Tool or method for finding public key of Bitcoin address

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Quote from: digaran on January 08, 2024, 06:05:15 PM

Quote from: AH00RA on January 08, 2024, 05:42:54 PM

i don't know if there is anyone here who has solved one of Satoshi's puzzles or not.

but let us
suppose we can find the private key of a puzzle.
will this key be enough to import the btc in a new wallet (like Electrum)??

or, in addition to the private key, will a two-step verification or multi-signature or something like this, be required?

It depends on which puzzle you have solved, if it's 66, 67 then you won't succeed with electrum, you'd need to either have a bot that automatically double spends the tx or talk with a large mining pool to privately include your tx in a block, because once 66 or 67 start moving on chain and having their public keys revealed, it would take seconds for looters to brute force the public key for the private key just to double spend your transaction and loot for free.

But if it's 130, 135 etc, go ahead and use electrum with Tor.
There is no multi signature etc.

how is this possible?
does it happens with keys 65 ,64,63

can you tell me how to avoid this using electrum if it possible

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Quote from: digaran on November 16, 2023, 01:11:34 PM

Quote from: ecdsa123 on November 16, 2023, 12:31:57 PM

I have designed my own version in Sagemath + Python for find public key when we only knows "hash160 ripemd".

this is another solution but is not fast. and even when you will find , you only find one of 2**96 possibilites

Well all I can see is just talking, if you have a tool efficient in finding collisions then share it so we can judge it's performance, though I wonder why would you increase your search range like that? You'd probably never find a collision but searching in 66 bit range you will definitely find the key.

Quote from: AH00RA on November 16, 2023, 11:17:42 AM

ok.
brute forcing private keys of a btc ddress may take less than public keys but some codes need to work with pubkeys...
for example , keyhunt in bsgs mode, works faster than other tools in this case.
so this tool has an input file or single pubkey to work on it and find the privatekey .

Now for these puzzles (that have no output transactions) we have no pubkeys and we can not use bgsg mode of keyhunt.
is this correct ??

All the low range keys such as 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90 could be found fairly easily, e.g, if you had the public key for #66, it would take a minute considering you had a good gear using kangaroo, that's why they are all solved, now the biggest challenge next in line is #130, which will be solved probably in a few month from now.

Also note that when you are brute forcing to find rmd160, you are performing a sha256 + an rmd160 hashing with each iteration, so you'd get much less speed, but when you have a public key you can search much faster. But none of the existing tools are good enough, they are practically useless for high ranges.

Kangaroo and bsgs only work with public keys, both useless now.
Bitcrack vanitygen can search for address/rmd160, both useless now.
Don't waste time on addresses/rmd160, instead work on public key division.😉

hello Sir, I'm noob..just question how to find pub key? I just know to get that we must derivative from base58 => Ripe160 => sha256, I dont know if any method to find pubkey.. thank in advance

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Quote from: release on December 29, 2020, 07:00:10 AM

Hi guys. Just wandering if their is a tool, script or method for finding the uncompressed public key of Bitcoin address. I have heard that you can if an addressed has sent funds. I haven't got a clue on how to find this information. Thanks

Maybe this can help: https://github.com/Mezantrop74/addr2pub

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Quote from: release on December 29, 2020, 07:00:10 AM

Hi guys. Just wandering if their is a tool, script or method for finding the uncompressed public key of Bitcoin address. I have heard that you can if an addressed has sent funds. I haven't got a clue on how to find this information. Thanks

Check out my simple and fast blockchain parser.

With some clever regex, it should be a walk in the park to list all public keys that have been exposed when spending.

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Quote from: AH00RA on January 10, 2024, 06:46:33 PM

Thank you for the answer.

as i understood, if my target is #130 and i have the private key, at the same time as importing to my wallet, looters will also start working,
but considering the range of the private key that they want to brute force and the time they spend on it, definitely "My transaction will be confirmed sooner and they or other bots don't stand a chance.

is it correct?

Yes, for any keys above 100 bit range, once you solve it, you will be safe to send it to your own address because looters won't be able to solve the key in time.
Only the puzzle 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 72 up to 100 could be solved if their public keys were revealed. Easily.

Puzzles 130 and above are totally safe.

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Thank you for the answer.

as i understood, if my target is #130 and i have the private key, at the same time as importing to my wallet, looters will also start working,
but considering the range of the private key that they want to brute force and the time they spend on it, definitely "My transaction will be confirmed sooner and they or other bots don't stand a chance.

is it correct?

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Quote from: AH00RA on January 08, 2024, 05:42:54 PM

i don't know if there is anyone here who has solved one of Satoshi's puzzles or not.

but let us
suppose we can find the private key of a puzzle.
will this key be enough to import the btc in a new wallet (like Electrum)??

or, in addition to the private key, will a two-step verification or multi-signature or something like this, be required?

It depends on which puzzle you have solved, if it's 66, 67 then you won't succeed with electrum, you'd need to either have a bot that automatically double spends the tx or talk with a large mining pool to privately include your tx in a block, because once 66 or 67 start moving on chain and having their public keys revealed, it would take seconds for looters to brute force the public key for the private key just to double spend your transaction and loot for free.

But if it's 130, 135 etc, go ahead and use electrum with Tor.
There is no multi signature etc.

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i don't know if there is anyone here who has solved one of Satoshi's puzzles or not.

but let us
suppose we can find the private key of a puzzle.
will this key be enough to import the btc in a new wallet (like Electrum)??

or, in addition to the private key, will a two-step verification or multi-signature or something like this, be required?

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Quote from: digaran on November 16, 2023, 01:11:34 PM

Quote from: ecdsa123 on November 16, 2023, 12:31:57 PM

I have designed my own version in Sagemath + Python for find public key when we only knows "hash160 ripemd".

this is another solution but is not fast. and even when you will find , you only find one of 2**96 possibilites

Well all I can see is just talking, if you have a tool efficient in finding collisions then share it so we can judge it's performance, though I wonder why would you increase your search range like that? You'd probably never find a collision but searching in 66 bit range you will definitely find the key.

@Digaran -? my version is not efficient way for finding collisions. but it works because of math idea. and it is not for brute forcing -> need at worst 2** 57. so is huge.

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ok.
thank you for your response.
i will take a look if you share the source.

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Quote from: ecdsa123 on November 16, 2023, 12:31:57 PM

I have designed my own version in Sagemath + Python for find public key when we only knows "hash160 ripemd".

this is another solution but is not fast. and even when you will find , you only find one of 2**96 possibilites

Well all I can see is just talking, if you have a tool efficient in finding collisions then share it so we can judge it's performance, though I wonder why would you increase your search range like that? You'd probably never find a collision but searching in 66 bit range you will definitely find the key.

Quote from: AH00RA on November 16, 2023, 11:17:42 AM

ok.
brute forcing private keys of a btc ddress may take less than public keys but some codes need to work with pubkeys...
for example , keyhunt in bsgs mode, works faster than other tools in this case.
so this tool has an input file or single pubkey to work on it and find the privatekey .

Now for these puzzles (that have no output transactions) we have no pubkeys and we can not use bgsg mode of keyhunt.
is this correct ??

All the low range keys such as 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90 could be found fairly easily, e.g, if you had the public key for #66, it would take a minute considering you had a good gear using kangaroo, that's why they are all solved, now the biggest challenge next in line is #130, which will be solved probably in a few month from now.

Also note that when you are brute forcing to find rmd160, you are performing a sha256 + an rmd160 hashing with each iteration, so you'd get much less speed, but when you have a public key you can search much faster. But none of the existing tools are good enough, they are practically useless for high ranges.

Kangaroo and bsgs only work with public keys, both useless now.
Bitcrack vanitygen can search for address/rmd160, both useless now.
Don't waste time on addresses/rmd160, instead work on public key division.😉

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Quote from: AH00RA on November 16, 2023, 11:17:42 AM

ok.
brute forcing private keys of a btc ddress may take less than public keys but some codes need to work with pubkeys...
for example , keyhunt in bsgs mode, works faster than other tools in this case.
so this tool has an input file or single pubkey to work on it and find the privatekey .

Now for these puzzles (that have no output transactions) we have no pubkeys and we can not use bgsg mode of keyhunt.
is this correct ??

No. The answer is , yes you can try use BSGS in this example.

I have designed my own version in Sagemath + Python for find public key when we only knows "hash160 ripemd".

this is another solution but is not fast. and even when you will find , you only find one of 2**96 possibilites

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ok.
brute forcing private keys of a btc ddress may take less than public keys but some codes need to work with pubkeys...
for example , keyhunt in bsgs mode, works faster than other tools in this case.
so this tool has an input file or single pubkey to work on it and find the privatekey .

Now for these puzzles (that have no output transactions) we have no pubkeys and we can not use bgsg mode of keyhunt.
is this correct ??

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Quote from: AH00RA on November 14, 2023, 10:42:36 PM

if we have only HASH160 then How to findout publickey (comprssd or uncomprssd) for that address ??

Since hash algorithms are irreversible, it is not possible to compute the message (public key in case of the output script you posted) from the hash digest.

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Quote from: AH00RA on November 14, 2023, 10:42:36 PM

thanks for your response.

if we have a transaction like this :
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/13zb1hQbWVsc2S7ZTZnP2G4undNNpdh5so

then we have just input in this wallet address but we do not see any output from wallet,
so we can not gain any 130 or 66 character pubkey from sigscript.

we have only pkscript like this :
Pkscript
OP_DUP
OP_HASH160
20d45a6a762535700ce9e0b216e31994335db8a5
OP_EQUALVERIFY
OP_CHECKSIG

i want to ask you ,
if we have only HASH160 then How to findout publickey (comprssd or uncomprssd) for that address ??

Well, a bite that big might choke you, first you need to grow some teeth before starting to chew. 😉

If you haven't figured out how these puzzles and in general Bitcoin works, whatever you are attempting is not going to work.
Now to answer your question, if an address has any output( sending out) then you can derive the public key by going to this site called Bitcointools.site in there you can insert address and if that address has any spent transaction recorded on block chain, it will show it to you.

Technically though, the only way to find that address's public key aka puzzle #66, you either brute force to find the private key or you'd try to break 2 hash functions to get the "public key". To reverse 2 hash functions, you'd need to at least brute force 2^81 different hashes, but brute forcing for private key would only take a maximum 2^66 key generation processes.

If by any chance you are from middle east, you might find your native language topic here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=11.0

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thanks for your response.

if we have a transaction like this :
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/13zb1hQbWVsc2S7ZTZnP2G4undNNpdh5so

then we have just input in this wallet address but we do not see any output from wallet,
so we can not gain any 130 or 66 character pubkey from sigscript.

we have only pkscript like this :
Pkscript
OP_DUP
OP_HASH160
20d45a6a762535700ce9e0b216e31994335db8a5
OP_EQUALVERIFY
OP_CHECKSIG

i want to ask you ,
if we have only HASH160 then How to findout publickey (comprssd or uncomprssd) for that address ??

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Quote from: release on December 31, 2020, 01:37:58 AM

Thanks that helps. The issue I am still having is that when a address sends btc and I look at the scriptsig and extract the last 130 hex characters and enter it it the tools suggested in this thread it doesn't have any relation to the address or it's an invalid public key.

As a worked example... have a look at this recent tranasction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/bee2768770f68a31543eda6fd40da75e4432f434cf8c3312497cdeebb4a2ac6c

If we look at the sigscript:

Code:

47304402200c794238b992fbdda63b1606edc07c5b48a29e003e7cf9d4894baa7baf3b063b022012ed8593d439dc05e3639d60434028e8b0a2207a139ec58bf5e719e019f09485012102ebb666614f5faff4aa43e5f1be868ebc5f1be67c8553924410d8d0111a9912d2

Firstly we try the final 130 chars:

Code:

8593d439dc05e3639d60434028e8b0a2207a139ec58bf5e719e019f09485012102ebb666614f5faff4aa43e5f1be868ebc5f1be67c8553924410d8d0111a9912d2

Doesn't begin with "04", so it's not an uncompressed key... not surprising, given that it is a relatively recent transaction and most legacy addresses used today will be using "compressed" keys.

Then we try the final 66:

Code:

02ebb666614f5faff4aa43e5f1be868ebc5f1be67c8553924410d8d0111a9912d2

"02", so it's likely a compressed public key... if we put that into the Address tool I listed earlier, we can see it outputs:

Which matches the bitcoin address from the transaction:

NOTE: This tool was not designed for "compressed" keys... it will complain that it has an "invalid public key length":

But it will still generate the correct address.

Now, let's look at this much older transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b9d69463c500b81dc2ff600d0b528b15fb816c4dab11e424151de0bcbea7f26f

The sigscript of the first input is:

Code:

473044022018c35ebde490ca56f6d073a20ec3199f461ee9c99d2c020fdecd8711bdb9cc5802205fd0ce0f61ee2566cafd4254bc1d34a4fcf02d2a55c281a0a95a8c332bff2443014104f52193d56ffda6ef5fbc3b4ada7768c347321f47f1a999b0ca9b8374d8228275ee2c1ecf45c718538288667ad367f97a00116bd0630c76cc01f26161ce70057a

The last 130 chars are:

Code:

04f52193d56ffda6ef5fbc3b4ada7768c347321f47f1a999b0ca9b8374d8228275ee2c1ecf45c718538288667ad367f97a00116bd0630c76cc01f26161ce70057a

Starts with 04... quite likely an uncompressed public key... So, feeding that into the tool:

And we can see the address checks out:

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You will continue being confused and will face new problems any time you see a different transaction from the last one you saw when you jump in at the middle instead of starting at the beginning!
You should start by first understanding the structure of a transaction (https://developer.bitcoin.org/reference/transactions.html#raw-transaction-format) then follow it up by learning how bitcoin scripts work (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script) and finally start looking at transactions to try and find the public keys in them.

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Quote from: release on December 31, 2020, 01:37:58 AM

The issue I am still having is that when a address sends btc and I look at the scriptsig and extract the last 130 hex characters and enter it it the tools suggested in this thread it doesn't have any relation to the address or it's an invalid public key.

Are you sure that it's an uncompressed key? Is it a bech32 or other forms of address type? Most of the keys are compressed public keys and you'll be looking at 66 hex characters or 33 bytes. Could you give an example of the transaction in question?

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Thanks that helps. The issue I am still having is that when a address sends btc and I look at the scriptsig and extract the last 130 hex characters and enter it it the tools suggested in this thread it doesn't have any relation to the address or it's an invalid public key.

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