Topic: Trading Thread of Qora :: Second Generation Coin - page 4. (Read 7272 times)

doge is only 10 satoshi.
does qora famous than doge .
and qora num is 10 billion now.doge only 100 billion.

why qora can so expensive?

WTB qora @ 40 satoshi, 10-20 million

can use escrow, or i send first for trusted forum users

i was thinking about doing this job last night. if dzarmush dont want do it, then i will start a new thread.

Interesting. But does it actually work? I mean nobody knows if an offer is still available or deal has been closed.

I can't agree you more.

Ready buy some QORA.
Who want sell some QORA,please PM you offers.
thanks

@dzarmush, I suggest as the OP of this thread you modify the first post to keep track of bids & offers, if you have time. Otherwise people will need to bump bids & offers continuously and this thread will get out of control.

The monero thread is a good example.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-mro-monero-trading-thread-and-otc-xchg-578192

Ready to buy  Qora.
From 1mln.
Only escrow.
Pm me yours offers.

WTB 40 Million @ 35 satoshi = 14 bitcoins

so price is set at 50 satoshi, I would only sell 5million for urgent purpose at such price. PM me if u r interested.

I couldn't agree more. Shitcoins with 100 billion emission and absolutely no growing potential cost around 5-10 satoshi. Qora is the 2nd gen coin with new source and new POS algo (probably developed by BCNext) with 10B emission couldn't possibly cost lower than 50 satoshi. It's kind of a bottom price.

YES, 50 satoshi is the lowest price.

Nobody was aware of Nxt potential, that's why for the first week people sell 1M for 1Btc. I got in very early in Nxt but still I was only able to buy 200K for 1Btc and a week later the price exploded. Most part of distribution happened much later when Nxt hit Bter.


I think that Qora has a huge potential and see no reason to keep price close to zero which 15-25 satoshi is. It'll be better to distribute coins through bounties for development, marketing and nodes but keep the price over 60 satoshi. Everybody would win in this case.

15 satoshi, nobody want to sell.

You wouldn't be dumping them for nothing, you'd be growing a community - I thought you were one of the more insightful guys on this forum. A big pile of money can obviously mess with the mind, but at 100 satoshi I fear you pile of money will be a mirage.

If your opinion was to convince other Qora founders to hold out for 100 then I'll be waiting for a good Qora clone with a node distribution bot like NHZ horizon (wouldn't that be a great coin!), or the inevitable crash from Qora MK 1 (or both).

I think in 2-3 weeks 50 satoshi is reasonable, and after that (1-2 months) we would get to 100 sats.

But your primary goal NOW is growing the community, not making a profit in the next 1-3 days.

NXT survived because its founders deliberately sold low to the first wave of buyers. It's all documented in the trading thread of NXT

If Qora guys hold out for 100 sats as the opening price what will happen? How many NXT clones are there now? How many Qora clones will there be in 6 months.

You only get one chance to establish the network effect for 'this' version of Qora.

Good luck with that. I'd better pledge 20M coins for dev/marketing fund than dump them for nothing. Everything under 60-70 satoshi is just ridicuolus.

I saw so many people are talking about the price.
I think the 50 satoshi is acceptable price, Not too high, Not too low.

So if you really want to buy this coin, Plea talk about at 50 satoshi.

50 satoshi is reasonable.

Trolling ... this is business! Is the guy opposite in a business negotiation a troll? You're a bit too sensitive for this 'game' I think.

When someone in business calls 'troll' rather than offering a counter argument it shows they're a bit rattled.

Buyers hold the line, you don't need to pay 100 sats!

dzarmush has avoided attempting to reconcile his choice for a starting price for Qora of 100 sats, and the obvious problem that implies for new comers seeking to have a chance of making a decent return, and thus how Qora gets a community going.

He is saying my case for a 'starting' price of ~15 sats on the Qora price 'ladder' is obviously false, because I'm trolling, which looks a bit weak.

Good one dzarmush, now you can avoid trying to explain how Qora can grow a community when newcomers have next to no chance of making a decent return. Without a community you don't have Qora, and 150 guys isn't a community, and 100 sats at the bottom wont get you one in time before Qora dies on the vine.

I'm making a case using reason and recent history that your 'bottom rung' price on the Qora 'ladder' of 100 satoshi is too high to grow a community, and ultimately very damaging to Qora. You might disagree with my opinion but it's hardly trolling.

I know from experience people have different expectations about what represents a good deal, and many will see 10 satoshi as a good return, and if buyers stop and think. they'll realise this is a buyers market, and they'll hold off on getting caught in a bidding war with other buyers.

If buyers hold for a week or two SOME IPO guys will take a x10 return, and the starting price for Qora will be well below 100 satoshi. That's good for Qora, and good for me, and I'm trying to convince other buyers to think the same. It's business.

If your only argument is, 'he's a troll', it shows you have no answer to my reasoning. I put it down to NXT 73 fever.

Of course the Qora IPO guys have been mentally processing the idea that maybe this is a repeat of NXT, and so you're all going to get rich. Well for that to happen you need ~1500 people to buy into Qora in the next 10-14 days.

Calculate your return on the IPO for 100 sats, and then consider the likelihood that Qora can reach a marketcap of 45 Million USD in 1-2 months, which would give me a x10 return.

I think if anyone does both those calculations they can see your IPO return will be massive, and the next batch of Qora investors (i.e. guys like me) will probably get burned to a crisp when Qora crashes.

My current conclusion is your desire to repeat NXT founder history has clouded your thinking.

You need people like me to buy Qora much more than I need people like you to sell it to me. Why? Because history and experience tells me Qora wont reach 45 Million USD  marketcap within 9-12 months (maybe never), so chances are I won't make even x10 profit if I buy at 100, but you'll still make a massive profit (what is it by the way, I bet you have calculated it), so in this negotiation you have both the capacity to move in my direction, and the need.

Buyers can cool their heels and wait for more realistic sellers to enter the market

I repeat, this is a buyers market.

If you are here to buy keep your powder dry and wait - don't think the price is going to shoot up - no need for a panic buy if the starting price is 100 satoshi.

In 2 weeks if the Qora community is still ~150 people there will be a fire sale. Why? Because x10 return will be enough for some people, and they'll be scared Qora could die before they get a chance to convert it into bitcoins.

All reasoned arguments and opinions, not wishful thinking, or 'don't listen to this guy, he's a troll.

WTB 20 Million Qora @ 15 satoshi