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Quote from: agustina2 on September 30, 2016, 04:52:48 AM

People can test some small amount on those new coins since it's cheap. So that if ever the coins go wrong the amount is not that hurtful. But don't do it continously since those small amounts that people loss is increasing and if they add it the amount can considered as decent one.

Manipulation is really present on those new coins since all are big whales since they got the coins for cheap. So they must take the monitoring closely so that they won't be late.

I agree with your strategy of trial and error with cheaper altcoins. Instead of going for altcoins which are less in cost, we can make use of free coins for our trading. This way, we could develop our trading skill for free of cost.

Having thorough drills must be very important for becoming expert in predicting and making accurate trading calls, so working on market continuously is very important, for that free coins must be the right resources for gaining experience.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 29, 2016, 11:27:47 PM

Other crypto really experiencing manipulation that's why analyzation are nothing when manipulation movement occurs.

But in terms of bitcoin, manipulation today in that crypto really goes in a hard way. So analyzation might consider as a guide on the next trader's move.

Yes, and its sad that some coins happens that way. It has a Pump and Dump group and those graps and trading volume are artificial results too. Dont be victim of this, you will know this when movement are seems being controlled. Still, study stable coins that you want to trade, and don't just buy any new coins since its new but it should have a good community support.

People can test some small amount on those new coins since it's cheap. So that if ever the coins go wrong the amount is not that hurtful. But don't do it continously since those small amounts that people loss is increasing and if they add it the amount can considered as decent one.

Manipulation is really present on those new coins since all are big whales since they got the coins for cheap. So they must take the monitoring closely so that they won't be late.

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Yes trading is unpredictable job really, its the way goes
price is volatile. Price is volatile because we could not tell
when the price will be higher than we expect it. Analyzation
is the key in trading to earn profit well. The traders is also the
important factor on the dumping, pumping scheme of the
price movement in the market.

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Trading is a very unpredictable job indeed but sometimes you got to rely on the luck a little bit too to carry you.
Not always skill will be enough especially not with trading you will have to take risks to get somewhere.

Others dont believe in luck. They say if you believe in good luck then there is the opposite of it too. So it would be better not to believe it and just rely on skills. But you cant change what traditions made to believe in luck.

well if the two combines much better for your investment aside from knowing how the movements works and the position got a good luck instead of having what you are expecting possible that it will rises up more.

YOu have to rely more on your skills. Good luck is just a bonus. You cannot rely on luck because you cannot always have good luck. Sometimes you have luck, sometimes you don't. But you can always rely on your skills, and you can cultivate it so that it can be sharper and serves you better.

Yeah learning skills and relying on these skills are important to get a steady income from trade and those who rely on luck for them trading is unpredictable and they do trade blindly without knowing anything about trade and assets.

Indeed it's super unpredictable if you don't know anything about the market but once you start to analyze the prices and behavior of certain assets then it's becoming more and more predictable every time.

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Quote from: bitlancr on September 30, 2016, 02:44:06 AM

Trading is indeed an unpredictable job if it wouldn't be then it would be easy and everyone and their mothers would be making profit.
Because it's unpredictable you need to be as good as you can to reduce the chance of failing that's why it's such a difficult activity.

The trading is not profitable for most people. It is only for the professionals to take money from the unprofessionals.

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Trading is indeed an unpredictable job if it wouldn't be then it would be easy and everyone and their mothers would be making profit.
Because it's unpredictable you need to be as good as you can to reduce the chance of failing that's why it's such a difficult activity.

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Quote from: MaritiJames3 on September 29, 2016, 04:50:23 PM

I am an active trader, but trading is not my job, i use it to get extra money and yes like the op presumes it is like that. Trading is unpredictable and by far anything safe. Even the most experienced traders lose money on their investments.

You are right, trading is truly an unpredictable job because the movement of prices are to volatile and you wont know when and where it will move. Agree even those experienced and veteran traders do definitely suffer from lossing trades which is normal in trading career.

Yes defeat in trade was uncertain. Prices in trade is uncertain and fluctuating so trade is unpredictable job. Although the work is unpredictable, we can still get great benefits as long as it will learn well.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 29, 2016, 11:27:47 PM

Other crypto really experiencing manipulation that's why analyzation are nothing when manipulation movement occurs.

But in terms of bitcoin, manipulation today in that crypto really goes in a hard way. So analyzation might consider as a guide on the next trader's move.

Yes, and its sad that some coins happens that way. It has a Pump and Dump group and those graps and trading volume are artificial results too. Dont be victim of this, you will know this when movement are seems being controlled. Still, study stable coins that you want to trade, and don't just buy any new coins since its new but it should have a good community support.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 29, 2016, 11:27:47 PM

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Quote from: bitlancr on September 29, 2016, 10:18:17 AM

Trading is only an unpredictable job if you have no skill in it because then you are just guessing what to buy when to buy when to sell etc if you analyze the market you'll have a rough idea ofcourse its still unpredictable but a lot less then with no skill.

Why trading expert still getting mistakes even they have trading skills?

It's not that it's unpredictable just because other people doesn't have skills. Analyzation sometimes might go wrong especially in crypto trading since price is much volatile compare to fiat trading.

which is normal from crypto i guess because theres some manipulation which is happening some big investors are playing at the back
and the movement is really hard to predict even good analyze has been made, thats might one of the cause why its harder inside
crypto trading.

Other crypto really experiencing manipulation that's why analyzation are nothing when manipulation movement occurs.

But in terms of bitcoin, manipulation today in that crypto really goes in a hard way. So analyzation might consider as a guide on the next trader's move.

I experience this times even i well predict the estimated range of price then manipulators go with it . So i do rather follow them as they go to make some profits ,that was too dangerous cause a wrong move will make you out of it .lose all your investment.
Taking to it go with manipulators and experience how they actually do when they pump or dump is a good thing to learn and to earn.

Trading is definitely a hard time to predict most of altcoins are manipulated or a group .the good thing is if you pick and hold the right coin which manipulators will go with your selling sets.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 29, 2016, 12:38:59 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on September 29, 2016, 12:23:48 PM

Quote from: bitlancr on September 29, 2016, 10:18:17 AM

Trading is only an unpredictable job if you have no skill in it because then you are just guessing what to buy when to buy when to sell etc if you analyze the market you'll have a rough idea ofcourse its still unpredictable but a lot less then with no skill.

Why trading expert still getting mistakes even they have trading skills?

It's not that it's unpredictable just because other people doesn't have skills. Analyzation sometimes might go wrong especially in crypto trading since price is much volatile compare to fiat trading.

which is normal from crypto i guess because theres some manipulation which is happening some big investors are playing at the back
and the movement is really hard to predict even good analyze has been made, thats might one of the cause why its harder inside
crypto trading.

Other crypto really experiencing manipulation that's why analyzation are nothing when manipulation movement occurs.

But in terms of bitcoin, manipulation today in that crypto really goes in a hard way. So analyzation might consider as a guide on the next trader's move.

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Quote from: MaritiJames3 on September 29, 2016, 04:50:23 PM

I am an active trader, but trading is not my job, i use it to get extra money and yes like the op presumes it is like that. Trading is unpredictable and by far anything safe. Even the most experienced traders lose money on their investments.

You are right, trading is truly an unpredictable job because the movement of prices are to volatile and you wont know when and where it will move. Agree even those experienced and veteran traders do definitely suffer from lossing trades which is normal in trading career.

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Quote from: MaritiJames3 on September 29, 2016, 04:50:23 PM

I am an active trader, but trading is not my job, i use it to get extra money and yes like the op presumes it is like that. Trading is unpredictable and by far anything safe. Even the most experienced traders lose money on their investments.

The only coin i know that has stability its bitcoin price is around 580- 620 dollars, and no one knows when the price will fail or up on these, the same happens with altcoins that are a big problem, some coins jump 300% and others 1000% and you dont know what to do if you join or left. I dont like trading, this week i made few satoshis with a coin i do believe it might be my gold chicken.

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I am an active trader, but trading is not my job, i use it to get extra money and yes like the op presumes it is like that. Trading is unpredictable and by far anything safe. Even the most experienced traders lose money on their investments.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 29, 2016, 12:23:48 PM

Quote from: bitlancr on September 29, 2016, 10:18:17 AM

Trading is only an unpredictable job if you have no skill in it because then you are just guessing what to buy when to buy when to sell etc if you analyze the market you'll have a rough idea ofcourse its still unpredictable but a lot less then with no skill.

Why trading expert still getting mistakes even they have trading skills?

It's not that it's unpredictable just because other people doesn't have skills. Analyzation sometimes might go wrong especially in crypto trading since price is much volatile compare to fiat trading.

which is normal from crypto i guess because theres some manipulation which is happening some big investors are playing at the back
and the movement is really hard to predict even good analyze has been made, thats might one of the cause why its harder inside
crypto trading.

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Quote from: Nolankane on September 27, 2016, 05:06:37 AM

Trading is a very unpredictable job indeed but sometimes you got to rely on the luck a little bit too to carry you.
Not always skill will be enough especially not with trading you will have to take risks to get somewhere.

Others dont believe in luck. They say if you believe in good luck then there is the opposite of it too. So it would be better not to believe it and just rely on skills. But you cant change what traditions made to believe in luck.

well if the two combines much better for your investment aside from knowing how the movements works and the position got a good luck instead of having what you are expecting possible that it will rises up more.

YOu have to rely more on your skills. Good luck is just a bonus. You cannot rely on luck because you cannot always have good luck. Sometimes you have luck, sometimes you don't. But you can always rely on your skills, and you can cultivate it so that it can be sharper and serves you better.

Yeah when luck smiles to you then be happy about that and when it doesn’t be mindful about that, don’t rely only on luck or you will suffer the consequences when it no longer smiles at you.

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Quote from: bitlancr on September 29, 2016, 10:18:17 AM

Trading is only an unpredictable job if you have no skill in it because then you are just guessing what to buy when to buy when to sell etc if you analyze the market you'll have a rough idea ofcourse its still unpredictable but a lot less then with no skill.

Why trading expert still getting mistakes even they have trading skills?

It's not that it's unpredictable just because other people doesn't have skills. Analyzation sometimes might go wrong especially in crypto trading since price is much volatile compare to fiat trading.

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Trading is no different from gambling, it still involve a lot of risk, but the only difference is that you can trade based on the news to predict which altcoins price will rise

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Quote from: newcoins1978 on September 29, 2016, 03:58:03 AM

Trading is not that unpredictable if you are good at it. You need to analyze and study the market and find and predict the next moves.
If you are one step ahead on the prices then you'll have a big advantage look for returning patterns aswell very important.

I agree with you, if we are smart analyze and have a good strategy, it will always make a profit every day.
especially if you have lots of money and have a trading group it is easy to manipulate prices along your group who has a lot of money too. so it will be easy to make a profit.

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You can still profit from scam coins.

Actually yes since they lasts for months, at least. Good for short term profits one.

But it's more risky so better choose those alts that has a good position and has a good volume everyday even the price is not that cheap to consider.

Yes agree, in altcoins we must use short term strategy, for wary scam coins especially for new coins that be launched usualy many coins that can be survive on markets and then they be delisting.

Yes new coins on ICO must be taken seriously cause obviously we don't know what will be the output of it as time passes by. Those others alts that already established good names where we can play with the price fluctuations is way more less risk than putting bucks on those new coins.

Generally, all trades must be taken seriously.

What is good with ICO are that they are very very cheap. So you can just spend 100K sats to acquire a lot of ICO coins. And if they get pumped later, it is very easy to make profit. Your 100k sats can easily gain x100 in profit. And if the ICO turns out to be a scam, the 100K sats is not too large for you to sweat the lose of it.

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Trading is only an unpredictable job if you have no skill in it because then you are just guessing what to buy when to buy when to sell etc if you analyze the market you'll have a rough idea ofcourse its still unpredictable but a lot less then with no skill.

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