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AnonyMint

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Quote from: byt411 on February 28, 2014, 05:59:42 PM

Quote from: AnonyMint on February 28, 2014, 05:07:13 PM

Question is how do we stop naive users from using Paypal?

It appears to me the future of Bitcoin depends on stopping them.

We spit at their face and then we shout at them...
Nah, eventually they will realize.

Sorry the number of naive users will increase faster than those who learn.

Reality check.

And here is the implication of that reality check which you are in denial about:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5434934

byt411

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Quote from: AnonyMint on February 28, 2014, 05:07:13 PM

Question is how do we stop naive users from using Paypal?

It appears to me the future of Bitcoin depends on stopping them.

We spit at their face and then we shout at them...
Nah, eventually they will realize.

AnonyMint

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Question is how do we stop naive users from using Paypal?

It appears to me the future of Bitcoin depends on stopping them.

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Quote from: franky1 on February 28, 2014, 03:00:44 AM

please will people learn the simple lesson..

paypal is scam central, do not trade with paypal users! a high percentage will charge back claiming someone hacked their account or other lies to get funds back. if you want to ignore the risk and continue doing paypal transactions then learn this.

lessons:
1. ask them for details and proof of ownership of account. EG photo ID + webcam picture of their face holding a piece of paper with your username on it and their paypal email address, EG : 'i ([email protected]) agree to pay (Urname123) $500'
2. if they refuse then they are scammers.
3. even asking them to sign a pgp contract or a bitcoin contract is not a recognised form of proof in paypals eyes. but ID check is.
4. with ID proof and blockchain transaction ID, paypal have started to accept that as a valid transaction.

never ever trade without atleast doing some due diligence checks

Are you kidding?

PayPal disregard all Bitcoin Transactions, and actually accounts get terminated without question for anything BTC Related.. It's in their Terms.

Edit: You can however buy BTC Rigs with PayPal, but not the currency itself.

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Quote from: byt411 on February 28, 2014, 11:46:48 AM

Quote from: adicted on February 28, 2014, 05:41:17 AM

Its not trackable

What are you saying? BitCoin transactions are perfectly trackable, unless it was a shared transaction, or the coins were mixed...

Bitcoin transcations are trackable, Bitcoins themselves are not trackable unless you're lucky (coin is sent to empty account and no transactions occur on that account afterwards).

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Quote from: adicted on February 28, 2014, 05:41:17 AM

Its not trackable

Yes, it's completely trackable.

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Quote from: adicted on February 28, 2014, 05:41:17 AM

Its not trackable

Yes, it is. Ever heard of TX IDs?

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Quote from: adicted on February 28, 2014, 05:41:17 AM

Its not trackable

What are you saying? BitCoin transactions are perfectly trackable, unless it was a shared transaction, or the coins were mixed...

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Its not trackable

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please will people learn the simple lesson..

paypal is scam central, do not trade with paypal users! a high percentage will charge back claiming someone hacked their account or other lies to get funds back. if you want to ignore the risk and continue doing paypal transactions then learn this.

lessons:
1. ask them for details and proof of ownership of account. EG photo ID + webcam picture of their face holding a piece of paper with your username on it and their paypal email address, EG : 'i ([email protected]) agree to pay (Urname123) $500'
2. if they refuse then they are scammers.
3. even asking them to sign a pgp contract or a bitcoin contract is not a recognised form of proof in paypals eyes. but ID check is.
4. with ID proof and blockchain transaction ID, paypal have started to accept that as a valid transaction.

never ever trade without atleast doing some due diligence checks

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Quote from: alan929 on February 27, 2014, 10:04:45 PM

Address was:

1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
Sent Feb 7th at 8:18am PST

Thanks again for the help.

Did you contact pay pal?

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Quote from: adicted on February 28, 2014, 02:37:29 AM

You cant track if they use bitmixer to mix all the coin

But if they sent it to their own addresses, then yes. At least we can know they sent it to bitmixer.

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You cant track if they use bitmixer to mix all the coin

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Its all about the Gold

Quote from: GoldBit89 on February 27, 2014, 11:11:00 PM

Quote from: alan929 on February 27, 2014, 10:04:45 PM

Address was:

1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
Sent Feb 7th at PST

Thanks again for the help.

4594769bf7eafb81b90e8dfe2b3e104576956c772e9235d33e84aaa087bd8a1f
1KpMkKwvuScidyWxSNpaXMqsPxKRFpm9NP
1PhE4WqXArZhBXwHJ57ucgJrZCuznJszU1
1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7 0.2 BTC

then sends it to:
0d74893d9bcd518242720f5668fd3111933f9b4500a6a89eb04dcad5fda34db8
1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
1Pfbw5gdMjU5ZTRqkHkiNJCwKZpFTF3XwJ 0.68473049 BTC
the address 1Pfbw5gdMjU5ZTRqkHkiNJCwKZpFTF3XwJ has alot of btc already in account and quite often sends to this address :
1Ne5bGjDdgmbsGdNK9ocwrQiWf8K1FTuSa

still looking into further

this is interesting in the last 24 hours: input output final balance
1Ne5bGjDdgmbsGdNK9ocwrQiWf8K1FTuSa 646 81 646 81 5,094 BTC 5,094 BTC 0 BTC ($0 USD)

maybe im missing something here?

***ADDED from that address(FTuSa) many dump offs of 1000 to 1100 btc to addresses who then promptly dump it off and zeros balance and continues this process for a good while.

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Its all about the Gold

Quote from: alan929 on February 27, 2014, 10:04:45 PM

Address was:

1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
Sent Feb 7th at PST

Thanks again for the help.

4594769bf7eafb81b90e8dfe2b3e104576956c772e9235d33e84aaa087bd8a1f 02/08/2014 11:19:01
1KpMkKwvuScidyWxSNpaXMqsPxKRFpm9NP
1PhE4WqXArZhBXwHJ57ucgJrZCuznJszU1
1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7 0.2 BTC

then sends it to:
0d74893d9bcd518242720f5668fd3111933f9b4500a6a89eb04dcad5fda34db8 02/11/2014 04:12:35
1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
1Pfbw5gdMjU5ZTRqkHkiNJCwKZpFTF3XwJ 0.68473049 BTC
the address 1Pfbw5gdMjU5ZTRqkHkiNJCwKZpFTF3XwJ has alot of btc already in account and quite often sends to this address :
1Ne5bGjDdgmbsGdNK9ocwrQiWf8K1FTuSa

still looking into further

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Quote from: alan929 on February 27, 2014, 10:04:45 PM

Address was:

1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
Sent Feb 7th at 8:18am PST

Thanks again for the help.

I don't see any such transaction.

The closest I see is this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/4594769bf7eafb81b90e8dfe2b3e104576956c772e9235d33e84aaa087bd8a1f

It was sent 2014-02-08 11:19:01 PST.

The transaction before that was 2014-01-31
The transaction after that was 2014-02-11

AnonyMint

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Apparently the buyer hijacked a paypal account of wirelessunits.com. Paid me with that, then the paypal charge was reversed.

Can anyone assist? I will share the recovery of any amount.

==== LocalBitcoins.com Receipt Contact #490805====
Buyer: BTC-Hot
2.00000000 BTC sent to buyer on 2014-02-21 03:06:02+00:00
LocalBitcoins.com fee BTC: 0.02000000
Payment details as shown to buyer:
Method:
Receiving PayPal account email: xxxxxxxx@c__lp_ge.com
Amount: 1288.50 USD
Reference/message: L490805BAIPH
==== End ====

Localbitcoins.com bitcoin signature: IP8tk/9B1yHAPJYRYeO/cpCKH7hdLSp7VNSAvChlA7CHw9NGxFrx9yFKdHuUOnuC56ppNZ/5yczc/+7HoNLZjsE=
Signing address: 1Q1wVsNNiUo68caU7BfyFFQ8fVBqxC2DSc

Business Name:
   wirelessunits.com , inc.
Email:
   [email protected]

Business Contact Information

Customer Service URL:      http://www.wirelessunits.com
Customer Service Email:
   [email protected]
Customer Service Phone:
   866-943-4737

Total amount:
   -$1,288.50 USD
Fee amount:
   $0.00 USD
Net amount:
   -$1,288.50 USD

Date:
   Feb 21, 2014
Time:
   06:56:27 PST
Status:
   Removed

Subject:

wirelessunits.com , inc. has just sent you $1,288.50 USD with PayPal

AnonyMint

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I have same problem using localbitcoins -> paypal but for 2 BTC.

What info do I need to post to get some assistance? I don't really have time right now to develop my blockchain tracing knowledge.

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Address was:

1932Gdf3VfVs44egJQFweyhru2k2LcbdQ7
Sent Feb 7th at 8:18am PST

Thanks again for the help.

DannyHamilton

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Post the transactionID here, or if you don't know how to do that, then post the address that you sent the bitcoins to and the approximate date and time that you sent it.

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