Topic: Tradingview 2014 bubble forecasters (Read 2914 times)

Quote from: CEG5952 on July 15, 2014, 02:40:34 AM

Meanwhile the reality is that for about 2 months now I think, purchases at SecondMarket have been historically highly lackluster https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gbtc-bitcoin-investment-trust-observer-337486

And they will probably continue to be lackluster, until the bubble suddely is a fact and then everybody and their mother wants in. That's how bubbles work.

Sure, as far as retail/casual investors go. But smart money is often buying in during low volume/lull times. And I would think SM is one of the places for smart money (that doesn't want to sit money on shady exchanges or buy with slippage) to turn to.

When markets are moving this slow, smart money has time to accumulate in the least visible manner. This means contracts with miners and slow accumulation on exchanges.

Sure, that's what I was saying -- that smart money accumulates during low volume lulls. However, I would expect some of that accumulation to happen through venues like Second Market.

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Quote from: elebit on July 15, 2014, 02:16:12 AM

Quote from: elebit on July 15, 2014, 02:16:12 AM

Meanwhile the reality is that for about 2 months now I think, purchases at SecondMarket have been historically highly lackluster https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gbtc-bitcoin-investment-trust-observer-337486

And they will probably continue to be lackluster, until the bubble suddely is a fact and then everybody and their mother wants in. That's how bubbles work.

Sure, as far as retail/casual investors go. But smart money is often buying in during low volume/lull times. And I would think SM is one of the places for smart money (that doesn't want to sit money on shady exchanges or buy with slippage) to turn to.

When markets are moving this slow, smart money has time to accumulate in the least visible manner. This means contracts with miners and slow accumulation on exchanges. When the next bubble hits, the dumb money will find out the hard way that supply of coins will be nonexistent. Smart money will already have bought anything available at reasonable prices. Dumb money will be forced to sit on the sidelines or buy in at unreasonable prices.

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Buy and sell bitcoins,

Meanwhile the reality is that for about 2 months now I think, purchases at SecondMarket have been historically highly lackluster https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gbtc-bitcoin-investment-trust-observer-337486

And they will probably continue to be lackluster, until the bubble suddely is a fact and then everybody and their mother wants in. That's how bubbles work.

Sure, as far as retail/casual investors go. But smart money is often buying in during low volume/lull times. And I would think SM is one of the places for smart money (that doesn't want to sit money on shady exchanges or buy with slippage) to turn to.

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Quote from: wachtwoord on July 14, 2014, 08:14:37 AM

Meanwhile the reality is that for about 2 months now I think, purchases at SecondMarket have been historically highly lackluster https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gbtc-bitcoin-investment-trust-observer-337486

And they will probably continue to be lackluster, until the bubble suddely is a fact and then everybody and their mother wants in. That's how bubbles work.

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The thing with Silbert is, he has an interest in making it happen (to rake in fees for his fund) by telling the world it is actually happening, regardless if this is the truth or not, maybe because he imagines he can help contribute making it happen this way.

Meanwhile the reality is that for about 2 months now I think, purchases at SecondMarket have been historically highly lackluster https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gbtc-bitcoin-investment-trust-observer-337486

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Quote from: wachtwoord on July 14, 2014, 08:19:31 AM

Barry Silbert of SecondMarket also recently said: “I guarantee there will be another bitcoin price bubble.” Money is coming in in the near future, I know people were saying July/August, but its looking like this fall will be when prices start goign up again

Do you have a source? When did he say this?

This one

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Quote from: N12 on July 14, 2014, 08:18:21 AM

Quote from: wachtwoord on July 14, 2014, 08:14:37 AM

Quote from: N12 on July 14, 2014, 08:18:21 AM

Barry Silbert of SecondMarket also recently said: “I guarantee there will be another bitcoin price bubble.” Money is coming in in the near future, I know people were saying July/August, but its looking like this fall will be when prices start goign up again

Do you have a source? When did he say this?

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/230346

"We're three to six months away from Wall Street dollars moving into Bitcoin in a big way,"

Been a while, it was in December 2013.

So that was incorrect (and not recent).

It was from April (fairly recent) and yes it was the exact quote:
https://twitter.com/LogoDesign4BTC/status/453530103763730432

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Quote from: wachtwoord on July 14, 2014, 08:14:37 AM

Quote from: wachtwoord on July 14, 2014, 08:14:37 AM

Barry Silbert of SecondMarket also recently said: “I guarantee there will be another bitcoin price bubble.” Money is coming in in the near future, I know people were saying July/August, but its looking like this fall will be when prices start goign up again

Do you have a source? When did he say this?

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/230346

"We're three to six months away from Wall Street dollars moving into Bitcoin in a big way,"

Been a while, it was in December 2013.

So that was incorrect (and not recent).

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Barry Silbert of SecondMarket also recently said: “I guarantee there will be another bitcoin price bubble.” Money is coming in in the near future, I know people were saying July/August, but its looking like this fall will be when prices start goign up again

Do you have a source? When did he say this?

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/230346 though not this exact quote, but another similar one.

"We're three to six months away from Wall Street dollars moving into Bitcoin in a big way,"

Been a while, it was in December 2013.

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Quote from: wachtwoord on July 14, 2014, 04:59:12 AM

Barry Silbert of SecondMarket also recently said: “I guarantee there will be another bitcoin price bubble.” Money is coming in in the near future, I know people were saying July/August, but its looking like this fall will be when prices start goign up again

Do you have a source? When did he say this?

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Barry Silbert of SecondMarket also recently said: “I guarantee there will be another bitcoin price bubble.” Money is coming in in the near future, I know people were saying July/August, but its looking like this fall will be when prices start goign up again

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Moon?

Everybody on this forum and everyone in the world is not the same. It used to be that people outside of this forum did not invest in Bitcoin but that is a long time ago and becoming less true every day.

This. We are approaching the point where BTC will be ready to go into mass adoption mode.

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Quote from: colinistheman on July 11, 2014, 01:38:33 PM

Mine:

https://www.tradingview.com/v/aA0zaAFD/

ongame7: https://www.tradingview.com/v/tBecsTcW/

Both have similar outcomes.

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Quote from: MoreFun on July 14, 2014, 05:02:50 AM

Yea, but media on the low prices definetly wasn't bullish, so this should resemble to general bitcoin investor also.

I mean that this forum could be euphoric while the world is still bearish

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Yea, but media on the low prices definetly wasn't bullish, so this should resemble to general bitcoin investor also.

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Quote from: MoreFun on July 14, 2014, 04:53:04 AM

Quote from: wobber on July 14, 2014, 04:37:27 AM

Quote from: MoreFun on July 14, 2014, 04:36:12 AM

Quote from: wobber on July 14, 2014, 04:37:27 AM

Seems that all TAs show that a bubble is emerging soon. But I ask, if everybody expects a bubble, could it not happen only because of that?

There is really a majority thinking that the next one is coming very soon, which was not the same at all before previous bubbles. Roll Eyes

Exactly. I could bet nothing will happen until everybody turns bearish.

Yea, but we already were at this "everybody bearish" level with china shit and $400 and sub level.

Everybody on this forum and everyone in the world is not the same. It used to be that people outside of this forum did not invest in Bitcoin but that is a long time ago and becoming less true every day.

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Quote from: MoreFun on July 14, 2014, 04:36:12 AM

Quote from: MoreFun on July 14, 2014, 04:36:12 AM

Seems that all TAs show that a bubble is emerging soon. But I ask, if everybody expects a bubble, could it not happen only because of that?

There is really a majority thinking that the next one is coming very soon, which was not the same at all before previous bubbles. Roll Eyes

Exactly. I could bet nothing will happen until everybody turns bearish.

Yea, but we already were at this "everybody bearish" level with china shit and $400 and sub level.

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Seems that all TAs show that a bubble is emerging soon. But I ask, if everybody expects a bubble, could it not happen only because of that?

There is really a majority thinking that the next one is coming very soon, which was not the same at all before previous bubbles. Roll Eyes

Exactly. I could bet nothing will happen until everybody turns bearish.

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