TradeFortress - owner of inputs.io + coinlenders.com still has 1347.8173415 BTC - page 2.

gaston909

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Quote from: monbux on November 25, 2013, 06:52:16 PM

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I'm convinced TF has way more than 700BTC, though. Grin

I''m conviced too, TF set the con up very well. Fake address, who knows if he was a fake ID?
He might also have a cold storage address that nobody could link too, I'm sure he has more than 700 BTC.

If it's a worst case scenario and he is a master mind scammer. I would say his target was 10,000BTC.

DrG

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So unless you know the owner of the site do no keep you BTC online in somebody else's hands. Do not have a pool store them for you (like many people kept their earnings sitting at 50btc).

Always collect your coins (move them to an address you control) and put them in cold storage (at least until you learn how to secure from scams).

spikhoff

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Hello,

This is my first post to forum.

I stored pretty decent amount of bitcoins in inputs.io. Also i have used few times coinlenders service.
After arriving from holidays in last week I was extremely happy until I tried to log in to inputs.io... Huh

Light

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This is a big misunderstanding. I am from that time and have a hell of a lot lot less than 3k. At the same time I believe I have more than most.

TF on the other hand probably has a nice stack of coins. Whether that's more than 700 BTC I cannot say, but considering what he paid for advertisement it seems likely.

Completely concur, I don't know why everyone propagates the myth that the oldest members are swimming in BTC. I'm from late 2010 and I definitely don't have 3k lol. Anyway, TF is probably busy selling the stolen BTC at the hugely inflated prices right about now (at least that's what I'd be doing).

markjamrobin

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Quote from: monbux on November 25, 2013, 06:52:16 PM

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I'm convinced TF has way more than 700BTC, though. Grin

I''m conviced too, TF set the con up very well. Fake address, who knows if he was a fake ID?
He might also have a cold storage address that nobody could link too, I'm sure he has more than 700 BTC.

He should have had some profit from Inputs.Io/CL which should be being used to pay out victims.

monbux

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I'm convinced TF has way more than 700BTC, though. Grin

I''m conviced too, TF set the con up very well. Fake address, who knows if he was a fake ID?
He might also have a cold storage address that nobody could link too, I'm sure he has more than 700 BTC.

markjamrobin

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Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 05:03:27 PM

Quote from: Kouye on November 25, 2013, 03:21:36 PM

Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 03:05:09 PM

I personally think he went a scam too far.

This one is going to catch up to him, and when it does, he won't enjoy it.

He seems to be playing hide and seek now... so he probably realises this is the case.

Worst case scenario, he'll spend a few years in jail, and then enjoy the BTC while drinking piña colada on the beach.
Actually, jail might even be a good thing overall, as it will prevent him from burning all the coins on casino sites before they mature.

Not sure this is worst case scenario - My worst case would be one of the people's lives ive destroyed catching up with me and hurting me, or worse my family.

Let's hope nobody holds a grudge - although after some of the painful stories I have read. I doubt it will be the case.

No-one went after Trendon either ...

We even had his full name and address. All we have is a general region for TF, right?

gaston909

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Quote from: Kouye on November 25, 2013, 03:21:36 PM

Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 03:05:09 PM

I personally think he went a scam too far.

This one is going to catch up to him, and when it does, he won't enjoy it.

He seems to be playing hide and seek now... so he probably realises this is the case.

Worst case scenario, he'll spend a few years in jail, and then enjoy the BTC while drinking piña colada on the beach.
Actually, jail might even be a good thing overall, as it will prevent him from burning all the coins on casino sites before they mature.

Not sure this is worst case scenario - My worst case would be one of the people's lives ive destroyed catching up with me and hurting me, or worse my family.

Let's hope nobody holds a grudge - although after some of the painful stories I have read. I doubt it will be the case.

gaston909

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Quote from: BitcoinFr34k on November 25, 2013, 03:27:26 PM

Quote from: Mt. Dox on November 25, 2013, 02:52:41 PM

Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 02:33:27 PM

Anyone still think hes a trustworthy guy?

No. An anonymous source who has proved to be reliable in the past has informed me that the Google Apps email account [email protected] had 2 factor authentication enabled before the hack back in July 2013. TF has posted emails from Linode showing that this was the account that was allegedly compromised by the password reset function.

It is not possible to use the password reset function on Google Apps on an account with 2 factor enabled without having access to the owners cell phone as it ends a text message.

I cannot prove whether or not this was the case but I personally believe 2 factor authentication was enabled. TradeFortress has dodged this query repeatedly.

This, combined with the fact he has stopped refunding people even though its quite obvious he still has 697+BTC, makes me believe he is untrustworthy at the very least.

So if he did scam everybody that would mean he has a total of 4797 BTC (which is $3,813,615). Not bad Cool

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Looking at CL deposits it looks like he could be closer to 10,000 Cheesy

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Quote from: DebitMe on November 25, 2013, 02:12:21 PM

Whats the possibility of figuring out which address is his that holds all the AsicMiner stock that was supposed to be owned as collateral for the balances in CL? We could get a better representation of his wealth by looking at how much AM he owns. Or did he have it all on passthroughs? Could we contact pass through operators for this information then?

This shows he own 599 AM shares at his glados address.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3697098

Edit: Maybe we could talk with friedcat about paying his divs into a fund that gets distributed among CL victims.

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Quote from: Mt. Dox on November 25, 2013, 02:52:41 PM

Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 02:33:27 PM

Anyone still think hes a trustworthy guy?

No. An anonymous source who has proved to be reliable in the past has informed me that the Google Apps email account [email protected] had 2 factor authentication enabled before the hack back in July 2013. TF has posted emails from Linode showing that this was the account that was allegedly compromised by the password reset function.

It is not possible to use the password reset function on Google Apps on an account with 2 factor enabled without having access to the owners cell phone as it ends a text message.

I cannot prove whether or not this was the case but I personally believe 2 factor authentication was enabled. TradeFortress has dodged this query repeatedly.

This, combined with the fact he has stopped refunding people even though its quite obvious he still has 697+BTC, makes me believe he is untrustworthy at the very least.

So if he did scam everybody that would mean he has a total of 4797 BTC (which is $3,813,615). Not bad Cool

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Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 03:05:09 PM

I personally think he went a scam too far.

This one is going to catch up to him, and when it does, he won't enjoy it.

He seems to be playing hide and seek now... so he probably realises this is the case.

Worst case scenario, he'll spend a few years in jail, and then enjoy the BTC while drinking piña colada on the beach.
Actually, jail might even be a good thing overall, as it will prevent him from burning all the coins on casino sites before they mature.

gaston909

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I personally think he went a scam too far.

This one is going to catch up to him, and when it does, he won't enjoy it.

He seems to be playing hide and seek now... so he probably realises this is the case.

Mt. Dox

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Quote from: gaston909 on November 25, 2013, 02:33:27 PM

Anyone still think hes a trustworthy guy?

No. An anonymous source who has proved to be reliable in the past has informed me that the Google Apps email account [email protected] had 2 factor authentication enabled before the hack back in July 2013. TF has posted emails from Linode showing that this was the account that was allegedly compromised by the password reset function.

It is not possible to use the password reset function on Google Apps on an account with 2 factor enabled without having access to the owners cell phone as it sends a text message.

I cannot prove whether or not this was the case but I personally believe 2 factor authentication was enabled. TradeFortress has dodged this query repeatedly.

This, combined with the fact he has stopped refunding people even though its quite obvious he still has 697+BTC, makes me believe he is untrustworthy at the very least.

romerun

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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.

no doubt, if you are into btc since 2011 or more early it's common to have 3000+

Kouye

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Quote from: Mt. Dox on November 25, 2013, 02:44:32 PM

Quote from: Kouye on November 25, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Don't forget the outputs of a transaction can be owned by several different individuals, even though it requires manual crafting.
It is not impossible, so this is no proof.

I'm convinced TF has way more than 700BTC, though. Grin

Those are inputs that were linked. They were all broadcast from blockchain.info and not a shared wallet, so yes they do belong to him without a doubt.

Whoever made those transactions had the private key for 1GlaDos and the other address.

~~And inputs I meant, sorry, edited my post~~
I actually meant outputs, you confused me! Grin

An no, that is wrong, I asked the question earlier, here is the answer.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3138606

Quote from: DannyHamilton on September 12, 2013, 12:18:34 PM

Multiple users could each provide a list of the unspent outputs that they control and the destination where they want the associated bitcoins to be sent. Then one of the users could construct a single unsigned transaction that spends all the outputs from all the users and sends the value to all the desired addresses. This single transaction could then be passed around with each user adding their own signature as needed. Once all signatures have been applied, the resulting signed transaction can be broadcast into the bitcoin network. I *think* that the blockchain.info "shared send" service does this.

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Quote from: Kouye on November 25, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Don't forget the outputs of a transaction can be owned by several different individuals, even though it requires manual crafting.
It is not impossible, so this is no proof.

I'm convinced TF has way more than 700BTC, though. Grin

Those are inputs that were linked. They were all broadcast from blockchain.info and not a shared wallet, so yes they do belong to him without a doubt.

Whoever made those transactions had the private keys for 1GlaDos and the other addresses.

And yes of course he has much more, but these are Bitcoins that he will have a hard time saying that they don't belong to him.

Kouye

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Cuddling, censored, unicorn-shaped troll.

Don't forget the outputs of a transaction can be owned by several different individuals, even though it requires manual crafting.
It is not impossible, so this is no proof.

I'm convinced TF has way more than 700BTC, though. Grin

gaston909

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Excellent work, I have seen a few others for him as well.

So... he made some efforts to refund a few people...since his reputation has been deystroyed by the "new improved" trust system... he hasn't been back/ heard from / offered any further refunds.

Anyone still think hes a trustworthy guy?

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Whats the possibility of figuring out which address is his that holds all the AsicMiner stock that was supposed to be owned as collateral for the balances in CL? We could get a better representation of his wealth by looking at how much AM he owns. Or did he have it all on passthroughs? Could we contact pass through operators for this information then?

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