Using your mod privileges to broadcast false statement about particular member. - My subjective opinion you are in the wrong.
Did I ever say that all board members are pirates?
Who the fuck are you to broadcast public (and false mind you) statements in my name?
Your action was clear and deliberate insult, supported even further with your jokes afterwards. For a mod - it is way out of line.
Topic: Topic title change (Read 3183 times)
who the fuck cares about upsetting you? are you dumb?
here are some facts:
You made a bad title, i should say not out of your best intentions
here are some facts:
You made a bad title, i should say not out of your best intentions
Whether a title is 'bad' or not is a subjective opinion, not a fact.
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You've been pointed out that it was wrong numerous times
Only by yourself, who held such an opinion.
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You kept laughing it off, effectively derailing the thread because it was fun to you also trying to blame me that i derailed it - if you acted quickly fixing your error, there would not be all of this debate.
It was literally impossible for me to have acted quickly enough to have satisfied you.
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You can't admit that what you did was wrong much less be a man enough to apologize for your action and keep bringing bunch of irrelevant arguments instead.
If I agreed that I had done something wrong, I would apologize for it. I simply changed to title to reflect my impressions of the thread as concisely as I could think of. And I still believe that it was an accurate assessment of your perspectives, even if you never literally said as much.
who the fuck cares about upsetting you? are you dumb?
here are some facts:
You made a bad title, i should say not out of your best intentions
You've been pointed out that it was wrong numerous times
You kept laughing it off, effectively derailing the thread because it was fun to you also trying to blame me that i derailed it - if you acted quickly fixing your error, there would not be all of this debate.
You can't admit that what you did was wrong much less be a man enough to apologize for your action and keep bringing bunch of irrelevant arguments instead.
here are some facts:
You made a bad title, i should say not out of your best intentions
You've been pointed out that it was wrong numerous times
You kept laughing it off, effectively derailing the thread because it was fun to you also trying to blame me that i derailed it - if you acted quickly fixing your error, there would not be all of this debate.
You can't admit that what you did was wrong much less be a man enough to apologize for your action and keep bringing bunch of irrelevant arguments instead.
I doubt you could create a thread title that would upset me, that wouldn't get deleted by some other mod first. I would either refute the title, or ignore you. It's not easy to upset me, so I can't really relate to those who are easily offended.
It was incorrect, but all he did was change a topic title. Andrew Bitcoiner could have changed the title back at any time. It's not a big deal.
it's not a big deal when it doesn't effect you directly. i got that.
bet it would be whole different story if false statement was put in topic about you or moonshadow without your ability to fix it and whoever did that and can fix it just ignores you while making runaround jokes about it.
It was incorrect, but all he did was change a topic title. Andrew Bitcoiner could have changed the title back at any time. It's not a big deal.
No moderator should ever change a title to place any blame on a user. Since by definition these threads are opinion-based, placing "thinks" or "says" next a a user's name is stating that the argument is less strong than its reverse. MoonShadow would not have changed a thread to "MoonShadow says piracy is good", so it does not make sense to change Serge's thread in that manner.
Rather, these threads should be named "Piracy is bad", "piracy is good", "piracy is not copying", etc.
I agree completely with you on that. Unless a thread is about someone, they shouldn't be mentioned in the topic's subject line. But again, he tried soliciting new names for the thread, and none were given. You can't blame him for that.Rather, these threads should be named "Piracy is bad", "piracy is good", "piracy is not copying", etc.
this is exactly what this is about. mOONsHADOW acted irresponsibly and childishly. he disregarded various requests to take away false claims he made as though they are mine using his mod privileges.
and what's even worse and more saddening is board admin/s didn't find anything wrong with that and acted like it is all good on mod's part. this is not some ghetto irc where such behavior may be encouraged by the adolescent peers.
(forgot to add this to my last post)
As for him being disrespectful and making jokes, as long as it doesn't effect his moderating, he is entitled to express his personal opinions on this forum. You'll notice that none of your posts, nor the original thread, were ever deleted.
As for him being disrespectful and making jokes, as long as it doesn't effect his moderating, he is entitled to express his personal opinions on this forum. You'll notice that none of your posts, nor the original thread, were ever deleted.
No moderator should ever change a title to place any blame on a user. Since by definition these threads are opinion-based, placing "thinks" or "says" next a a user's name is stating that the argument is less strong than its reverse. MoonShadow would not have changed a thread to "MoonShadow says piracy is good", so it does not make sense to change Serge's thread in that manner.
Rather, these threads should be named "Piracy is bad", "piracy is good", "piracy is not copying", etc.
I agree completely with you on that. Unless a thread is about someone, they shouldn't be mentioned in the topic's subject line. But again, he tried soliciting new names for the thread, and none were given. You can't blame him for that. Rather, these threads should be named "Piracy is bad", "piracy is good", "piracy is not copying", etc.
No moderator should ever change a title to place any blame on a user. Since by definition these threads are opinion-based, placing "thinks" or "says" next a a user's name is stating that the argument is less strong than its reverse. MoonShadow would not have changed a thread to "MoonShadow says piracy is good", so it does not make sense to change Serge's thread in that manner.
Rather, these threads should be named "Piracy is bad", "piracy is good", "piracy is not copying", etc.
Rather, these threads should be named "Piracy is bad", "piracy is good", "piracy is not copying", etc.
MoonShadow failed as a fair Mod after he decided to change another thread topic with statement make sound like coming from me that I haven't said, then failed to recognize what he did was wrong while acting disrespectfully and making jokes about it.
No, the failure wasn't his - it was ours (the other mods). We should have been online to help him out by providing an unbiased view to the topic, as he alludes to here:I hotlinked this tread into the staff/mod section hours ago, and no one has come to your defense. I'm not entirely sure why you believe that you have a grievence, nor do I believe that the title that I chose misrepresents this thread. This has been going on all day now, and you still have not offered an alternative title, nor apparently were willing (or able, perhaps) to get another mod to change/delete anything.
The fact that he asked for this help, and none was quickly provided, shows that he did exactly what a fair mod should do.Sorry about that.
MoonShadow failed as a fair Mod after he decided to change another thread topic with statement make sound like coming from me that I haven't said, then failed to recognize what he did was wrong while acting disrespectfully and making jokes about it.
It wasn't very clean, but I think I did a decent job splitting that thread.
Uhh... MoonShadow? If the OP matches the title, but the discussion doesn't, you split the discussion. Yes, even if that only leaves the original thread with one post. If you can't figure out a good title for the split, just leave the default. In my opinion, the only time you should should be changing a title, other than the typical administrative reasons, is if the title doesn't even match the OP.
and btw topic stays as it was unchanged meaning you still don't recognize what you did was wrong as a mod!
i don't give %#$# about your interests and after that thread would tell to your face to go fuck yourself if we met.
i don't give %#$# about your interests and after that thread would tell to your face to go fuck yourself if we met.
Okay, whatever Serge, I've lost interest in you.
i'm not interested in making any title suggestions, i was fine with what was originally, if you felt the title needed to be changed - all fine, until you decided to put words in my mouth and edit original thread topic with it.
I pointed out it was unfair act on your part being a mod here, I didn't ask for thread deletion as you tried to hint as i voluntarily participated in discussion, all i asked for was to remove false statement as it didn't come out of my mouth like you made it sound like in the topic.
you kept disrespecting me and joking around it due to some principle which prohibits you to recognize when you are at fault.
I pointed out it was unfair act on your part being a mod here, I didn't ask for thread deletion as you tried to hint as i voluntarily participated in discussion, all i asked for was to remove false statement as it didn't come out of my mouth like you made it sound like in the topic.
you kept disrespecting me and joking around it due to some principle which prohibits you to recognize when you are at fault.
a mod should not make judgment calls in moderation due to his personal disagreements with other users.
I didn't make a judgement call based upon my personal disagreement with you, or anyone else. I can think that you are full of crap and still not hold it against you. I'm not emotionly invested in this thread even now, but you get one (factually supportable) 'hipocrite' and you're bent. I hotlinked this tread into the staff/mod section hours ago, and no one has come to your defense. I'm not entirely sure why you believe that you have a grievence, nor do I believe that the title that I chose misrepresents this thread. This has been going on all day now, and you still have not offered an alternative title, nor apparently were willing (or able, perhaps) to get another mod to change/delete anything.
EDIT: Well, somebody did change the title, to a particularly relevant one at that.
a mod should not make judgment calls in moderation due to his personal disagreements with other users.
think he would feel fine if I created a thread with false statement in topic as though it was his words? would you feel fine if same was done to you?
- i'm certain he would have edited/deleted it or even banned me for such act. ALL I ask is to remove my name with false staement next to it in the topic. am I unreasonable here?
I said what i said and i stand by my words, i don't have a problem with difference of opinions. What I have problem with is when a mod (global mod for that matter) puts false statement next to my nick/name as it was my own. - you don't find anything wrong with that, CornedBeefHash ?
think he would feel fine if I created a thread with false statement in topic as though it was his words? would you feel fine if same was done to you?
- i'm certain he would have edited/deleted it or even banned me for such act. ALL I ask is to remove my name with false staement next to it in the topic. am I unreasonable here?
I said what i said and i stand by my words, i don't have a problem with difference of opinions. What I have problem with is when a mod (global mod for that matter) puts false statement next to my nick/name as it was my own. - you don't find anything wrong with that, CornedBeefHash ?
MoonShadow, you have proven to have no integrity as a mod right in this thread.
and why would i want to support financially childish act of a global moderator? stick to your principles, treat your members unfairly attack them with false claims and watch donations dry out.
you failed too many times just in this one single thread alone.
and why would i want to support financially childish act of a global moderator? stick to your principles, treat your members unfairly attack them with false claims and watch donations dry out.
you failed too many times just in this one single thread alone.
I have donated money to this forum before. I was considering donating more in the future. Because of one mod's childish attack on me utilizing his mod privileges by making false statements as though they are mine I won't be able to support such action financially in the future.
I suggest Admins of this board to cleanup their Mod's act . Your mod is running on principle that is damaging reputation and integrity of this place.
I suggest Admins of this board to cleanup their Mod's act . Your mod is running on principle that is damaging reputation and integrity of this place.
I'm actually laughing, now. This is akin to some rich guy complaining about a cop who pulls him over for swerving, because he pays his salary.
Keep impuning my integrity, and see what kind of "justice" you get from the other mods. I'm just going to watch.
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