Topic: Transaction not found when accelerating with VIABtc? HELP please! (Read 1154 times)

Yep I'm sorry for my statement. It's just that I'm in a sense of urgency to pay my bills since my other source didn't arrive until now. I'm a little bit sensitive and I hope you understand. I'm kind of a "worry-type" guy.

You should be grateful that they do this for free, really, no matter what the restrictions are.



Some are greedy, some have troubles like you, some help people with troubles like yours. Your statement is not really fair...
There are too many transactions that "need help".

UPDATE

Final TXID successfully accelerated. My new recent payment was also accelerated successfully.

Now I can finally pay my bills on time

I'm started to get annoyed with ViaBTC because of submission limit per hour. I only have two TXIDs left before receiving my money:

[1]ac9a7e825ddb43f2f26c5018edbba804a97944a882baa1b853f60c29d7b0f3db --> This is the one I want to accelerate now before the one below
[2]a871fc14eecbae818a99581af8eeb2cf0173875dd5ebe0a664ff459f1044b8d1

These 100 people per hour have no mercy nor giving me a chance. They're greedy nowadays. How could I pay my bills on time if they don't give me a chance to accelerate?

Okay thanks for the tip @HCP for tracking back the red U's. So that means I cannot accelerate the ones with the red U's yet, and I finally understand. I have successfully accelerated the 1st parent a4f76f6c820e8ed7dab4ab09939d77993c7c7365ca13a56c544937791619d53c with ViaBTC and now waiting for the next two to clear from the red U. I'm now learning a lot.

Also thank you @mocacinno for guiding me through this. Now I'm going to do the same for my upcoming payments later on. Will update this thread if I successfully received it till the last TXID.

Just a quick tip: IF the dependance chain is "clean" (no double spends, no dust outputs, no child/parent transactions broadcasted in reverse order, no 0-fee tx's, no really weird situations), it should be in my mempool.
If it is, you can use this beta tool to look up the full chain:

https://www.mocacinno.com/showchain.php?txid=a871fc14eecbae818a99581af8eeb2cf0173875dd5ebe0a664ff459f1044b8d1

In this case, you are correct (didn't doubt you in the first place, just wanted to give everybody a faster way to look up these chains)

Transaction a871fc14eecbae818a99581af8eeb2cf0173875dd5ebe0a664ff459f1044b8d1 depends on following transactions:
Array
(
   

• => a4f76f6c820e8ed7dab4ab09939d77993c7c7365ca13a56c544937791619d53c
[1] => f55049d3db713b7077bc3a0c7bc33fba22fe49121da8baf4dde78fb6c83a9d7a
    [2] => ac9a7e825ddb43f2f26c5018edbba804a97944a882baa1b853f60c29d7b0f3db
)

You need to track back through all the Red U's... that is the full chain of unconfirmed parent transactions... until each and every one of those is confirmed, your transaction will not be able to be confirmed (or accelerated).

I think there are like 3 unconfirmed parents...

Ok but how many times should I click Output? Only once? Or until there are higher parents that have no red "U"?

Thanks for the heads up.

Near the red U (in advanced mode) you can see (0.26027836 BTC - Output). Click the Output link.
Reminder: for advanced mode you can click on "show scripts and coinbase".

I'm glad for the new turn of events. Your employer is not a fraud after all.

Edit: there's still quite a chain of unconfirmed transactions you'll have to wait to confirm and the fees are still small.

UPDATE

Since it was rejected by node, it was returned back to the sender. He sent me again the amount this time with a higher fee.

https://blockchain.info/tx/a871fc14eecbae818a99581af8eeb2cf0173875dd5ebe0a664ff459f1044b8d1

How can I find the parent transaction of this one? In Coins.ph, it finally appears that I am receiving this amount "waiting for confirmation". Unlike the first send, it doesn't appear. So this one has a chance. However, it still says that transaction does not exist.

Please HELP! I want to learn how to find this parent transaction. Thanks!

UPDATE

It says transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.

What does this mean? Are these bitcoins I receive now lost? Are they voided? Please HELP!

Thanks!

I do really hope that this one goes through. You did your best explaining to me about some weird Blockchain tech stuff here. Thanks to both of you.

I just tuned in on this topic again, seems like you already explained a bit about CPFP, thanks
As for your statement about blockchain.info: i can vouch that i received a couple of PM's from people i've worked with in the past that describe similar problems. Since i wasn't the beneficiary in these cases, i have the strong urge to believe them, and indeed conclude that blockchain.info is doing some weird stuff..

blockchain.info had indeed issues in the recent past, but most were only "display" problems.

blockchain.info is a block explorer (shows transactions) but also has online wallet functionality.
Today I've read indeed a post that somebody was complaining that lately some of the transactions he sent out from blockchain.info wallet became unexpectedly double spends.

I don't know if it's the same guy, I don't know if the claim is real (sorry, I learned to believe in nobody), but if he's right, other people's wallets on blockchain.info may be affected by the same issue.
If you trust this guy and it's not the first time he pays you, give him more time; you don't really have much other choice either...

Edit: if he wants to learn, tell him to download Electrum wallet, transfer all his funds there (or import the private keys) and use that to pay you. This way he can chose better the fee/byte and also can send all the payments in one transaction, saving a little on fees.

I've already talked to the guy who paid me. he claimed that he didn't spend a double transaction for himself, but these tech stuff you showed me states that it is double spend.

I'm quoting his messages:


What about other wallets? Do they have the same issue? or is it only Blockchain only?


Here are his other recent transactions to the other guys he paid:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f55049d3db713b7077bc3a0c7bc33fba22fe49121da8baf4dde78fb6c83a9d7a
https://blockchain.info/tx/ac9a7e825ddb43f2f26c5018edbba804a97944a882baa1b853f60c29d7b0f3db

He also wants to know what's going on, as both of us aren't really understanding some technical stuff (but willing to learn).

No, but ViaBTC stated that they will/may not accelerate transactions that are doublespend (like 966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88) or with unconfirmed parent (like 618fd46987cf54d8b61f05408708962fcb60a4a21f574f8a5a01106298f3c5a4).
Both a4f76f6c820e8ed7dab4ab09939d77993c7c7365ca13a56c544937791619d53c and 966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88 have pretty small fee (about 3x smaller than the best fee) so the "lucky" one will need some more time to get confirmed. 966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88 seems to have better fee than the "competition" so you may get lucky.

Oh my god, I tried accelerating 966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88 you suggested and it says "Acceleration failed" at exact 9:00 AM forum time. I also tried 618fd46987cf54d8b61f05408708962fcb60a4a21f574f8a5a01106298f3c5a4 and says the same too. Does this mean it's already voided?

How about accelerating 966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88 at ViaBTC?
I gave it a try and I've got the "beyond limit" message, not the "tx not exist" which I'd expect for a tx that they can't or don't want to accelerate (I know that double spends are in this list).

Also does CPFP works for longer chains of transactions or only for one level?

OP: I've heard of CPFP pretty recently and I never experimented it. It's "Child pays for parent"; some reading could start here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4odi90/can_someone_explain_cpfp_child_pays_for_parent/

I respect him because he pays me every time I finish my task, and I never doubt him for giving me this weekly opportunity and pays me at the same time. Last time, the transaction was delayed for 3 days and successfully accelerated it with ViaBTC. This is just one latest payment that seems to have some issues when accelerating. I'm not the only one who work for him, as he claimed there are others who are also working.

Hmmm can you explain what CPFP is all about?

This is turning into a big cluster here...
Somebody (probably the guy paying you), had an unspent output that he could spend, namely the output of (confirmed) transaction 2b6892629f357dc2ab26ee2d1dcea7c7cf5a6772e40ed1857b55bf57a5c01190

He used this one output to create 2 new transactions, namely 966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88 and a4f76f6c820e8ed7dab4ab09939d77993c7c7365ca13a56c544937791619d53c... Both transactions use the same input, thus are double spending it, meaning only one of the two transactions can actually ever end up in a block, as soon as it does, the other one gets voided since it now uses an input that is no longer in the UTXO.

Both transactions use the same input, but also generate the same outputs, albeit, one of the two has a smaller output to the change address (thus a bigger fee)
The problem is that the outputs of both double spending transactions are now used to generate 2 new transaction chains...

966d9a0be165593850e90e1c42adbfdf1a475b893a617425dfa0eb0af81dca88 is a parent for
618fd46987cf54d8b61f05408708962fcb60a4a21f574f8a5a01106298f3c5a4 is a parent for
fce42478c33fc984c6acbb0242fec68061f0521f3211db491975549b4bf3e7d1
Addresses receiving funds from this chain: 33gvwFn2qMwCf3FnRBAN3w4eQP5AhVW1SQ, 39UJnWMpVKyegPJxotDZEVrrwGtXcygkB9, 19przVDzBdPYCUeqfEKACmWTRinNgDReCS

AAAAND

a4f76f6c820e8ed7dab4ab09939d77993c7c7365ca13a56c544937791619d53c is a parent for
f55049d3db713b7077bc3a0c7bc33fba22fe49121da8baf4dde78fb6c83a9d7
Addresses receiving funds from this chain: 33gvwFn2qMwCf3FnRBAN3w4eQP5AhVW1SQ, 3Lvd22fLHeari3VqHZjVcT4DHHJRTY4bAR

One of these chains is going to get voided sooner or later, and everybody payed by the voided chain will be a victim... It's pretty hard to predict which chain will get voided.

Your possible sollutions are rather minimal... You could contact the guy paying you and point out the problem or you could try a CPFP, altough i have no idear how to do this with an online wallet (like coin.ph). I don't think a lot of miners will be able to help you... Since most of the transactions had a sub-standard fee, you might get lucky if both transactions get dropped from the mempool of most nodes before a miner decides to put them into the block he/she is working on.