Topic: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT - page 37. (Read 157137 times)

The idea behind Classic is useless at the moment. Why would someone opt for a solution that does something in a certain way, when there's a solution (segwit) that does it in a much better way and comes with additional benefits? It does seem like we can't really take a break from the drama. Seems like the community constantly jumps from one thing to another.

Next drama in sight... because bitcoin isnt funny without fud and division.


http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-12


So to be precise, the hard fork plan is only to reassure "the-throwing-VC-money-and-bossing-around-industry" control freaks that they can manage it.

We don't need to weigh ourselves down with all the mumbo jumbo baloney arguments about how Wright could be Satoshi - because that kind of pursuit remains a big ass waste of time.

I'm not trying to be dismissive of the whole idea, but really it is just a ridiculous waste of time, and I believe that I already made several of my own observations and arguments regarding the case.. and why repeat those arguments?

The main argument is that there a lot of easy ways that Craig Wright would be able to prove that he is Satoshi, if he really were, and he is simply not engaging in any of those straight forward proofs.

Unless there is some new proof, I find it a bad use of our time and our brain power to consider such distractions... so let's move on.

Don't stop reading there. I meant this part:

"Fallacist’s Fallacy : this fallacy involves rejecting an idea as false simply because the argument offered for it is fallacious."

Read this JJG: http://blog.earthbenign.com/post/143966444120/dr-craig-wright-very-well-could-be-satoshi

Why does every supposedly curious detail need to be explained, when there is more convincing evidence that CSW is a con artist?

Yeah, maybe some kind of follow-up is going to take place and further attempts at conning and/or achieving other unknown, mysterious and ulterior motives - yet in the meantime, why do we need to be preoccupied with such baloney attempts at drama.

The main points that we have likely learned from this is that Gavin is either very gullible or somehow malicious to align himself in such crazy drama, and there are others too who have been highlighted as easily partisan and without reason to be attempting to pursue such baloney con artist plots.

Yes, the mainstream media loves this kind of drama, whether true or not, so they are very ripe recipients to keep stories like this going, even if it takes several months before it rears its head again... no matter how preposterous it is.   

Here in the Kore Ekko Khchamber, the obvious answer is that Gavin is simultaneously:
a) duped, as he is the stupidest person who ever figured out how to make a transaction; and
b) lying, because he needs to make a case for 320 GB blocks - like rightfuckingnow - and will breach any ethic to do so
...take your pick.

I personally don't think the last card has been played.

We shall see.

What is it?

How do you account for the fact that CSW was able to sign a message from block 1 for Gavin? Have we explained that part away yet? How?

Per aspera ad astra

Agreed!!!!!

Some of this was good for bitcoin to go through some of this, and to come out stronger, and hopefully recognizing various potential coupe attempts without going along with the various bullshit fakeries.

I think today on the interwebs a full spectrum strategy is followed, whereby you have people "advocating the most indefensible actions/opinions" all the way up to very subtle subversion. Gavinistas would be somewhere in the middle. The idea is to generate an appearance of chaos and confusion, as with the "no planes"/"TV fakery" 9/11 disinfo. The good thing in cryptoland is that it doesn't matter what tactics they come up with or how many "Trusts" (TBF etc) they set up, cuz decentralization!

 

Meh if only they'd try harder, so it would make bitcoin stronger..

In the 60s-80s, the FBI (and SJW orgs like SPLC) used their mob ties and War On Drugs police state tactics to break up the KKK.

Then they needed a bigger budget new enemy, so the Remnant of anti-centralized authoritarianism Federalists (running the gamut from JBS reactionaries to Libertarians) was put in the crosshairs.

The old joke about everyone you meet at a Klan rally being an undercover informant became a new joke called "spot the fed."  After all, what good is an Elohim City without an Andreas Strassmeir there to stir the pot?

This background may help establish a pattern and practice relevant to explaining the mysterious preponderance of Full Time Professional Libertarians in the Gavinista (IE Craig Wrightist) movement.

One way to spot the Fed is to look at who is advocating the most indefensible actions/opinions.  EG, Olivier J making the neo-nationalist/anti-transnationalist movement appear foolish and bigoted by drunkenly ranting about Evil Mooooslums.

The professional infiltrators/agitators usually seek leadership positions in existing and self-created governance structures, so they can make lists of subversives.  EG, The Bitcoin Foundation.

It appears the nefarious nexus you are looking for exists mostly among the less technical/more political wing of the Bitcoin world (Gavin and Ian Grigg notwithstanding).

Another red flag warning is association with Cato Institute, a quasi-libertarian think tank with petrodollar/neocon foreign policy leanings often pointedly referred to as "Stato" by the antiwar.com types of the Constitutional conservative right.

And right on cue, we find a State-O Institute functionary Jim Harper breathlessly scolding Team Core for no very good reason:

https://twitter.com/Jim_Harper/status/725389920387387392

Perhaps Kyle Torpley will file some FOIA requests and get to the bottom of this rabbit hole.

EDIT: https://twitter.com/bergalex/status/688426920330027009

You may be correct that a lot of discrediting of the stupid-ass shit may come together with some of this unravelling of Craig Wright. 

His credentialing is just annoying, because there seems to be no there, there... so I tend to believe that he identified some tendencies in the community, rather than building followers.....

Just like Wright, there is no there, there with XT and Classic.   When I first began to consider the potential merits of XT and Classic, I considered giving the benefit of the doubt because on the surface there is some sense to it, but when you get down to the changes in governance and the hidden agenda that seems to cause easy implementation of changes, hard forks, blocksize limit increases, etc, then I began to realize how much bullshit there was in XT and Classic... and the same seems to be true with Wright.. that he may superficially seem like he may know about what he speaks, but his constant credentialing should cause people to recognize that there is little substance beyond the attempts at credentialing.

They had some major shit-stirring in the works but ended up screwing up (again) somehow by accident. So this stooge Wright had to back out and now they all have deserved egg on their faces.