not that i like fighting but its so annoying and so immensely time consuming that its no fun anymore. It seems there are people in the forum that have way too much time and i cant compete with that.
I trust you though im not fully ok with the way you rate negative, like the worhipper_ case. I think that would not have needed a red trust though its your decision. I think you got a lot of contrary opinions on that too.

Anyway... i hope the forum is by far not so corrupted how one could think when reading some things on here. Cheesy
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KoS was most probably joking here and he will not pay anyone for removing a user from the DT. The fact of saying that he was offered the amount and shortly after that he removed a user doesn't make sense as TC has earned a lot of reputation and trust here and I don't even think the nhndc claim was to frame just 1 user. Anyone could have done it with the intention of hurting nhndc's trust. I don't even think anyone was aware of nhndc being offline for that time period as he wasn't in contact of anybody and this incident was merely to tease him rather than any other user. However, this incident has made both quite alert of what could happen to anyone of us.
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At this time , one would think if someone had an offer like this one . Or if one had a red trust on his account and ofcourse a guy like you who could offer this much heavy bucks for just removing trust . Both tomatocage and quickseller seem to be legit . However , tomatocage seems more reliable than him .
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Why not pay 20 BTC for a negative trust on him(Just kidding  Grin)
He will end up like Vod, just wait and watch.I can bet on it  Tongue
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Huh What are you talking about?

TC removed me from his list shortly after this thread was created although he said that he was not aware of this offer when he removed me.

So you say he earned some quick 2BTC? Maybe i should add you on default trust, wait until i get 2BTC and take you off again. (/whisper... We can share the 2BTC... Tongue) Cheesy:D:D:D

Jokes aside... i dont think he took 2 BTC. If someone would pay him then he would have done so by pm, not in public. Publicity would only lower the chance of that being successful.
I didn't say that he took the 2 BTC. I am only stating that he was offered 2 BTC, I had made a mistake in tagging ndnhc as an alt of someone who tried to extort one of his campaign participants at a time when ndnhc happened to be away for several days resulting in him not responding to the allegation for several days (and no one noticed the hole in my theory - carra23 did however she did not disclose the flaw to me at all or to anyone publicly - despite several people looking at the evidence closely) then I was removed shortly thereafter.

The timing of this thread being created and ndnhc getting his name cleared and my removal was very close to each other. The ndnhc incident was clearly a frame job with me being the target. At this point I don't have any solid evidence as to who was behind it however my current suspicion is that it was KoS and that twipple is an alt of KoS, although I don't have any solid evidence of this.....yet.

I did own a default trust account for a brief period after I was removed although it has since been sold so technically KoS's terms were not met because I had an alt on default trust.  

Overall I think the chances of TC taking the 2 BTC is low, however this thread is worth mentioning when discussing removals from default trust.

Edit: you can add me to your trust list if you like although I doubt anyone would offer you money to remove me because you are not on level 1 default trust. KOS wanted TC to remove me from his trust list because me being on his trust list resulted in my ratings showing up by default to all users. If you have any kind of custom trust list then the chances are high that I am in your trust network already.
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Huh What are you talking about?

TC removed me from his list shortly after this thread was created although he said that he was not aware of this offer when he removed me.

So you say he earned some quick 2BTC? Maybe i should add you on default trust, wait until i get 2BTC and take you off again. (/whisper... We can share the 2BTC... Tongue) Cheesy:D:D:D

Jokes aside... i dont think he took 2 BTC. If someone would pay him then he would have done so by pm, not in public. Publicity would only lower the chance of that being successful.
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Huh What are you talking about?

TC removed me from his list shortly after this thread was created although he said that he was not aware of this offer when he removed me.
legendary
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That's quite an offer just to remove someone from default trust. How does it matter anyway? If you don't trust someone on default trust list, add a tilde ~ before their name in your settings. Problem solved.

Unless of course this is just an ego thing, my mind is still boggled.
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Well it seems Tomatocage in an unrelated occurence did remove Quickseller from depth 2 of DefaultTrust.

KoS, I believe you owe Tomatocage 2 BTC, even if he didn't remove Quickseller to fulfil your request.
KoS seems to have a habit of defaulting on 2 BTC deals, so I doubt that he is going to pay out because of this  Cheesy
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Well it seems Tomatocage in an unrelated occurence did remove Quickseller from depth 2 of DefaultTrust.

KoS, I believe you owe Tomatocage 2 BTC, even if he didn't remove Quickseller to fulfil your request.


and now the other conditions:

Fitting as you all hate me over 2 BTC I'll do 2 BTC. You could keep it tomatocage or pay back Bigbitz since you always personally have believed I owe him or something. Anyways I want Quickseller off default trust. Badly.

Payment will be released after 180 days of him being removed from your trust AND Quickseller NOT being on default trust from anyone else to prevent any "tricks" or "loopholes". Also, you are not allowed to add anyone else to your default trust list to prevent you adding one of Quickseller's alts back to default trust.

Not going to happen. First off if TC accepted it, it would just prove his judgement couldn't be trusted anyway (he'd be removed from DefaultTrust) and a majority of people do agree that QS should be on the default trust list.

Secondly, there is nothing to stop anyone else readding him anyway (not to mention have fun finding an escrow who'll hold an 180 day trade) which effectively makes it impossible for this to work.

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Of course TC would not expect the payment because OP has red trust even without quickseller

legendary
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Well it seems Tomatocage in an unrelated occurence did remove Quickseller from depth 2 of DefaultTrust.

KoS, I believe you owe Tomatocage 2 BTC, even if he didn't remove Quickseller to fulfil your request.
legendary
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thats the most negative rep ive ever seen on any account ever

You have clearly not meet mr. TF yet.
He is still active here on the forum.
I believe he has -9999 with the current rating system.
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This offer is funny. So when i add Quickseller on my default trust list, can i earn an easy 2 BTC then? Cheesy I mean nothing would have changed to him and me, except that i would have 2 more Coins.

Business opportunites everywhere... though i dont expect that anyone would really spend that amount for such a little thing.
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Fitting as you all hate me over 2 BTC I'll do 2 BTC. You could keep it tomatocage or pay back Bigbitz since you always personally have believed I owe him or something. Anyways I want Quickseller off default trust. Badly.

You don't have 2BTC.  Ever since you guaranteed I'd be killed on my trip to Mexico, I've realized all your words are lies.   Roll Eyes


I told you multiple times Quickseller I have 3 alts remaining.

Tell him a million times if you want - a lie is still a lie.
I'll feed the troll for 5 minutes, take a look at my bitcoin address on file, in the last month alone its rec'd over 2 BTC. I can provide a couple other BTC addresses.

If you feel determined to prove that I can not put out 2 BTC within 24 hours to my name, I will gladly escrow up to said 2 BTC 1:1 wager with you using tomatocage as escrow. I can prove up to about 10-15 BTC right now so please feel free to test me. I would gladly earn some free BTC off you.

I will even instruct tomatocage to release all of the said BTC you lose in the bet to Bigbitz. If you would like to call my bluff like you think please do message me!
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Edit:do you want me to escrow for this?

I actually lol'd irl. Brilliant XD

But yeaaaah something about the whole "you can't add anyone to your DefaultTrust list for 180 days" seems like a baaaad idea...especially for someone on depth 1 of DefaultTrust, y'know? Then the whole bribery thing...
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That was a morning surprise to me.

@OP: TC won't accept this. Your negative feedback will stay there. If you repay 2BTC, your rating may decrease. Do what you need to.
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thats the most negative rep ive ever seen on any account ever

Prepare to be surprised
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=67058

Haha, you had to cite TF. At least he's still going by TF now - been changing his name every couple of weeks IIRC.

Fitting as you all hate me over 2 BTC I'll do 2 BTC. You could keep it tomatocage or pay back Bigbitz since you always personally have believed I owe him or something. Anyways I want Quickseller off default trust. Badly.

Payment will be released after 180 days of him being removed from your trust AND Quickseller NOT being on default trust from anyone else to prevent any "tricks" or "loopholes". Also, you are not allowed to add anyone else to your default trust list to prevent you adding one of Quickseller's alts back to default trust.

Not going to happen. First off if TC accepted it, it would just prove his judgement couldn't be trusted anyway (he'd be removed from DefaultTrust) and a majority of people do agree that QS should be on the default trust list.

Secondly, there is nothing to stop anyone else readding him anyway (not to mention have fun finding an escrow who'll hold an 180 day trade) which effectively makes it impossible for this to work.

Edit:do you want me to escrow for this?

And while I'm here. lol.
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