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Topic: ToTheMoon.is -- Moneypot in space - page 3. (Read 11631 times)

member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
Vires in numeris.
October 28, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

I doubt there is one. They removed the /stats page from the moneypot source, so we can't see how much they've won or lost.

As if that should prevent us from seeing their profit Cheesy:D  ~18.35 BTC as of game #48983.

Here is a chart:


That's funny. Thanks, mysterious obsessive data collector! Wink

Can you recreate most of a /stats report from your data too?

Well I can't say anything about deposits/withdraws. Here's what the /stats page would say about the bet statistics as of game #49803 without
the unterminated games 3, 5, 100, 20961, 21198, 22419 and 49804:
Code:
Total wagered:          1341.20335600 BTC
Players won in cashed:  1309.82564184 BTC
Players won in bonuses:   13.30836846 BTC
Players won in total:   1323.13401030 BTC
Our profit:               18.06934570 BTC
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 28, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

I doubt there is one. They removed the /stats page from the moneypot source, so we can't see how much they've won or lost.

As if that should prevent us from seeing their profit Cheesy:D  ~18.35 BTC as of game #48983.

Here is a chart:


That's funny. Thanks, mysterious obsessive data collector! Wink

Can you recreate most of a /stats report from your data too?
member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
Vires in numeris.
October 28, 2014, 08:19:38 AM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

I doubt there is one. They removed the /stats page from the moneypot source, so we can't see how much they've won or lost.

As if that should prevent us from seeing their profit Cheesy:D  ~18.35 BTC as of game #48983.

Here is a chart:
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
October 28, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
Hi guys to rest assured, I have no intention to start taking investments, I have a job and the last thing i want is to deal in hundreds of players BTC.

First admin account was called dmh just randomly, I dont know anything about dice ninja but people panicked about the name so I changed the name.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
October 28, 2014, 06:30:34 AM
chatting with dmf everyday and remember the first night dmf gambled at moneypot and he loved it.
P.S. i dont think tothemoon site is dmf. but it could be
and if not then look out in the next 3 months for any new site with a game like this

As long as the site doesn't start accepting investments and is provably fair, I think the chances of another scam happening are less. And, people shouldn't keep much money on these sites in their accounts.
elm
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 01:38:18 AM
Someone, I think elm, said we should have a Provably Fair Police. I replied, I will be the first Director-General.

yes I still think that would be very helpful for the masses of btc players. for example each btc casino should be checked if they are provably fair by the Provably fair police (PFP). those casinos should pay a fee to the PFP and will have an icon on their site that will show that they are checked and accredited by the PFP.
now players can feel secure to play on those sites and players should stay away from sites not checked and accredited by the PFP.

and in case a player has lost and thinks he was cheated and lost  a lot of coins the PFP maybe can check his claims but the player will need to the PFP for their work.

just my 2 satoshis and just an idea and invite other users here to make it perfect if possible

legendary
Activity: 3416
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The Concierge of Crypto
October 28, 2014, 12:35:15 AM
Someone, I think elm, said we should have a Provably Fair Police. I replied, I will be the first Director-General.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 12:29:28 AM
chatting with dmf everyday and remember the first night dmf gambled at moneypot and he loved it.


we chatted the whole time and afterwards i asked him if he could make this game for ninja or start a new site.


he said of course and told me he would start the project tomorrow.


over course of next 3 weeks i bought it up a few times and one day he said i spend more than a day (no sleep) on moneypot 2.0



i came up with moneypot 2.0 name. I mention this cuz he had to do more than just make a anitmated rocketship he showed everyone.





P.S. i dont think tothemoon site is dmf. but it could be


and if not then look out in the next 3 months for any new site with a game like this
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
October 28, 2014, 12:22:47 AM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

I doubt there is one. They removed the /stats page from the moneypot source, so we can't see how much they've won or lost. I've seen nothing much of people complaining about any trouble with the site. Some players complain that it feels like the random numbers have been tampered with to make it harder to win, but I wouldn't give that much credence. Maybe it's legit; who knows.

Whats the big deal with dmf?

dmf and toad ran dice.ninja and a couple of altcoin sites (one using jackpotcoin, and one litecoin? I'm guessing), all of which recently vanished without a trace taking a couple of thousand of other people's BTC with them.

See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diceninja-now-with-plinko-745422 for a horribly ugly thread in which we completely fail to track him down but do manage to dox two different people, at least one of whom is presumably completely innocent.

Holy shit, I wish I didnt ask. I am going to be up all night reading this crazyness.

Really sucks, didnt dice ninja have some dealings with moneypot also?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 28, 2014, 12:17:36 AM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

I doubt there is one. They removed the /stats page from the moneypot source, so we can't see how much they've won or lost. I've seen nothing much of people complaining about any trouble with the site. Some players complain that it feels like the random numbers have been tampered with to make it harder to win, but I wouldn't give that much credence. Maybe it's legit; who knows.

Whats the big deal with dmf?

dmf and toad ran dice.ninja and a couple of altcoin sites (one using jackpotcoin, and one litecoin? I'm guessing), all of which recently vanished without a trace taking a couple of thousand of other people's BTC with them.

See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diceninja-now-with-plinko-745422 for a horribly ugly thread in which we completely fail to track him down but do manage to dox two different people, at least one of whom is presumably completely innocent.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 12:12:43 AM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

Whats the big deal with dmf?



dmf is the best scammer so far in this industry
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
October 28, 2014, 12:08:26 AM
So whats the concensus on this site? Safe or scam?

Whats the big deal with dmf?
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 12:02:36 AM
Now this is an interesting development, detective dooglus is on top of it!

I will keep a close watch on this thread as i have never really trusted tothemoon myself.


yes detective dooglus is on the case.





had a little help from sheriff omahapoker
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
:)
October 27, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
Now this is an interesting development, detective dooglus is on top of it!

I will keep a close watch on this thread as i have never really trusted tothemoon myself.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 27, 2014, 11:06:58 PM
JoeMattie(akcoinminer) likes to use funny names on here, i caught him shilling ... i bet it could even be his own site!!! Undecided jmho

Yeah, it could be anyone's, really. We don't have anything to go on as far as I can see.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 27, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
that could be dmf and this is his site. this could be his next gig. watch site taking investments soon.

I know moneypot will soon start taking investments, and will make the new code open source. I guess that in turn means that tothemoon will also be able to take investments with very little work.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 27, 2014, 10:47:53 PM
you know, more that I think about it(those goes that headache again)


that could be dmf and this is his site. this could be his next gig. watch site taking investments soon.



I always thought dmf was VERY smart and he probably knows how to get away with scamming.. so far no one can get any info on this guy
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 27, 2014, 10:42:03 PM
i saw a pic of players profiles somewhere when site came out and it showed user #1 dmh

was thst a joke someone photoshop?

pretty funny

No, it was real.

http://tothemoon.is/game/39 used to show a player called "dmh" playing. I didn't screenshot it, but I saw and commented on it:

Chat log from Oct 15th:

Quote
(05:33:51 PM) Eric: Lol, guess who was the first account of tothemoon
(05:33:52 PM) Eric: http://tothemoon.is/game/39
(05:36:48 PM) Chris: wtf? dmh? lol

Now, mysteriously, it has been changed to "git" - the version control system the site was "encouraged" to use quite a while after game 39 was played...

hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 27, 2014, 10:33:07 PM
I thought the site is a scam? Something like copied the script from Moneypot?

Moneypot is open source. Anyone can make a copy of it and run their own clone, so long as they make their modifications available under the same license.

That doesn't mean it's not a scam, but it's not a scam *because* it's a clone of moneypot.


i saw a pic of players profiles somewhere when site came out and it showed user #1 dmh



was thst a joke someone photoshop?


pretty funny
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 27, 2014, 10:29:07 PM
I thought the site is a scam? Something like copied the script from Moneypot?

Moneypot is open source. Anyone can make a copy of it and run their own clone, so long as they make their modifications available under the same license.

That doesn't mean it's not a scam, but it's not a scam *because* it's a clone of moneypot.
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