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Topic: Total hashrate falls considerably - page 3. (Read 4584 times)

legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1001
August 04, 2011, 03:11:25 PM
#18

Unfortunately I know some people who invested in tens of new cards just in the past month.


Yea thats just insanity.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 04, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
#17
Can you imagine being a person who made a large investment making the assumption that
BTC would be around 15-20? In my opinion that was truly a poor decision. I would have done
that math based on a price of 5-7 and that would still have been pushing it a bit far with pricing.
Plus I work for an ISP and do not have to pay for electricity and cooling in the data center (thank
you very much kind owner).

Same here, I figured it wasn't going to be profitable to invest in new hardware as I expected it would likely slide to 8~10 before 3 months' up.

Unfortunately I know some people who invested in tens of new cards just in the past month.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 04, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
#16
and how is total network hashrate calculated? Wink

it calculates by the speed of produced blocks, so if the network is more lucky overall, you will see total network's hashrate higher than it actually is.  

My bad, I assumed they actually monitored all the major pools and estimated from there. Turns out they are just estimating from the number of blocks found. Which is then badly affected by changes in difficulty.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
August 04, 2011, 02:46:23 PM
#15
Good!  During the summer, I'm only profitable starting at $7/coin with the current difficulty.  I need some difficulty droppage here!
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
August 04, 2011, 02:43:50 PM
#14
Can you imagine being a person who made a large investment making the assumption that
BTC would be around 15-20? In my opinion that was truly a poor decision. I would have done
that math based on a price of 5-7 and that would still have been pushing it a bit far with pricing.
Plus I work for an ISP and do not have to pay for electricity and cooling in the data center (thank
you very much kind owner).

I put about 2000 dollars into hardware that gets me about 2450 mh/s. And some of that money
was buying higher quality parts to replace an aging computer at home once I am done with mining.
Two computers were bought used for 400 each that contains two 5830s that I have overclocked
ridiculously to get 620 mh/s out of them per box. The other nicer setup contains 2 reference 6950s
and 1 used 5850 doing 1240 mh/s. All over clocked to the nuts.

Since June, about the 12th I was starting to get setup with the first box. I realized this could make some
money with the high BTC price and still somewhat low difficulty level. I quickly found a person in my state
getting out of bitcoin mining and bought two of his rigs used. The sooner the boxes were running for me
the better. Delaying was money lost obviously.

So.. here I am today and have made about 1050 dollars and some change (BTC). I have pretty much paid
off my new rig that will replace the one at home if I sell the rest of my BTC. The other two machines have
not even started being paid off yet. Naturally I could sell them for about 400 each and break even but I
will still plug along due to no elect/cooling costs.

BUT.. if I had to pay for elect/cooling this quickly makes less and less sense to do. My state's elect cost
at home is higher on average, it is pretty darn hot out right now so cooling would be nonstop, and watching
over these 3 boxes takes more effort then 40+ freebsd servers (go figure).

So to get back on topic of my first paragraph.. the people who made large investments and have large bills
to pay must be crapping their pants. The ROI just keeps getting further and further away and difficulty will
not fall that much in my opinion. So what you make back in more BTC will probably be eroded by a falling
price for the rest of the year (my opinion).

Nice conclusion.

+1
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1001
August 04, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
#13
Can you imagine being a person who made a large investment making the assumption that
BTC would be around 15-20? In my opinion that was truly a poor decision. I would have done
that math based on a price of 5-7 and that would still have been pushing it a bit far with pricing.
Plus I work for an ISP and do not have to pay for electricity and cooling in the data center (thank
you very much kind owner).

I put about 2000 dollars into hardware that gets me about 2450 mh/s. And some of that money
was buying higher quality parts to replace an aging computer at home once I am done with mining.
Two computers were bought used for 400 each that contains two 5830s that I have overclocked
ridiculously to get 620 mh/s out of them per box. The other nicer setup contains 2 reference 6950s
and 1 used 5850 doing 1240 mh/s. All over clocked to the nuts.

Since June, about the 12th I was starting to get setup with the first box. I realized this could make some
money with the high BTC price and still somewhat low difficulty level. I quickly found a person in my state
getting out of bitcoin mining and bought two of his rigs used. The sooner the boxes were running for me
the better. Delaying was money lost obviously.

So.. here I am today and have made about 1050 dollars and some change (BTC). I have pretty much paid
off my new rig that will replace the one at home if I sell the rest of my BTC. The other two machines have
not even started being paid off yet. Naturally I could sell them for about 400 each and break even but I
will still plug along due to no elect/cooling costs.

BUT.. if I had to pay for elect/cooling this quickly makes less and less sense to do. My state's elect cost
at home is higher on average, it is pretty darn hot out right now so cooling would be nonstop, and watching
over these 3 boxes takes more effort then 40+ freebsd servers (go figure).

So to get back on topic of my first paragraph.. the people who made large investments and have large bills
to pay must be crapping their pants. The ROI just keeps getting further and further away and difficulty will
not fall that much in my opinion. So what you make back in more BTC will probably be eroded by a falling
price for the rest of the year (my opinion).
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
August 04, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
#12
maybe it was just a luck factor?

Luck affects blocks found, not the total network hashrate.


and how is total network hashrate calculated? Wink

it calculates by the speed of produced blocks, so if the network is more lucky overall, you will see total network's hashrate higher than it actually is.  
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
August 04, 2011, 02:34:39 PM
#11
Doesn't the total hashrate on BitcoinWatch usually fluctuate by that much anyway? I'm pretty sure people have mentioned it before and it has jumped all over the place.

Another note, DeepBit seems to have gone up by 100ghash/s in the last day Tongue
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 04, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
#9
maybe it was just a luck factor?

Luck affects blocks found, not the total network hashrate.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 04, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
#7
not many WTS hardware in the marketplace section

The current price and difficulty may mean it's not operationally profitable due to electrical costs in some areas. But it doesn't mean all miners will dump their hardware immediately. Those who expect prices to go up again may continue or just rest their rig until difficulty drops and/or prices swing up.

or maybe they switched to mining namecoin Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
August 04, 2011, 02:30:58 PM
#6
not many WTS hardware in the marketplace section

Still, we have lost 3 TH/s since yesterday. No small amount of power...

maybe it was just a luck factor?
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
August 04, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
#5
From where are you getting your data?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
August 04, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
#4
not many WTS hardware in the marketplace section

Still, we have lost 3 TH/s since yesterday. No small amount of power...
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
August 04, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
#3
not many WTS hardware in the marketplace section
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
August 04, 2011, 02:23:55 PM
#2
And difficulty factor growth slows down. Seems that people are hanging up their rigs.

Even more pressure on the price then when the big rig investors get more coins to sell, they will probably not hoard any before they have made back their initial investment.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
August 04, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
#1
And difficulty factor growth slows down. Seems that people are hanging up their rigs.
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