Track down and confront Mark Karpele's wife and kid to get some answers - page 2.

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Quote from: Imerman2 on March 27, 2014, 07:43:20 AM

You are sick demented man, 80% of my crypto was in Gox, and you know what I hope for the best for Mark and to even mention his family in such a way is disgusting, they did not run the business so leave them out of everything, even legal procedures. The guy made the first Bitcoin exchange which was a huge development and without that Bitcoin had no price determining mechanism, because there wasn't really a market. He saw the price increase by an incredible amount and made mistakes, yes, but you know what, running a business is fucking hard. Imagine trying to find employees qualified to work on Bitcoin. It's not an easy task and he saw unbelievable growth and was hounded by the Feds for a bunch of bullshit. Anyone who uses a third-party to hold their coins knows they are taking a risk and with Gox that risk was apparent. If you lose coins, so long as he didn't steal them, which at this point seems very unlikely, then man up and accept the fact that YOU ignored warning signs and lost coins, because you did not want to get out when there were multiple chances.

WRONG.

Get your facts straight - MtGox was originally created by Jed McCaleb and it was he that had the vision to turn it into a Bitcoin exchange. When it started to grow too fast he decided to sell it in early 2011 to Karpeles who bought it presumably to monetize and grow. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox

Jed was smart enough to hand it over when he realized it was bigger than he could cope with. Mark on the other hand BOUGHT INTO IT with the knowledge of what it was, and as CEO he bears FULL RESPONSIBILITY for any mismanagement that went on. My issue is that his reported past history, claims of being hacked and inconsistency between his version of events and what the blockchain says gives many of the affected people reason to think there was more going on than we are being told here.

You can't tell me that you wouldn't look at every possible option available to you if you lost a life changing amount of BTC on an exchange you were repeatedly assured was "safe".

Or would you?

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Quote from: Loozik on March 27, 2014, 05:13:13 AM

Quote from: lorix on March 23, 2014, 06:19:16 AM

I can't read Japanese so have to rely on Google translate, but the gist I'm getting on this article's second page is Mark got them out of the country in January before things hit the proverbial fan:

http://gendai.net/articles/view/newsx/148396

Can anyone say "flight risk" ?

It needs to be checked if Karpeles' wife and kid benefited from fraudulent conveyance. If so creditors can go after Karpeles' family to recover some losses.

Even so, it is no private persons business to track down someone. That is wrong on so many levels Sad

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Quote from: lorix on March 23, 2014, 06:19:16 AM

I can't read Japanese so have to rely on Google translate, but the gist I'm getting on this article's second page is Mark got them out of the country in January before things hit the proverbial fan:

http://gendai.net/articles/view/newsx/148396

Can anyone say "flight risk" ?

You are sick demented man, 80% of my crypto was in Gox, and you know what I hope for the best for Mark and to even mention his family in such a way is disgusting, they did not run the business so leave them out of everything, even legal procedures. The guy made the first Bitcoin exchange which was a huge development and without that Bitcoin had no price determining mechanism, because there wasn't really a market. He saw the price increase by an incredible amount and made mistakes, yes, but you know what, running a business is fucking hard. Imagine trying to find employees qualified to work on Bitcoin. It's not an easy task and he saw unbelievable growth and was hounded by the Feds for a bunch of bullshit. Anyone who uses a third-party to hold their coins knows they are taking a risk and with Gox that risk was apparent. If you lose coins, so long as he didn't steal them, which at this point seems very unlikely, then man up and accept the fact that YOU ignored warning signs and lost coins, because you did not want to get out when there were multiple chances.

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Quote from: lorix on March 23, 2014, 06:19:16 AM

I can't read Japanese so have to rely on Google translate, but the gist I'm getting on this article's second page is Mark got them out of the country in January before things hit the proverbial fan:

http://gendai.net/articles/view/newsx/148396

Can anyone say "flight risk" ?

It needs to be checked if Karpeles' wife and kid benefited from fraudulent conveyance. If so creditors can go after Karpeles' family to recover some losses.

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Quote from: lorix on March 27, 2014, 01:50:57 AM

Quote from: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 01:31:24 AM

Quote from: smoothie on March 27, 2014, 12:35:06 AM

Topic of this thread is stupid. His family has nothing to do with it.

The topic scared me a little bit since it seems like an illegal manhunt but if you think about it, knowing where his family live can help locate him in case he flees

That's the point. I'm not suggesting a illegal mob with pitchforks approach but rather use whatever legal options are available to apply pressure where it may be most effective. There have been examples in the past of people transferring assets and property into the name of spouses and children to try and circumvent proceedings so everything should be considered here. Especially in light of the fact (according to the article) that they moved countries just before the situation at Gox started to be revealed.

Go after his family with the hard questions, keep the legal pressure on and don't let up. With the amount of missing money involved, the excuses and the blockchain facts that contradict them this may be the best way to shake the truth loose.

Perhaps changing the tone of the thread title would help.

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Quote from: lorix on March 27, 2014, 01:50:57 AM

Quote from: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 01:31:24 AM

Quote from: smoothie on March 27, 2014, 12:35:06 AM

Topic of this thread is stupid. His family has nothing to do with it.

The topic scared me a little bit since it seems like an illegal manhunt but if you think about it, knowing where his family live can help locate him in case he flees

That's the point. I'm not suggesting a illegal mob with pitchforks approach but rather use whatever legal options are available to apply pressure where it may be most effective. There have been examples in the past of people transferring assets and property into the name of spouses and children to try and circumvent proceedings so everything should be considered here. Especially in light of the fact (according to the article) that they moved countries just before the situation at Gox started to be revealed.

Go after his family with the hard questions, keep the legal pressure on and don't let up. With the amount of missing money involved, the excuses and the blockchain facts that contradict them this may be the best way to shake the truth loose.

It is definitely an interesting idea, it is probably legal in most countries to search someone's adresses and public informations if you don't intend to harm him or you don't stalk him

I hope we will get to know more of what happened in this gox fiasco but I am sure there will always be a lot of mystery left

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Quote from: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 01:31:24 AM

Quote from: smoothie on March 27, 2014, 12:35:06 AM

Topic of this thread is stupid. His family has nothing to do with it.

The topic scared me a little bit since it seems like an illegal manhunt but if you think about it, knowing where his family live can help locate him in case he flees

That's the point. I'm not suggesting a illegal mob with pitchforks approach but rather use whatever legal options are available to apply pressure where it may be most effective. There have been examples in the past of people transferring assets and property into the name of spouses and children to try and circumvent proceedings so everything should be considered here. Especially in light of the fact (according to the article) that they moved countries just before the situation at Gox started to be revealed.

Go after his family with the hard questions, keep the legal pressure on and don't let up. With the amount of missing money involved, the excuses and the blockchain facts that contradict them this may be the best way to shake the truth loose.

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Quote from: smoothie on March 27, 2014, 12:35:06 AM

Topic of this thread is stupid. His family has nothing to do with it.

The topic scared me a little bit since it seems like an illegal manhunt but if you think about it, knowing where his family live can help locate him in case he flees

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Topic of this thread is stupid. His family has nothing to do with it.

lorix

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Further to this, if her location in Canada is known it might be worth tracking her down to try and get some answers via whatever legal process is available there.

If anything this might help flush Mark out from wherever he is holed up.

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Quote from: roslinpl on March 23, 2014, 08:04:46 AM

If this is true it would be another proof of that he is a scaammer and he stole all of those money :-)

Poor Mark. He is getting closer and closer to the jail bait.

Soonish™

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If this is true it would be another proof of that he is a scaammer and he stole all of those money :-)

Poor Mark. He is getting closer and closer to the jail bait.

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I can't read Japanese so have to rely on Google translate, but the gist I'm getting on this article's second page is Mark got them out of the country in January before things hit the proverbial fan:

http://gendai.net/articles/view/newsx/148396

Can anyone say "flight risk" ?

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