Tons of dust transactions from address "1mtgox..." what is this?

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 06, 2015, 12:04:42 AM

Quote from: tss on August 05, 2015, 11:50:39 PM

Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on August 05, 2015, 10:09:38 AM

bigger blocks. problem "solved".

NO!

first. bigger blocks are just as easy to fill. no one sending anything other than dust and pay proper tx fee will ever see any problem with small blocks. it makes the tx "real estate" more valuable thus raise btc/fiat value..

-snip-

/panic

No, actually they are not. A larger block is much more expensive to fill because of tx fees. Additionally, larger blocks will allow for any backlog that results of a spam attack to be cleared much more quickly.

spam is very cheap and almost free.

yes lets increase the amount of spam we can handle so that if my tx looks like it is spam it will still confirm.

i suggest we modernize the blockchain.. you know 2.0 and all.

increase blocksize. increase tx size. add all kind of code for contracts. make all fees 0. you bitcoin will be worth millions.

/sarcasm

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Quote from: tss on August 05, 2015, 11:50:39 PM

Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on August 05, 2015, 10:09:38 AM

bigger blocks. problem "solved".

NO!

first. bigger blocks are just as easy to fill. no one sending anything other than dust and pay proper tx fee will ever see any problem with small blocks. it makes the tx "real estate" more valuable thus raise btc/fiat value..

-snip-

/panic

No, actually they are not. A larger block is much more expensive to fill because of tx fees. Additionally, larger blocks will allow for any backlog that results of a spam attack to be cleared much more quickly.

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Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on August 05, 2015, 10:09:38 AM

bigger blocks. problem "solved".

NO!

first. bigger blocks are just as easy to fill. no one sending anything other than dust and pay proper tx fee will ever see any problem with small blocks. it makes the tx "real estate" more valuable thus raise btc/fiat value..

B. one day all that will be left for miners are fees and there are alot of miners working to secure your network. you should appreciate the value of your bitcoin protocol and NOT support spam tx without proper fees. it will make your bitcoin more valuable.

3. for tx you should always pay the proper fee for the network you are using. it is far superior, global, faster, and significantly cheaper. old coin and large amounts confirm pretty fast with no fee at all.

there is no problem

/panic

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Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on August 05, 2015, 10:09:38 AM

bigger blocks. problem "solved".

Wouldn't off-the-chain transactions for tiny micropayments solve this as well? Sure, in an ideal world 100% of the transactions should go through the blockchain, but why do transactions under 1 dollar need that? maybe our technology isn't ready for this just yet and we would benefit from off the chain transactions under 1 dollar, for example.

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Quote from: amaclin on August 05, 2015, 08:09:05 AM

Quote from: unamis76 on August 05, 2015, 07:53:26 AM

How are they merging the small outputs from spam attacks?
I tried spending some as mining fees and I couldn't, tried with Bitcoin Core and Armory.

You should spend less time on forum and instead of it improve your programming skills Grin

First thing I thought when I didn't manage to dump whatever I could to miner fees Cheesy

Then I realized these guys don't have anything that we don't have too and started reading about it Wink

... until I just let it go and kept paying high fees for my transactions.

Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on August 05, 2015, 10:09:38 AM

bigger blocks. problem "solved".

Well, that's true, bigger blocks will make these things way more expensive.

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Too many spammers since a month ago. Now you found 1 address. If only 1 address is doing this, it won't be a problem. Just input tx fees in your transaction Grin

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bigger blocks. problem "solved".

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2015, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Derrike on August 05, 2015, 04:19:18 AM

Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

I don't know but I'm getting fed up of it to be honest. How are we ever going to get taken seriously if this continues? I appreciate there was a need for stress testing but surely that's done now. This is just needless trolling. I think fees need to be increased slightly & all transactions with no fee refused, it may stop this then.

What's even more sad is complaining about it and begging for attackers to stop attacking. Do you think the traditional banking system isn't under constant attacks? everyone is trying to get money and this involves attacks. What we need is a stronger defense. When Bitcoin goes mainstream the attacks will be x1000000 times harder and more constant so we better figure out how to make them futile.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2015, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Derrike on August 05, 2015, 04:19:18 AM

Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

I don't know but I'm getting fed up of it to be honest. How are we ever going to get taken seriously if this continues? I appreciate there was a need for stress testing but surely that's done now. This is just needless trolling. I think fees need to be increased slightly & all transactions with no fee refused, it may stop this then.

Well we are offering a service, to the world at this moment, and everybody has a right to do as they want in my opinion! Now why are they doing this and what are they trying to achieve is another question, I don't know!

But if we don't like what are they doing, all that we can do is change the rules so we prevent these people. If we don't change these rules, I don't see anything from complaining.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2015, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Derrike on August 05, 2015, 04:19:18 AM

Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

I don't know but I'm getting fed up of it to be honest. How are we ever going to get taken seriously if this continues? I appreciate there was a need for stress testing but surely that's done now. This is just needless trolling. I think fees need to be increased slightly & all transactions with no fee refused, it may stop this then.

If you are not stingy with your transaction fees, there is no problem with spam like this.

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Quote from: Derrike on August 05, 2015, 04:19:18 AM

Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

I don't know but I'm getting fed up of it to be honest. How are we ever going to get taken seriously if this continues? I appreciate there was a need for stress testing but surely that's done now. This is just needless trolling. I think fees need to be increased slightly & all transactions with no fee refused, it may stop this then.

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Quote from: unamis76 on August 05, 2015, 07:53:26 AM

How are they merging the small outputs from spam attacks?
I tried spending some as mining fees and I couldn't, tried with Bitcoin Core and Armory.

You should spend less time on forum and instead of it improve your programming skills Grin

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How are they merging the small outputs from spam attacks? I tried spending some as mining fees and I couldn't, tried with Bitcoin Core and Armory.

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Quote from: Possum577 on August 05, 2015, 12:19:59 AM

This is weird. The transactions keep coming too, for about the same amount. But it looks like the address is paying itself - I'm sure I'm not reading the site correctly, what am I missing? How do we know where the transactions from this 1mtgox address are going?

How did you stumble on this?

I saw this too myself yesterday, it was all over the place in blockchain.info's frontpage due the volume of the constant microtransactions. Seems definitely like an attack.

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Quote from: okae on August 05, 2015, 06:58:21 AM

Quote from: Derrike on August 05, 2015, 04:19:18 AM

Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

maybe thats exatly what they want to made some spam, dunno something like stress the blockchain or just free publicity? or maybe this is something related with teh recent news about Mark Karpeles.

in any case is not good for all.

Now someone has demonstrated it's possible to attack the network with spam there will be endless new spam attacks because people often like to copy things others have done. The first attacks might have been to highlight the need to change Bitcoin to allow it to scale, but there will be new attacks that are purely malicious because you always get a few bad apples.

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Quote from: Derrike on August 05, 2015, 04:19:18 AM

Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

maybe thats exatly what they want to made some spam, dunno something like stress the blockchain or just free publicity? or maybe this is something related with teh recent news about Mark Karpeles.

in any case is not good for all.

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Quote from: neurotypical on August 04, 2015, 08:14:35 PM

https://blockchain.info/address/1mtgoxNrDZgrs6zP1MdEToSNTAeeeU2VH

Anyone saw this too? seems like a serious spam attack, it doesn't stop showing up new transactions.

There are a number of accounts doing this.
For example https://blockchain.info/address/155M7TvBRww6WFdtGQgTYUH8DuLheNafCf
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Quote from: erre on August 05, 2015, 03:25:07 AM

Quote from: neurotypical on August 04, 2015, 08:14:35 PM

https://blockchain.info/address/1mtgoxNrDZgrs6zP1MdEToSNTAeeeU2VH

Anyone saw this too? seems like a serious spam attack, it doesn't stop showing up new transactions.

That's weird indeed. ..I can not get the objective...

There is no objective except to emphasize the address of 1mtgoxNrDZgrs6zP1MdEToSNTAeeeU2VH and probably to celebrate the arrest of Mark Karpeles?

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Why are these people spamming the network?

Everything was fine for around 20 days and again this is happening.

erre

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Quote from: neurotypical on August 04, 2015, 08:14:35 PM

https://blockchain.info/address/1mtgoxNrDZgrs6zP1MdEToSNTAeeeU2VH

Anyone saw this too? seems like a serious spam attack, it doesn't stop showing up new transactions.

That's weird indeed. ..I can not get the objective...

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