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Quote from: fitty on February 11, 2017, 10:58:30 PM

Quote from: Babayega31 on February 11, 2017, 10:49:27 PM

Yes, trading really an unpredictable job to do and mostly wrong decisions could result to loss of profit. You can't when to buy or to sell because the trending of the altcoins market is very fluctuating and it also relying on the bitcoin price movement. In order to have that to be nearest to predictions is, you must be able to be updated on whats is happening to the trading site that you have invested shares. Be able to learn the ways of trading ways and seek advices from those who are experts of altcoins tradings.

Yes indeed. Trading is the war of highly intellectual decision makers. If you are weak, you are the victim of the pioneer in trading. They will just play with you until you surrender. In trading you must know how the movement of the market price works. And if Alt coin trading is being discussed. You MUST know what are the tactics the devs and the veterans are using to troll the noob traders to take advantage to them

I'd rather say it is the war between price manipulators for the money of the rest of traders. It is unlikely that it will the war between the manipulators themselves since they are not there for losses but for profits. If they see that there is no sure way to make money they will just stay away from trading. So the only possible way to trade successfully long term is to remain with the winning party

But unless you have an insider information, this is a very hard thing to accomplish

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

yes i do agree with you because in trading the results will be not same such as yesterday and possible too for that day you will experience to loss because you had wrong prediction

Yes that is why in trading we must have management of money and risk,
so we can doing cut lost if we are wrong in prediction of price.
So we are not too much losing money in trading because there is clear rules
for stop lost although trading is unpredictible job.

- Right, in trading, money management is very important. It helps us reduce risk, trading is unpredictable job, so I think we need to acceptable loss, I see a lot of people stubborn, do not accept losses and then they lose all
- I just want to say trading will have winners and will have the losers, we need to acceptable and do not be so stubborn

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

yes i do agree with you because in trading the results will be not same such as yesterday and possible too for that day you will experience to loss because you had wrong prediction

Yes that is why in trading we must have management of money and risk,
so we can doing cut lost if we are wrong in prediction of price.
So we are not too much losing money in trading because there is clear rules
for stop lost although trading is unpredictible job.

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Quote from: Babayega31 on February 11, 2017, 10:49:27 PM

Yes, trading really an unpredictable job to do and mostly wrong decisions could result to loss of profit. You can't when to buy or to sell because the trending of the altcoins market is very fluctuating and it also relying on the bitcoin price movement. In order to have that to be nearest to predictions is, you must be able to be updated on whats is happening to the trading site that you have invested shares. Be able to learn the ways of trading ways and seek advices from those who are experts of altcoins tradings.

In now situation of trading, indeed we should really be able to master the market price and are able to analyze the market price. That means we can't trade with alone, we must have the trading community to share any information about price market or other.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 09, 2017, 12:38:43 PM

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Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

I agree and I would vote for long term strategy. I think it's safer in terms of profit possibility and also lot less stressful. With short term and daily trading you have to be stuck for Bitcoin market 24/7 otherwise you might mis som realy important and lose money quickly so long term is better choice

Yes I agree with you, the beneficial of trading use long term strategy is we can not be traping in manipulation of price from the traders with large of capital,
the other beneficial of long term strategy in trading, we can know about the trend of price so we can follow the trend and never fight the trend.

As a trader we should really not go on opposite way of the trend and thats why we always seek for the best time to go with the trend. We cant easily find out if we dont have enough knowledge and experience on trading.Prices are really unpredictable thats why we should be careful.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 09, 2017, 12:38:43 PM

Quote from: densuj on February 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM

Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

I agree and I would vote for long term strategy. I think it's safer in terms of profit possibility and also lot less stressful. With short term and daily trading you have to be stuck for Bitcoin market 24/7 otherwise you might mis som realy important and lose money quickly so long term is better choice

Yes I agree with you, the beneficial of trading use long term strategy is we can not be traping in manipulation of price from the traders with large of capital,
the other beneficial of long term strategy in trading, we can know about the trend of price so we can follow the trend and never fight the trend.

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Quote from: Babayega31 on February 11, 2017, 10:49:27 PM

Yes, trading really an unpredictable job to do and mostly wrong decisions could result to loss of profit. You can't when to buy or to sell because the trending of the altcoins market is very fluctuating and it also relying on the bitcoin price movement. In order to have that to be nearest to predictions is, you must be able to be updated on whats is happening to the trading site that you have invested shares. Be able to learn the ways of trading ways and seek advices from those who are experts of altcoins tradings.

Yes indeed. Trading is the war of highly intellectual decision makers. If you are weak, you are the victim of the pioneer in trading. They will just play with you until you surrender. In trading you must know how the movement of the market price works. And if Alt coin trading is being discussed. You MUST know what are the tactics the devs and the veterans are using to troll the noob traders to take advantage to them.

I recommend to have a research first and to seek assistance and advice to expert ones (as discussed above).

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Yes, trading really an unpredictable job to do and mostly wrong decisions could result to loss of profit. You can't when to buy or to sell because the trending of the altcoins market is very fluctuating and it also relying on the bitcoin price movement. In order to have that to be nearest to predictions is, you must be able to be updated on whats is happening to the trading site that you have invested shares. Be able to learn the ways of trading ways and seek advices from those who are experts of altcoins tradings.

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Quote from: PacePay on February 10, 2017, 11:11:33 AM

Quote from: poetra2501 on February 10, 2017, 05:08:03 AM

Quote from: densuj on February 07, 2017, 11:22:32 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 07, 2017, 10:58:51 PM

Quote from: thunderbitz2717 on February 07, 2017, 01:22:04 PM

Trading is really unpredictable, because if all traders in the exchange site and every trader can predict all the price when will gonna increase or decrease the price value for sure many altcoins will face crisis even Bitcoin too.

Not only that, we will all be reach if trading is predictable. There are people who are good in trading but they cannot predict the price movement all the time, that is why they lose sometimes but knowledge and skills just give them a consistent profit in the long run. It's a job that we have to learn as we go along, and without developing our skills, we will not gonna end up profitable.

Also movement the price can be followed by traders with searce the trend and it can be done by practice trading on the markets we can get profit in trading with learning by doing too, prediction in trading without practice we don't know is it work or not.

We can learn more about trading with can analyze the market price, with the fundamental analysis
or technical analysis. By the way so we can predict where the direction of the prices of the coins it will move.

Yes that is right with that strategy a person will be able to predict that what will be the price of bitcoin in the coming week, month or year but if someone will start trade without any startegy and without any knowledge then or the trade is like gambling as he will not learn and all the things will be unpredictable for him.

yes that is right good strategy, experience, skill and knowledge can make prediction more easy and possible. there are so many people who have good experience and knowledge about bitcoin therefore i think they can give good prediction about bitcoin and such people can be called as bitcoin expert. as the most of their time spent in studying bitcoin.

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Quote from: densuj on August 01, 2016, 06:46:33 AM

There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

yes i do agree with you because in trading the results will be not same such as yesterday and possible too for that day you will experience to loss because you had wrong prediction

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Quote from: poetra2501 on February 10, 2017, 05:08:03 AM

Quote from: densuj on February 07, 2017, 11:22:32 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 07, 2017, 10:58:51 PM

Quote from: thunderbitz2717 on February 07, 2017, 01:22:04 PM

Trading is really unpredictable, because if all traders in the exchange site and every trader can predict all the price when will gonna increase or decrease the price value for sure many altcoins will face crisis even Bitcoin too.

Not only that, we will all be reach if trading is predictable. There are people who are good in trading but they cannot predict the price movement all the time, that is why they lose sometimes but knowledge and skills just give them a consistent profit in the long run. It's a job that we have to learn as we go along, and without developing our skills, we will not gonna end up profitable.

Also movement the price can be followed by traders with searce the trend and it can be done by practice trading on the markets we can get profit in trading with learning by doing too, prediction in trading without practice we don't know is it work or not.

We can learn more about trading with can analyze the market price, with the fundamental analysis
or technical analysis. By the way so we can predict where the direction of the prices of the coins it will move.

Yes that is right with that strategy a person will be able to predict that what will be the price of bitcoin in the coming week, month or year but if someone will start trade without any startegy and without any knowledge then or the trade is like gambling as he will not learn and all the things will be unpredictable for him.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on February 08, 2017, 09:06:53 PM

Trading is hard because there's no way to know where the bottom is or where the top is on any given day or week. You just have to make good judgments and don't panic buy or panic sell. It's best to wait for a spike in price to sell and a dip in price to buy back.

It is hard for the first time traders but if you are already in this type of earning you can adjust easily with it.

And there's no assurance that you are going to earn here if you are lack of ammo's so its your responsibility that you need to study the market.

Also the alt coins that you are going to buy, the profit is not constant because its changing from time to time but there are times that you can earn big and that's the advantage of it.

Do not trade with an amount of bitcoin that you took as loan unless you have other source to pay it from. Try to trade using your own money. Learn to manage your risk. Have stop loss placed at all time. Learn to set a stop loss and a target to exit a trade. THIS is very important and if you fail to follow this in trading, you may find yourself with an account that is wiped off.

Of course I won't use loaned bitcoins for trading there's no assurance that I can return the amount that I borrowed.

I always use my own funds when it comes to risk, investments or gambling so it didn't come to my mind that I need to borrow some.

Because I know that it is unpredictable and hard to promise that I can pay.

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Quote from: densuj on February 07, 2017, 11:22:32 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 07, 2017, 10:58:51 PM

Quote from: thunderbitz2717 on February 07, 2017, 01:22:04 PM

Trading is really unpredictable, because if all traders in the exchange site and every trader can predict all the price when will gonna increase or decrease the price value for sure many altcoins will face crisis even Bitcoin too.

Not only that, we will all be reach if trading is predictable. There are people who are good in trading but they cannot predict the price movement all the time, that is why they lose sometimes but knowledge and skills just give them a consistent profit in the long run. It's a job that we have to learn as we go along, and without developing our skills, we will not gonna end up profitable.

Also movement the price can be followed by traders with searce the trend and it can be done by practice trading on the markets we can get profit in trading with learning by doing too, prediction in trading without practice we don't know is it work or not.

We can learn more about trading with can analyze the market price, with the fundamental analysis
or technical analysis. By the way so we can predict where the direction of the prices of the coins it will move.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 09, 2017, 12:38:43 PM

Quote from: densuj on February 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM

Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

I agree and I would vote for long term strategy. I think it's safer in terms of profit possibility and also lot less stressful. With short term and daily trading you have to be stuck for Bitcoin market 24/7 otherwise you might mis som realy important and lose money quickly so long term is better choice

Even in short trading, you don't have to watch the market 24/7. You just have to check it out every once in a while. A dump doesn't happen in a matter of seconds. It happens in a matter of hours unless somebody sold a huge amount of coins all at once. If that's the case, even if you were watching the market 24/7, you couldn't have saved your coins at all since there's no moment to do so.

I would vote for trading that keeps an eye on the charts and do something about his coins when the price increases/decreases. You can earn way more coins that way.

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Quote from: richardsNY on February 09, 2017, 04:16:34 PM

Quote from: densuj on February 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM

Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

Money is a great motivator. If there is enough volatility going through the market then people will use it in their advantage. It requires concentration and a lot time, but for well experienced traders the profits outweigh the time and effort that is going into (day)trading. However, if there is no volatility during a day or two, then you should take distance from the market. Days with low volume/price movements are not worth it.

but only well expert investors can get the advantages from such situation, those people who do not take pressure and not coming in panic selling. and those people who understand the nature of the market. otherwise short term investment is too much risky if one do not have experience in short term investment.

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Quote from: densuj on February 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM

Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

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Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

Money is a great motivator. If there is enough volatility going through the market then people will use it in their advantage. It requires concentration and a lot time, but for well experienced traders the profits outweigh the time and effort that is going into (day)trading. However, if there is no volatility during a day or two, then you should take distance from the market. Days with low volume/price movements are not worth it.

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Quote from: densuj on February 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM

Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

I agree and I would vote for long term strategy. I think it's safer in terms of profit possibility and also lot less stressful. With short term and daily trading you have to be stuck for Bitcoin market 24/7 otherwise you might mis som realy important and lose money quickly so long term is better choice

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Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yes if you use short term strategy on trading activity, we must stay on monitor of computer
will be different if use long term strategy on trading activity, it is relax and don't need stay on
monitor of computers and taking much time for trading.

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Quote from: coins101 on February 08, 2017, 02:58:52 PM

Quote from: rickadone on February 08, 2017, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: Diced90 on February 07, 2017, 07:47:54 AM

Bitcoins price volatility accounts for its unpredictable nature and as a trader you need skills to be prudent to know when to hold or release coins and you need to stay informed with news surrounding the crypto world to have the edge.

Of course, the trading requires you to always keep an eye on the market and the news regarding cryptocurrencies I would say the require time as well, since the price of the cryptocurrencies is hard to predict that make the job of a trader even more harder but also rewarding and satisfying.

What makes it very difficult is that it's 24/7.

You've got to be very strict with your trading so you don't end up constantly wired on coffee, drugs and just a few hours sleep.

Yeah, the thing about trading is that you must have the time and the patience to keep watching the market and keep researching in order to ensure that you don’t lose, otherwise you will miss your chance and that will be a waste, it is risky if you jump in without having the experience nor the suitable time.

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Quote from: Mr.grin on February 09, 2017, 05:15:57 AM

we can not produce normal income with trading. very difficult to predict how much will we get, and how much of our losses. always uncertainty when looking for money by trading. without accurate information, it might be a big loss. well, with trading income, totally unpredictable

Trading is step by step procedure to learn, like me i started at 0.01 balance then first i lose many coins because of it but being hard worker and patience i can say that i can earn a good profit from trading, the only needs in trading is patience, good strategy ang trolling in the chatbox and salestalk and analyze if the coin is dead, sometimes the coin dev just dumping it and wait for few days it will pump big.

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