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Topic: FAQ: All About Unconfirmed 0 Confirmation Transaction Fee (READ before posting!) (Read 158721 times)

legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1028
Join the club. I figure $800+ would be handled in under and hour. I guess not...

https://blockchain.info/tx/9d3971f59c4dfcf9f7f6f42e826703596e3aa219947f650ae7956947353d992c

Isnt it great that the amount you transfer doesnt matter?

Isn't it great that the monetary amount you transfer doesn't affect the data or processing cost to network members, or cost of disk space that nodes must allocate to store your transaction forever?

Well, anyway, the commentary should be that if it was important to have processed quickly, then paying a larger-than-default fee would have been a much smaller percentage of this non-trivial amount.

Post pretty old...very interesting. Thought the unconfirmed Transaction thing is a recent phenomenon. Think Op should update the post to meet current reality

My amendments below to the first post's points still stand valid - don't experiment with paying the lowest fees possible for important transactions:

Notice: If you want a payment to go through in less than several hours, increase your Bitcoin client's optional/voluntary fee to something higher than 0.0001/kB default fees for all transactions. Priority is given to higher fee transactions.
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The first-post instructions for removing a transaction and re-sending a new one with fees apply only if the original transaction was created with a "bad" client, or if it was sent while attempting to bypass Bitcoin fee rules. Removing a transaction record from your client and re-sending another transaction will likely do you little good. The network won't soon "forget" your original transaction if it is properly constructed, will recognize a new transaction as attempting to double-spend the same money, and will discard the new transaction anyway.

The Bitcoin white paper doesn't say anything about free or cheap transactions, this came from Bitcoin promoters while it was still true. In fact, reasonable and balanced fees are necessary to discourage trivial transactions and to replace the shrinking block rewards paid to miners. The economics of this are competitive and self-correcting - as more transactions pile up, more fees are needed for timely confirmation. What hasn't happened in the last five years is exponentially cheaper hard drives or processors that could have kept Bitcoin data growth less expensive.
Ucy
sr. member
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Merit: 401
Post pretty old...very interesting. Thought the unconfirmed Transaction thing is a recent phenomenon. Think Op should update the post to meet current reality
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.
Join the club. I figure $800+ would be handled in under and hour. I guess not...

https://blockchain.info/tx/9d3971f59c4dfcf9f7f6f42e826703596e3aa219947f650ae7956947353d992c

Isnt it great that the amount you transfer doesnt matter?
sr. member
Activity: 531
Merit: 250
full member
Activity: 277
Merit: 100
I ❤ Mastern✿des
I have been waiting over a week now   Shocked

https://blockchain.info/tx/eb4bbc38b826858fdfc1db05d0888b38a5484199620762d1cf7f20513664f7c9

sent from blockchain.info the transaction seems to be rebroadcasting the transaction, preventing it from expiring because the date keeps changing

was the 15th, then the 19th and now the 23rd

will it ever expire and be forgotten?
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
Have been perusing several of these "unconfirmed transaction" threads yet don't think I have seen my forthcoming question asked quite this way:  In order to make an unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction drop more quickly from the memory pool; should I leave my Bitcoin Core wallet shut down (turned-off/not running)? I have done -zapwallettxes twice and the transaction is still there (it's been 48 hours). Also, 'abandon transaction' is grey'd out on my left-click menu. I am running Bitcoin 0.14.0 (64-Bit).

I ignorantly had this happen once previously, but did not catch my (at the time purely unknowing) mistake for several days. (Unsubstantial transaction fee Roll Eyes )

This time I more or less did it deliberately  Grin  Roll Eyes  and was wondering if there were any other options besides waiting the 72+ hours to be able to resolve this.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
waiting 24hours already and more,my friend is waiting 48 hours

dont know what to do  Huh Huh
Check this review for viabtc tx accelerator service http://coinour.com/index.php/review-viabtc-bitcoin-transaction-accelerator/
In case you have any question, you could pm me.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 1023
Cashback 15%
waiting 24hours already and more,my friend is waiting 48 hours

dont know what to do  Huh Huh
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 12
I was waiting from noon about five hours and jump to
https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
After two hours I got my confirmation finaly.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
Can anyone tell me a wallet thats is not as expensive  as blockchain?
With the Blockchain.info wallet you can set the amount of fee manually
staff
Activity: 3374
Merit: 6530
Just writing some code
Can anyone tell me a wallet thats is not as expensive  as blockchain?
All wallets will require that you send a transaction fee. The transaction fee does not go to the wallet developers or the service running the wallet but rather to the miner who confirms your transaction. The fee is really an incentive for the miner to include your transaction sooner rather than later.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Can anyone tell me a wallet thats is not as expensive  as blockchain?
staff
Activity: 3374
Merit: 6530
Just writing some code
I withdrew it from a games website , and it was automatic withdrawal , so typically i do not have control over adding fee or if btc reverted to do anything. please suggest me what to do
Contact Quickseller and macbook-air as I said in my first response to you.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Thanks for the reply..  the fee added was sufficient..
No it is not. Your fee is ~65 satoshis/byte. According to http://bitcoinfees.21.co/ the current recommended fee is 100 satoshis/byte.

still its showing pending.. is it possible that i may lose these BTC ?
No. Bitcoin does not just "disappear" or magically become lost due to an unconfirmed transaction. Either the transaction will be "forgotten" and your wallet will revert to a state where that transaction never happened (i.e. it "returns" to your wallet) or the transaction will confirm and the Bitcoin will go to the intended recipient.

I withdrew it from a games website , and it was automatic withdrawal , so typically i do not have control over adding fee or if btc reverted to do anything. please suggest me what to do
staff
Activity: 3374
Merit: 6530
Just writing some code
Thanks for the reply..  the fee added was sufficient..
No it is not. Your fee is ~65 satoshis/byte. According to http://bitcoinfees.21.co/ the current recommended fee is 100 satoshis/byte.

still its showing pending.. is it possible that i may lose these BTC ?
No. Bitcoin does not just "disappear" or magically become lost due to an unconfirmed transaction. Either the transaction will be "forgotten" and your wallet will revert to a state where that transaction never happened (i.e. it "returns" to your wallet) or the transaction will confirm and the Bitcoin will go to the intended recipient.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
I have a transaction , ID 8aa4db7b1454f019d3a56a57a67ef511d934c40277f73163888f3db81cb250a3  unconfirmed even after 3 hours. Is waiting , only option. Both the wallets ( origin and destination ) are web wallets.
Since you are using a web wallet, you likely don't have much control so it will be difficult or impossible to perform an RBF transaction. All you can do is wait. You can try contacting Quickseller and macbook-air as they are known to have been able to help people with this.

Thanks for the reply..  the fee added was sufficient.. still its showing pending.. is it possible that i may lose these BTC ?
staff
Activity: 3374
Merit: 6530
Just writing some code
I have a transaction , ID 8aa4db7b1454f019d3a56a57a67ef511d934c40277f73163888f3db81cb250a3  unconfirmed even after 3 hours. Is waiting , only option. Both the wallets ( origin and destination ) are web wallets.
Since you are using a web wallet, you likely don't have much control so it will be difficult or impossible to perform an RBF transaction. All you can do is wait. You can try contacting Quickseller and macbook-air as they are known to have been able to help people with this.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
My transaction has remained unconfirmed for 19 hours. Originally sent using Electrum wallet w/ a fee of 0.00011382 BTC for 225 bytes.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7683eaf16ee48fe4034b413859f94f928499be66f04cecf588b20d8d1a95786c/

Attempted a fss-rbr using coinb.in but wouldn't go through. Followed these steps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycq7O48aPvQ

All my funds are in the same wallet and I don't want to attempt another transaction and have it stuck as well. Any help?

Your fee of 50 satoshi per byte is half of what is recommended which is 100 satoshi per byte. It may confirm soon but there's no guarantee. If you want it to be confirmed faster try doing what I posted here.

I have a transaction , ID 8aa4db7b1454f019d3a56a57a67ef511d934c40277f73163888f3db81cb250a3  unconfirmed even after 3 hours. Is waiting , only option. Both the wallets ( origin and destination ) are web wallets.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 503
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My transaction has remained unconfirmed for 19 hours. Originally sent using Electrum wallet w/ a fee of 0.00011382 BTC for 225 bytes.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7683eaf16ee48fe4034b413859f94f928499be66f04cecf588b20d8d1a95786c/

Attempted a fss-rbr using coinb.in but wouldn't go through. Followed these steps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycq7O48aPvQ

All my funds are in the same wallet and I don't want to attempt another transaction and have it stuck as well. Any help?

Your fee of 50 satoshi per byte is half of what is recommended which is 100 satoshi per byte. It may confirm soon but there's no guarantee. If you want it to be confirmed faster try doing what I posted here.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
My transaction has remained unconfirmed for 19 hours. Originally sent using Electrum wallet w/ a fee of 0.00011382 BTC for 225 bytes.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7683eaf16ee48fe4034b413859f94f928499be66f04cecf588b20d8d1a95786c/

Attempted a fss-rbr using coinb.in but wouldn't go through. Followed these steps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycq7O48aPvQ

All my funds are in the same wallet and I don't want to attempt another transaction and have it stuck as well. Any help?
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