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Topic: Too late for joining Bitcoin, which altcoin is best? - page 3. (Read 5478 times)

legendary
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Guys, bnrrpayments is a classic example of a Class B bitcoin troll. The recommended response when encountering such trolls in the wild is to agree with everything they say in a satirical way.  Normally they can't detect the satire and sink their own ship.  

For your review:

A Taxonomy of the Troll

Class C bitcoin troll (lat. trollus minimus):

-How to recognize: Simple-minded FUD spreading, and juvenile insults.  

-Recommended response: ignore, their trolling is obvious to everyone and occasionally humorous.  

-Examples: Walsoraj, Fonzie

Class B bitcoin troll (lat.  trollus averagus)

-How to recognize: bait-and-switch thread titles (like this) to get the reader sucked into thinking the troll is a non-troll.  

-Recommended response: agree with everything they say in a satirical way.  Their arguments are usually so flawed that simple rephrasing back what they said will reveal their lunacy.  This technique is especially effective if the troll doesn't recognize this attack vector until he's already sunken his ship.

-Examples: ElectricMucus, Revans

Class A bitcoin troll (lat. trollus maximus)

-How to recognize: usually hold an esteemed position or a PhD.  

-Recommended response: Engage in logical and polite debate.  These are the most difficult trolls to defeat, so you must be patient.  The truth will prevail.  

-Examples: Paul Krugman, Richard Murphy
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

Until the day that people will be fed up of being fucked in the ass and realize there is alternatives

The masses will figure it out sooner or later...most people just like to live in denial, and find peace of mind in thinking that their government is looking out for them.   In the bottom of their heart, they know that is not the case...
The masses are horribly lazy. It's takes incomparably less effort to remain in denial than to work toward restructuring the system or even do anything at all for that matter.

Well you should take notes on what is happening right now in Cyprus almost a year after the bails-in

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4911291
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/speculative/#.UvMOb7SJJ64 starting at 13min
http://www.neo-bee.com/
This is happening worldwide yet the masses won't lift a finger unless and until the whole thing completely goes bust. Good luck waiting for that to happen.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.

And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto?
They might have each their own national crypto just as well, with all sorts of country-specific regulations and variations.

You cannot create a national crypto. the internet is borderless. If you are talking about a centralised national crypto, well there is nothing special about that idea.

A specific government's recognition and support will make it appealing to the masses, and that's what will make it very special.

Don't you "pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands"? Because the masses fucking do.

yeah just like the system we have now. everyone loves that system....
A national centralised currency will change nothing. bitcoin can bring down that system.
I dont pledge alliance to any flag especially the USA.....
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
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Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

Until the day that people will be fed up of being fucked in the ass and realize there is alternatives

The masses will figure it out sooner or later...most people just like to live in denial, and find peace of mind in thinking that their government is looking out for them.   In the bottom of their heart, they know that is not the case...
The masses are horribly lazy. It's takes incomparably less effort to remain in denial than to work toward restructuring the system or even do anything at all for that matter.

Well you should take notes on what is happening right now in Cyprus almost a year after the bails-in

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4911291
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/speculative/#.UvMOb7SJJ64 starting at 13min
http://www.neo-bee.com/
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.

And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto?
They might have each their own national crypto just as well, with all sorts of country-specific regulations and variations.

You cannot create a national crypto. the internet is borderless. If you are talking about a centralised national crypto, well there is nothing special about that idea.

A specific government's recognition and support will make it appealing to the masses, and that's what will make it very special.

Don't you "pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands"? Because the masses fucking do.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.

And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto?
They might have each their own national crypto just as well, with all sorts of country-specific regulations and variations.

You cannot create a national crypto. the internet is borderless. If you are talking about a centralised national crypto, well there is nothing special about that idea.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

Until the day that people will be fed up of being fucked in the ass and realize there is alternatives

The masses will figure it out sooner or later...most people just like to live in denial, and find peace of mind in thinking that their government is looking out for them.   In the bottom of their heart, they know that is not the case...
The masses are horribly lazy. It's takes incomparably less effort to remain in denial than to work toward restructuring the system or even do anything at all for that matter.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.

And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto?
They might have each their own national crypto just as well, with all sorts of country-specific regulations and variations.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1001
This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

Until the day that people will be fed up of being fucked in the ass and realize there is alternatives

The masses will figure it out sooner or later...most people just like to live in denial, and find peace of mind in thinking that their government is looking out for them.   In the bottom of their heart, they know that is not the case...
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Which number seems implausible to you?  The current world's population?  The number of bitcoins that will exist?  2.1E10 divided by 7E9?  Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?

Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is.  It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me.

If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system.
Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers.
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

The government dont have a choice. you cant beat maths with guns. they cant stop anybody owning and using a crypto graphic currency. The government also acknowledges that this technology is here to stay. they are not talking about centralised cryptos, they are talking about decentralised cryptos - and bitcoin is the front runner.
They have incentive to embrace bitcoin too, because they do not want it to be replaced by a crypto with a tumbled public ledger that will be harder to regulate.
If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.
you are talking binary - anything is possible.
bitcoin will expel only the corporate part of government. thats the bit that costs us the most, and the bit we need least.
Rome fell...... china fell...... USA will fall.....
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
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If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.

And how do you expect governments of the world to reach an agreements to launch a fully international crypto?
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
--------------->¿?
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

Until the day that people will be fed up of being fucked in the ass and realize there is alternatives
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Which number seems implausible to you?  The current world's population?  The number of bitcoins that will exist?  2.1E10 divided by 7E9?  Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?

Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is.  It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me.

If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system.
Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers.
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

The government dont have a choice. you cant beat maths with guns. they cant stop anybody owning and using a crypto graphic currency. The government also acknowledges that this technology is here to stay. they are not talking about centralised cryptos, they are talking about decentralised cryptos - and bitcoin is the front runner.
They have incentive to embrace bitcoin too, because they do not want it to be replaced by a crypto with a tumbled public ledger that will be harder to regulate.
If governments ever went with a crypto, they would first make damn sure it's under their full control and regulation or else they're no longer governing anything.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Which number seems implausible to you?  The current world's population?  The number of bitcoins that will exist?  2.1E10 divided by 7E9?  Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?

Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is.  It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me.

If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system.
Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers.
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

The government dont have a choice. you cant beat maths with guns. they cant stop anybody owning and using a crypto graphic currency. The government also acknowledges that this technology is here to stay. they are not talking about centralised cryptos, they are talking about decentralised cryptos - and bitcoin is the front runner.
They have incentive to embrace bitcoin too, because they do not want it to be replaced by a crypto with a tumbled public ledger that will be harder to regulate.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1007
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.

+1

Government is like a big warm hug when you're feeling down.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Which number seems implausible to you?  The current world's population?  The number of bitcoins that will exist?  2.1E10 divided by 7E9?  Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?

Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is.  It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me.

If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system.
Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers.
Governments will never give up their monopoly on money, and with the government bans, Bitcoin won't appeal to the masses. The masses find their comfort in governments and always turn to them for guidance, advice, and comfort.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1007
Whatever, I have my strong opinion and I'm not into arguing about its nature. It's nonetheless a lucrative object of speculation to me, and so are the altcoins. No one really needs them for payments - one can make payments with the more conventional tools in a lot more convenient way. Yet touting and speculating the hell out of it is the way to go.

Please send me dollars here: 1GZMd9ZsGxAQnHbtPAZYm1jHuxvtd2Mie

But you don't understand knight22: only money launderers, child pornographers, terrorists and libertarians would ever want to send money to a person over the internet.  Normal people are happy swiping their Visas and only dealing with big companies. 
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1028
Duelbits.com
Oh, one of those. Bitcoin is not a pyramid anything. It's not a ponzi either. Get your definitions straight, read up on how bitcoin works, come back in two weeks and present your findings.
I've been reading about Bitcoin for over half a year and have no slightest doubt about it being a pyramid scheme, along with all altcoins.

Why do you come to a bitcoin forum, call bitcoin a ponzi and then ask us for our good advice on which ponzi scheme is better? you are not speculating, you are gambling.

It's not a ponzi or a pyramid mate.....

Because he is butthurt for not being near the top of the pyramid Cheesy
Yes, true - that's why I seek those where I would be.

Good luck Smiley
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Oh, one of those. Bitcoin is not a pyramid anything. It's not a ponzi either. Get your definitions straight, read up on how bitcoin works, come back in two weeks and present your findings.
I've been reading about Bitcoin for over half a year and have no slightest doubt about it being a pyramid scheme, along with all altcoins.

Why do you come to a bitcoin forum, call bitcoin a ponzi and then ask us for our good advice on which ponzi scheme is better? you are not speculating, you are gambling.

It's not a ponzi or a pyramid mate.....
Whatever, I have my strong opinion and I'm not into arguing about its nature. It's nonetheless a lucrative object of speculation to me, and so are the altcoins. No one really needs them for payments - one can make payments with the more conventional tools in a lot more convenient way. Yet touting and speculating the hell out of it is the way to go.

If you did your research you would know that bitcoin has the potential to save firms billions of dollars in transaction fees and widen profit margins for large corporations. It is a billion dollar industry and eventually it will be more convenient and cheaper than using a credit card.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Which number seems implausible to you?  The current world's population?  The number of bitcoins that will exist?  2.1E10 divided by 7E9?  Cause they're pretty much facts, aren't they, unless I made an arithmetic error?

Sometimes I think the color of the sky seems implausible, especially at sunset, nevertheless it is what it is.  It hardly seems worth arguing that established facts seem implausible.
Bitcoin's eventual mass adoption is implausible to me.

If bitcoin doesnt appeal to the mainstream, then none will. Bitcoin is the friendliest decentralised currency to regulation. If you are asking for a centralised crypto like googlecoin. go for it. but that will be unacceptably vulnerable to attack, and prone to corruption like our current banking system.
Bitcoin can appeal to the mainstream, just leave that up to the software developers.
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