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Quote from: lophie on February 12, 2015, 07:54:20 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on February 12, 2015, 07:39:28 AM

It will eventually be included when the coin age gets high enough. A miner can decide which transaction to be included in the block that he mines.

I disagree. You forgot a transaction might expire from memory. So it must be rebroadcaster when that happens. This might be up to a week! I am telling you it happened before for me personally and the tx expired after 3 days. Didn't confirm. Just disappeared. REgarding the double spend that happened with me it was for 10 BTC and it was from Mt. Gox. My tx did not confirm for about 12 hours then they double spent the coins so my tx went invalid and disappeared into oblivion. They confirmed it and resent it later on.

A transaction will expire from memory assuming if it doesn't get rebroadcasted for a few days. And I stated "Depending on your client's behavior, it may rebroadcast till it gets included into a block." I guess it was due to my phrasing, I wanted to say that the transaction will eventually be included if the client rebroadcast it.

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Quote from: ranochigo on February 12, 2015, 07:39:28 AM

It will eventually be included when the coin age gets high enough. A miner can decide which transaction to be included in the block that he mines.

I disagree. You forgot a transaction might expire from memory. So it must be rebroadcaster when that happens. This might be up to a week! I am telling you it happened before for me personally and the tx expired after 3 days. Didn't confirm. Just disappeared. REgarding the double spend that happened with me it was for 10 BTC and it was from Mt. Gox. My tx did not confirm for about 12 hours then they double spent the coins so my tx went invalid and disappeared into oblivion. They confirmed it and resent it later on.

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Quote from: lophie on February 11, 2015, 11:28:15 PM

Just a note that 0 FEES transaction may not be included AT ALL at times of transaction volume. It happened before to many and it happened to me personally several times. If you can wait and resend then why not! if not come on tip the miners a couple of cents man!

The priority has to be at least 57,600,000 to be included in the block. Depending on your client's behavior, it may rebroadcast till it gets included into a block. It will eventually be included when the coin age gets high enough. A miner can decide which transaction to be included in the block that he mines.

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Just a note that 0 FEES transaction may not be included AT ALL at times of transaction volume. It happened before to many and it happened to me personally several times. If you can wait and resend then why not! if not come on tip the miners a couple of cents man!

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Quote from: elephantas1 on February 11, 2015, 08:19:57 AM

i see. thank you for this information locking the thread as everything is solved now

No problem, any time.

I always include 0.0001 BTC though...

I funny example on large tx fee is the bitstamp hack, you could see on the transaction "floating" out of bitstamp that they had a 1 BTC transaction fee.
Kinda waste of bitcoins, but I am sure that the miners was happy about it Grin

I also assume that these transactions was included in first available block.

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i see. thank you for this information it can be locked now as everything is solved

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Quote from: elephantas1 on February 11, 2015, 08:14:30 AM

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Quote from: elephantas1 on February 11, 2015, 08:10:58 AM

and here goes the second confirm pheeew you guys really scared me for a moment

Nothing to be scared of, I see nothing wrong with your tx.
As far as I can see it was also under 1000 bytes, so tx fee is not needed.
But if you are in a hurry and you want to increase your chances of your transaction to be included in next block,
then is a tx fee a good idea to include.

well it always included it when i was sending smaller amounts like <0.05 and now i sent bigger and it somehow didnt include the fee by itself

Look at this one, this is one of your previous "small transactions":
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a58445f1fac87cf5320218c15f300446ca36a0c9866775f6a7f4715755d9b49

The input is 5100 bytes, so a fee is need if you want to make sure a miner picks it up.

But this one (you just send) is a "large transaction":
https://blockchain.info/tx/54d3de88267fedea6e1f97e1c0fdde472234e31b8fe6e42563db9e565b60d766

But the input is only 257 bytes.

Its not the amount of bitcoin that determine if it is a "large" or "small" transmission, it is the size of actual data in the transmission (from a miners point of view).

Edit: maybe it was a bad example with the "small transaction", since you actually have 0.3 in it, but the point is the same.

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Quote from: TookDk on February 11, 2015, 08:13:08 AM

Quote from: elephantas1 on February 11, 2015, 08:10:58 AM

and here goes the second confirm pheeew you guys really scared me for a moment

Nothing to be scared of, I see nothing wrong with your tx.
As far as I can see it was also under 1000 bytes, so tx fee is not needed.
But if you are in a hurry and you want to increase your chances of your transaction to be included in next block,
then is a tx fee a good idea to include.

well it always included it when i was sending smaller amounts like <0.05 and now i sent bigger and it somehow didnt include the fee by itself

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Quote from: elephantas1 on February 11, 2015, 08:10:58 AM

and here goes the second confirm pheeew you guys really scared me for a moment

Nothing to be scared of, I see nothing wrong with your tx.
As far as I can see it was also under 1000 bytes, so tx fee is not needed.
But if you are in a hurry and you want to increase your chances of your transaction to be included in next block,
then is a tx fee a good idea to include.

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and here goes the second confirm pheeew you guys really scared me for a moment

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Quote from: Passprot on February 11, 2015, 07:55:57 AM

0 Fee ?
that means you need to be patient and pray someone bring your 0 fees transaction sir

You are not require to pay fee.
Miners are not required to include your transaction.
Actually miners are not required to include any transactions at all no matter how large the tx fee is.

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Quote from: elephantas1 on February 11, 2015, 08:03:12 AM

IT GOT CONFIRMED https://blockchain.info/tx/214259ac2d480a287fc25d8cc1238c26e678a10be95396c1b62053afd8d11b07

fck yeah

EDIT: dang it i need two confirms :DD

you are lucky it only takes 28 minute with 0 fees sir Cheesy

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IT GOT CONFIRMED https://blockchain.info/tx/214259ac2d480a287fc25d8cc1238c26e678a10be95396c1b62053afd8d11b07

fck yeah

EDIT: dang it i need two confirms :DD

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Afaik 0 fee means:
With some luck, it should be processed in 3-5h.
With a lot of bad luck, it could take even 3 days.

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No fee? Yes that's definitely the problem. AFAIK there's nothing you can do now, wait until it confirmed (might be a very long time).

These thread might be useful
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-all-about-unconfirmed-0-confirmation-transaction-fee-read-before-posting-232979
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-happens-to-unconfirmed-transactions-blockchaininfo-186737

Quote from: kjj on April 24, 2013, 04:19:16 PM

All you can do is hope that a miner takes pity on your transaction and includes it. Or, you can offline your wallet, delete the transaction, wait until the rest of the network has forgotten it, then pop back up and use the rawtransaction API to redeem that input (with some others) back to your wallet.

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The top of this section has some info:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-all-about-unconfirmed-0-confirmation-transaction-fee-read-before-posting-232979

If you have the tx id that is useful

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Quote from: Passprot on February 11, 2015, 07:55:57 AM

0 Fee ?
that means you need to be patient and pray someone bring your 0 fees transaction sir

but blockchain did not include it i did not do anything different just filled address and amount and press send

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0 Fee ?
that means you need to be patient and pray someone bring your 0 fees transaction sir

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What is your tx id?

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my transaction does not get confirmed even though already 3 blocks were mined. i sent 0.1 btc and it did not include any fee could that be the problem? It say that

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Estimated Confirmation Time Very Soon (High Priority

any help?

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