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This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

Just accept it, there is no other way because the Market is going to behave in that way all the time so we have to adapt to it then we know how to surf allong with such uncertainty which will help us to build the trading strategies so we can save money means we can make more money so end up in profits in the long run.

This is the correct answer, the uncertainty of the markets is always going to be there and it is not difficult to see why this is the case, in order for a transaction to take place someone needs to sell and someone needs to buy, that much is obvious, however lets look a little bit deeper than that.

Why is someone selling? There are many reasons for that but the most obvious one is because they think the price could go down, and why is someone else buying? Because they think the price will go up, this means that for any trade to take place people need to disagree with the direction the market is going to take, and this means the market is always in a state of uncertainty as no one is sure about what the market will do next, as the market is nothing more but an aggregate of the sentiment traders and investors in general have about it.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 27, 2021, 09:32:03 AM

I've simply learned to take the risks especially when the volatility of the market is too high. Also, handling our emotions well every time the market situation changes would be a wise move. Fear during the dip and greediness during the pump would only lead us to regrets in the end so we better set a good target goal so we'll have something to follow and we could make smart decisions.

If you’re taking any risks in this market, it should only be a calculated risk. You don’t just jump in and be taking risks when you’re not well planned. You have to calculate yourself and know what kind of risk you’re about to take, what may go wrong and how you will be able to handle any kind of situation that arises from taking that risk. You have to be ready for it, and if possible, you should have any kind of tool that helps to minimize the level of risks that you’re able to take.

And for sure it is good to set a target. Not having a target while trading is like having a ship without a captain that’s directing it where it’s going to. Our targets are what leads us and determines the steps we are going to take in being successful. And your target would make you know when you should get into the market and when you should leave, which is very important.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

I've simply learned to take the risks especially when the volatility of the market is too high. Also, handling our emotions well every time the market situation changes would be a wise move. Fear during the dip and greediness during the pump would only lead us to regrets in the end so we better set a good target goal so we'll have something to follow and we could make smart decisions.

You wouldnt learn if you wont really experience those things which is normal and when we are still a noob then we do really have those impressions that we could able to do it easily but when you are on the actual situation then you would really realize things that they doesnt work on that way which simply shows that it would really require much work and effort for you to succeed into this market and not just you do mind off on dealing with a day then you do mind or think that you could make money instantly.
Everything takes time and wont really be that simple.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

I've simply learned to take the risks especially when the volatility of the market is too high. Also, handling our emotions well every time the market situation changes would be a wise move. Fear during the dip and greediness during the pump would only lead us to regrets in the end so we better set a good target goal so we'll have something to follow and we could make smart decisions.

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Once you had stepped your foot into this market then you should really prepare yourself into these circumstances and all of emotional aspect could really

be felt and you should bare and deal with it because this is something normal because we are just human beings and those kind of reactions would really

be that normal or common and this is where our experience do tell us on what to do and make us somewhat confident.

Yeah, uncertainty of crypto market trading could be neutralized with the help of being well prepared. In my understanding the success in trading is all about the level of our preparation in terms of skill development in technical analysis and controlling emotions. Along with gaining experience, anyone could manage all the fluctuations of market but still you need to be a continuous learner. When you are stopping for learning process then market will start dominating you.

Uncertainty and high volatility are basic nature of every market and it got nothing to do with crypto market especially. Most of the people here might have started their trading with some other markets and then I might have entered into crypto trading hence they are all well prepared to face and handle all the uncertainty of this crypto market.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

My strategy is quite simple. Buy when you think the price of the particular is worth more but you are getting at a lower price.
Wait for some days for momentum to build in the market. Take profits if the price goes up.
HODL if the price goes down. Don't know why people take so much stress when trading.

So you say that you wont get stressed with your trades and telling and wondering on why people do take much stress? Even veteran ones

would really be able to felt these things because uncertainties and doubts would really be there because we are just humans no matter how

you do held off that negative profit of a certain coin of yours then not everyone does have that level of patience thats why decisions
will really vary.

Holding while your portfolio is going down requires a good amount of self control and patience as you say.
But I think people should not stress over it much because there's no good in stressing and taking the pressure on yourself.
It won't change the numbers in red to green. So even if you are in a loss just be patient and learn how to improvise the trades.

In trading, expect that the market won't always be bullish but being bearish as well so its not surprising to see your portfolio sometimes going down since the market is dumping. But never be carried away with your emotions and stay patient because the market condition will definitely change from time to time. Once you see the market being unstable, trading is not really advisable as the risk is certainly high. Just wait for the market to be normal again so you can minimize losses, and start making good trades to succeed.

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Opt-out of a trade could be a good way for traders as they do not know when the situation can go back to before. The key here is just to analyze so we know when the direction will change and determine what we should do. Sometimes the market is changing the direction but that is temporary and then the market is back on the right track. It is about how you can decide at the right time so you do not get lost in your money while you can wait for the next opportunity to buy the other coins at a low price. Yes, controlling greed will be good in this matter as that can help you take profit at the right time.

I would say just the opposite. If you are not in a rush to make a profit, then let it sit and wait for it to go back up if you are not in a rush. I mean yes you may "miss out" on opportunities, but this is crypto and you will have all the chance to make a profit later on. What people should do however is buy any coin they want, sell when it is high, and when it is low wait for it to go high enough to sell. Keep doing that and wait however long you need to wait, if it is 10 minutes then 10 minutes, if its 10 months then 10 months.

As long as you keep doing this then you are not going to lose any money and you will keep making profit in the very long term. The only exception to this would be the horrible coins. I have seen people invest into horrible shitcoins and you should sell them as soon as possible, otherwise they are going to drag you down as well.

I got your point. We know in crypto when the price is down, the price will have a chance to increase so high, although it needs some time to start another rally. As long as we do not sell the coins at a low price and still hold them, we have that chance to sell them in the future. The problem is that not many people or traders can do that because some of them are trading because they want to make money for their living or use the money that is not free.

Maybe they do not have to get tempted to buy many new coins which they do not know if that coin has a chance to increase or need to hold for a longer time. But we really do not know when the coin will reach the high peak or which coins have the chance to increase higher, making people unable to wait.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

Just accept it, there is no other way because the Market is going to behave in that way all the time so we have to adapt to it then we know how to surf allong with such uncertainty which will help us to build the trading strategies so we can save money means we can make more money so end up in profits in the long run.

The market will always be like that so better accept it because there's no way we can change a very volatile market. And trade with more knowledge and strategies so that if you happen to trade and the market suddenly turn sideways, you will still be able to make a back up move which will not create losses for you. And one thing, do not trade with your emotions because that will only cause confusions and will lead to unexpected losses rather than you trade for profits. Emotions will always be there but always learn to control them no matter what.

Once you had stepped your foot into this market then you should really prepare yourself into these circumstances and all of emotional aspect could really

be felt and you should bare and deal with it because this is something normal because we are just human beings and those kind of reactions would really

be that normal or common and this is where our experience do tell us on what to do and make us somewhat confident.

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Quote from: syedakhlaque on November 25, 2021, 10:31:43 AM

This is a crypto business. There may always be an uncertain condition under which you have to continue your trading. There may be fewer businesses except for this one Where there are so many whales, so many ups and downs, so much chance to grow business, also many risks of losses. This is a business of courageous,brave, and Straight men.
The person who knows to play with risks. But at the same time , This is a favorite business of all ages. People love to do this business. There is something in this business that has made it attractive for all.

Trading is definitely full of risks as it has a lot uncertainties from the beginning until the last part of your trading. But this should not be a barrier not to make profits in trading because as long as you know how to manage the risk, your trading will always be successful. There may be times for losses, but trading does not fail us to make profits once we are at good in it. That's how trading works despite of its uncertainties and due to it's market volatility. And despite of the fact that trading is like a roller coaster, it even makes more people to stay than to find another which will make them profitable.

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Quote from: michellee on November 25, 2021, 07:25:37 AM

Opt-out of a trade could be a good way for traders as they do not know when the situation can go back to before. The key here is just to analyze so we know when the direction will change and determine what we should do. Sometimes the market is changing the direction but that is temporary and then the market is back on the right track. It is about how you can decide at the right time so you do not get lost in your money while you can wait for the next opportunity to buy the other coins at a low price. Yes, controlling greed will be good in this matter as that can help you take profit at the right time.

I would say just the opposite. If you are not in a rush to make a profit, then let it sit and wait for it to go back up if you are not in a rush. I mean yes you may "miss out" on opportunities, but this is crypto and you will have all the chance to make a profit later on. What people should do however is buy any coin they want, sell when it is high, and when it is low wait for it to go high enough to sell. Keep doing that and wait however long you need to wait, if it is 10 minutes then 10 minutes, if its 10 months then 10 months.

As long as you keep doing this then you are not going to lose any money and you will keep making profit in the very long term. The only exception to this would be the horrible coins. I have seen people invest into horrible shitcoins and you should sell them as soon as possible, otherwise they are going to drag you down as well.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

Just accept it, there is no other way because the Market is going to behave in that way all the time so we have to adapt to it then we know how to surf allong with such uncertainty which will help us to build the trading strategies so we can save money means we can make more money so end up in profits in the long run.

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This is a crypto business. There may always be an uncertain condition under which you have to continue your trading. There may be fewer businesses except for this one Where there are so many whales, so many ups and downs, so much chance to grow business, also many risks of losses. This is a business of courageous,brave, and Straight men.
The person who knows to play with risks. But at the same time , This is a favorite business of all ages. People love to do this business. There is something in this business that has made it attractive for all.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

The only way to manage your trade is to opt out of a trade onces the direction changes and never be of the assumption that a trade would revert because this has taken many accounts down. Get satisfied with the little profit made and set a profit target before embarking on any trade. No one has control over the market its only moved by demand and supply chain so limiting greed is just the surest way to manage a trade.

Opt-out of a trade could be a good way for traders as they do not know when the situation can go back to before. The key here is just to analyze so we know when the direction will change and determine what we should do. Sometimes the market is changing the direction but that is temporary and then the market is back on the right track. It is about how you can decide at the right time so you do not get lost in your money while you can wait for the next opportunity to buy the other coins at a low price. Yes, controlling greed will be good in this matter as that can help you take profit at the right time.

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The market is a highly volatile environment that raises predictability to a whole new level to keep it ahead of all traders, the complexity of it is such that, it's direction is influenced by these same traders and the whales. Fir this reason, the various trading platforms have designed the market to come with various and vatying analytical tools to give traders a blink into the possible realistic scenarios that can play out facing certain market conditions. One of those is the Take Profit (T.P) and Stop Lose (S.L). Which helps you to define a zone of comfortability in a rapid adjusting market. Though there are scenarios in which, either of these instruments could be jumped which implies that, you've don't have to completely rely on the tools and should be also vigilant as a trader.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

The only way to manage your trade is to opt out of a trade onces the direction changes and never be of the assumption that a trade would revert because this has taken many accounts down. Get satisfied with the little profit made and set a profit target before embarking on any trade. No one has control over the market its only moved by demand and supply chain so limiting greed is just the surest way to manage a trade.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

My strategy is quite simple. Buy when you think the price of the particular is worth more but you are getting at a lower price.
Wait for some days for momentum to build in the market. Take profits if the price goes up.
HODL if the price goes down. Don't know why people take so much stress when trading.

So you say that you wont get stressed with your trades and telling and wondering on why people do take much stress? Even veteran ones

would really be able to felt these things because uncertainties and doubts would really be there because we are just humans no matter how

you do held off that negative profit of a certain coin of yours then not everyone does have that level of patience thats why decisions
will really vary.

Holding while your portfolio is going down requires a good amount of self control and patience as you say.
But I think people should not stress over it much because there's no good in stressing and taking the pressure on yourself.
It won't change the numbers in red to green. So even if you are in a loss just be patient and learn how to improvise the trades.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

For me, trading exist because there are some volatility, that is why we can also use or utilize the volatility to take some profits.
But because of this uncertainties or volatilities, trading is very risky, yes, this is riskier than investment of holding.
However, actually there are some ways to manage and control this problem.
So far, at least we can:
- Prepare ourselves about the risks.
- Manage the funds to be traded, not all in, set only funds that we can afford to loose, don't use money for daily needs or important needs in the future, just use free money.
- Manage our emotions.
Emotions are very important in trading, too much emotion may lead us to panic, shock, sad, too happy, too angry, that will make us stressful. panic sel and panic buy also often happen in trading, so be careful, smarter and also wiser when trading.
- Manage how we set the target price and set the profits. We may not be too greedy. We can set certain target to fulfil the profits based on percentages.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

My strategy is quite simple. Buy when you think the price of the particular is worth more but you are getting at a lower price.
Wait for some days for momentum to build in the market. Take profits if the price goes up.
HODL if the price goes down. Don't know why people take so much stress when trading.

So you say that you wont get stressed with your trades and telling and wondering on why people do take much stress? Even veteran ones

would really be able to felt these things because uncertainties and doubts would really be there because we are just humans no matter how

you do held off that negative profit of a certain coin of yours then not everyone does have that level of patience thats why decisions
will really vary.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 21, 2021, 08:02:03 AM

This thread is primarily directed to discuss how traders manage trading uncertainties how do you manage to decide on your trading in a volatile market such as cryptocurrency where price can change within some seconds.

It is known that people are not really good at dealing with uncertainties and outcomes based on probabilities, for example what do you prefer a 100% chance to get 3k dollars or a 90% chance to get 3500 dollars? Most people will pick the 3k as it is a sure thing however the best option is the second one as on average it will give you 3150 dollars, trading is full of decisions like that and if you cannot take the correct decision most of the time then you are bound to lose money in the markets.

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