Topic: Trading 1 BTC for house in New Zealand (Read 3310 times)

Wait, what! You're tryin' to sell my private info? theymos!!! What a dog! 

Seriously, I approve, and applaud his efforts. Please consider trading for any of the above to further this noble endeavor.

~Bruno Kuc...~

Hello folks, I am reporting back with detailed descriptions of the items I have traded with Phinnaeus Gage for 1 BTC. If you like to support me in my quest for a house in NZ or want to become the owner of any of these items, I encourage you to trade any or all of these items for something bigger or better with me. I am considering anything with value, like BTC, other items, a service, etc. If you can think of something, please let me know.

There are currently 5 items available: 4 antique books and 1 statement autographed by Phinnaeus Gage.

About books: This is great stuff. Really cool what people used for reading in the old days. Some of us may even remember them. Cool, highly intuitive user interface, where you just turn a page to see more of the text you are reading. No distracting hypertext-links, no banner ads and no embedded HTML video

But on a more serious note, each book is a valuable item by itself. In the description below I have included links so you can check the exact edition of the book and the quoted price. These are all antique books, first two items are first and second editions pre-1900. As a layman I can't really say anything about the condition only that they are in good shape considering their age. But they are obviously not new.

Item 1

The Life of Joan of Arc, The Maid of Orleans by David W. Bartlett Second printing from 1854, 223 pages, hard cover, frontis portrait

Item 2

Art-Life and Other Poems by Benjamin Hathaway First edition from 1877, 225 pages, original gold stamped small 8vo cloth

Item 3

Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization by US Sen. Theodore G. Bilbo 1947, 330 pages, hard cover Bilbo was America's most controversial politician ever elected to high office, including the governorship and senate of the state of Mississippi. An avowed Southern nationalist, Bilbo was even a member of the Ku Klux Klan in his youth, although he left that organisation before he was elected to office. A firm defender of Southern segregation, Bilbo was unusual in that he realized that segregation was no answer and invoked considerable opposition from his fellow Southerners because of his demand that physical geographical separation was the only way to preserve Western Civilization. "If we choose any plan short of the physical separation of the races, we are in effect adopting the scheme of amalgamation of the races. Any student of racial history knows that if the Negroes remain in the United States, the last American will be an octoroon or a mongrel . . . If the Negroes are not removed, this condition may come about in three to five hundred years: The fact that it will come sooner or later is a certainty."

Item 4

The Common Law Tradition: Deciding Appeals by Karl N. Llewellyn 1960, first Edition, sixth printing, 565 pages, hard cover, original cloth Llewellyn was the premier commercial law scholar of the modern era as shown by his selection by the American Law Institute and the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws as the chief reporter for the momentous Uniform Commercial Code project. He has also been regarded as the leader of the American Legal Realist Movement. The Common Law Tradition was written in 1960, less than two years before his death, and was his last major work, representing his final thinking on the judicial process. There is a certain irony in the reasons Llewellyn gave for writing The Common Law Tradition, and in some of his conclusions. More contemporary legal scholars would consider Legal Realism's primary teaching to be that our appellate decision process is nothing more than subjective indeterminancy. 'Legal Realism produced the insight that case analysis cannot generate objective answers to legal problems.' Llewellyn, however, stated that his purpose in writing The Common Law Tradition was to dispel a 'crisis in confidence' of the Bar in our appellate courts and the cynical view that appellate judges' decisions represent little more than naked will, later merely rationalized in the writing of the opinion. The Common Law Tradition was based upon Llewellyn's study of literally hundreds upon hundreds of high state court decisions handed down over some three decades'

Item 5

An autographed statement from local bitcointalk celebrity Phinnaeus Gage - the funniest member of bitcointalk.org who also happens to have the highest post count (currently at 11136 11138 posts, ZOMG!). Bruno has agreed to send this statement including his real-life name and autograph (this is the first time his full name is published on bitcointalk by the way!!) to anyone who wants to trade it with me: "...my apologies for not having same included. I can easily forward the note to whomever. It was written on a vintage pad I acquired long ago in some live auction lot consisting of a myriad of paper ephemera. I have no idea who Larry Greene is, but I bet he had a desk in some office of some company that supplies Pepsi."

One could buy a house in Detroit for a $1.00, albeit I just read that the Governor of MI is declaring a state of emergency for the city.

http://www.rentafarmhouse.com.au/

GULP! I sent the books to Holland to some guy named Quixote. 

I will publish more detail and photograph(s) but I am currently waiting for the arrival of the books.

Edd, we will have to look at this on a per-trade basis, but you should certainly consider shipping costs when you make an offer. I am confident if the offer is good that we can come to some agreement. I am located in Europe, The Netherlands.

Yes I am definitely going to document this adventure in detail. At first I think the forum will do fine. After achieving some successful trades I agree that a blog or simple WordPress site would be the way to go.

I'm curious, where are you located, deeplink? If I were to make an off on a book, would it have to include shipping costs?

I would love to see this happen 

Definitely get a blog set up.

...Now you gotta get to work trading those books

I've expressed to deeplink that an online log would help the project along, and I'm pretty sure he's considering it. The first step is completed with the exception of him having the books in his hands. Once he does get a physical online presence, it won't be that difficult to express what has transpired via this thread (assuming it's the main one) onto it.

I don't know if there's any real life experiences, but surely if you trade many times and all the time get something that's a little bit more valuable than what you have, everything is possible. Haha. If successfull this is truly a story that should be documented. Is there a blog ?

In as few trades as possible may be admirable, it may take a few more, but definitely doable.

Haha, that's a great adventure! Best of luck!

I confirm this transaction. I just PM'd deeplink the same, also stating that he can see a copy of the receipt at any time.

I'm glad to be a part of this endeavor and hope to see it through fruition. I also look forward to helping him in what ever way possible to keep this a goin'.

Sure, it mimics the Red Paperclip idea, among a myriad of its clones, but this would be the first time an attempt is made starting with, and possibly the continue use of a crypto-currency, namely Bitcoin, throughout this endeavor.

~Bruno K~

The payment of 1 BTC has been sent to Phinnaeus Gage

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/57267688/385d310bbf8c42f40bfc2f19d39790ee2ba75297f6ff721e2e00d4888f28bf65

I am very happy to announce that the first deal has been struck!

Phinnaeus Gage - the funniest member of bitcointalk.org who also happens to have the highest post count - has agreed to trade a couple of books for 1 BTC. He will also include an autographed statement.

You can soon become the owner of any of these items.

• The Life of Joan of Arc, The Maid of Orleans
• The Common Law Tradition: Deciding Appeals
• Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization
• Art-Life and Other Poems

Each of these books are valuable items by themselves in these exact editions.

I will report back with more detailed descriptions after receiving the items.

Anyone interested in doing the next trade is encouraged to contact me with an offer. This can be anything with value, like BTC, another item, a service, etc. If you can offer something bigger or better to trade, I like to hear it.

They are used as in antique, vintage, collectible. As far as the book Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization is concern, the price reflected on Amazon is of a reprint, whereas the one I offer is 1st ed./1st pr., hence provided the link to where one can purchase it at the current cheapest price point.

And I will sign it if you desire.

More on your hybrid red paperclip idea.

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Yes, the idea has been done before, BUT not with starting with a crypto-currency, namely Bitcoin. Therefore, if you take this project of yours to fruition, you'll be the first, and I would be honored to be a part of it even if I have to send you both books to insure you get off a runnin'.

You mentioned in the OP that your goal is to do this quickly. You may need to nix that adverb and go with 'just do it' regardless of the time it takes to reach said goal. Done properly, you're looking at no less than a year, but should be obtainable in no more than two.

I suggest revisiting the red paperclip website/blog for further inspiration and incorporate the elements he does right, improving upon those that may make your project better. Documenting every step is a given, especially if entities come on board in the chain who desire to have their participation linked to some site, acting as a form of advertising for their kind contribution.

You may not need to concern yourself with each traction being pure in some sense, for the real goal is to continue to trade up, starting with one bitcoin to a house--a real house that you own, and not one you live in for only a year, if I recall the end result of the red paperclip account correctly.

I further suggest buying a domain name for your project and set up a self-hosted WP blog. It doesn't need to be fancy, but at least be professional looking. No really need to worry about SEO and all that other marketing crap, though the more you do put into it at the beginning, the easier it would be to garner the bigger trades down the road. A decent domain name that comes to mind is 1bitcoin2ahouse.com. Simple, and to the point.

I'm not exactly sure how you plan on proceeding with the trading aspect, but it looks like you're planning on selling the items for BTC, using the proceeds to move up the ladder in kind. If that's the case, that's fine for this being a Bitcoin project.

I guess it would look something like the following:

• 1 BTC for book(s)
• Books sold as quickly as possible for BTC, now having ~2X BTC
• Make another purchase (trade) with ~2X BTC
• Sell that item, too, for a greater profict
• Repeat/Rinse
• ...
• HOUSE

I hope the above aids you in your quest.

~Bruno K~

Thanks galaxyAbstractor, bitcoinbitcoin113, yochdog and Phinnaeus Gage for your proposals. I liked all of your offers, but a decision has to be made.

The purpose is of course to trade for bigger and better things. At least something that I might be able to trade up in the future.

galaxyAbstractor, I cannot trade for the half-broken pen, useful as it still may be  

bitcoinbitcoin113, I like magnets, but I'm afraid they may erase my computer as Phinn pointed out, including my bitcoin wallet, in which case I wouldn't be able to pay you for it

yochdog, the harddisk you are offering has a wide price range on the internet, but I found one on eBay which I think is the same: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital-150-GB-SATA-150GB-WD1500ADFD-00NLR1-/221192145913

Phinnaeus Gage, our favorite local celebrity and entertainer, has made some great offers. I've done research on the books that are offered and I'd want to read all of them, if only I had the time.

Phinn, are these books new or used and would you sign it if we trade?

Only 7 (not 9), for two of the books I found at a cheaper price than originally searched a couple hours ago. To the best of my knowledge, the following prices (in yellow glow) reflect the cheapest you can purchase the exact edition for in any condition.

ART AND HANDICRAFT IN THE WOMAN'S BUILDING OF THE WORLD'S COLUMBIAN EXPOSITION CHICAGO, 1893 $100.00

The Life of Joan of Arc, The Maid of Orleans $85.00

The Common Law Tradition: Deciding Appeals $75.00

Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization $90.00

VOYAGES AND DISCOVERIES OF THE COMPANIONS OF COLUMBUS No. 72 of 374 copies. $65.00

Art-Life and Other Poems $75.00

An Historical Review of the State of Ireland $175.00