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legendary
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June 25, 2015, 05:38:47 AM
#35
done Undecided, now must wait until transaction disappeared from blockchain? and  then import p.key again?
legendary
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June 25, 2015, 05:14:48 AM
#34
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
You won't lose any of your Bitcoins as long as you export your private key and keep it at the safe place. I however, highly doubt that blockchain.info is rebroadcasting it. If you looked at the relayed by IP, it isn't blockchain.info who relayed it. Even if you remove your private key, if the person doesn't stop rebroadcasting your transaction, your transaction will stay there until its confirmed.
and how I can remove private key, I can't find this option.
To backup, you go to import/export and click export unencrypted. Select Bitcoin-Qt as the format and copy everything. Save it into a textfile and into  somewhere safe. If you're scared, just copy it to a piece of paper and verify 6 times you copied it correctly*. Then, go to recieve money then click the "actions" beside the address you want to remove. Click archive address. Then go to archive, select that address and click delete keys.

Do this at your own risk. I doubt if it would help but you can try.
* A single letter wrong can result in the loss of Bitcoin.
thanks you for detail info, key I have already saved, only now question I found two choice: 1.delete private key only and 2.  delete address and p. key?
Delete address and private key should do the job.
legendary
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June 25, 2015, 03:21:35 AM
#33
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
You won't lose any of your Bitcoins as long as you export your private key and keep it at the safe place. I however, highly doubt that blockchain.info is rebroadcasting it. If you looked at the relayed by IP, it isn't blockchain.info who relayed it. Even if you remove your private key, if the person doesn't stop rebroadcasting your transaction, your transaction will stay there until its confirmed.
and how I can remove private key, I can't find this option.
To backup, you go to import/export and click export unencrypted. Select Bitcoin-Qt as the format and copy everything. Save it into a textfile and into  somewhere safe. If you're scared, just copy it to a piece of paper and verify 6 times you copied it correctly*. Then, go to recieve money then click the "actions" beside the address you want to remove. Click archive address. Then go to archive, select that address and click delete keys.

Do this at your own risk. I doubt if it would help but you can try.
* A single letter wrong can result in the loss of Bitcoin.
thanks you for detail info, key I have already saved, only now question I found two choice: 1.delete private key only and 2.  delete address and p. key?
legendary
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June 25, 2015, 03:07:42 AM
#32
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
You won't lose any of your Bitcoins as long as you export your private key and keep it at the safe place. I however, highly doubt that blockchain.info is rebroadcasting it. If you looked at the relayed by IP, it isn't blockchain.info who relayed it. Even if you remove your private key, if the person doesn't stop rebroadcasting your transaction, your transaction will stay there until its confirmed.
and how I can remove private key, I can't find this option.
To backup, you go to import/export and click export unencrypted. Select Bitcoin-Qt as the format and copy everything. Save it into a textfile and into  somewhere safe. If you're scared, just copy it to a piece of paper and verify 6 times you copied it correctly*. Then, go to recieve money then click the "actions" beside the address you want to remove. Click archive address. Then go to archive, select that address and click delete keys.

Do this at your own risk. I doubt if it would help but you can try.
* A single letter wrong can result in the loss of Bitcoin.
legendary
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Merit: 1548
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June 25, 2015, 03:06:48 AM
#31
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
You won't lose any of your Bitcoins as long as you export your private key and keep it at the safe place. I however, highly doubt that blockchain.info is rebroadcasting it. If you looked at the relayed by IP, it isn't blockchain.info who relayed it. Even if you remove your private key, if the person doesn't stop rebroadcasting your transaction, your transaction will stay there until its confirmed.
and how I can remove private key, I can't find this option.
what yu want to say ? remove private key Undecided
are you seriously, we can't remve it, that originallly bitcoin and no 1 can remove it
or "remove key" means that delete wallet?
legendary
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June 25, 2015, 02:55:30 AM
#30
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
You won't lose any of your Bitcoins as long as you export your private key and keep it at the safe place. I however, highly doubt that blockchain.info is rebroadcasting it. If you looked at the relayed by IP, it isn't blockchain.info who relayed it. Even if you remove your private key, if the person doesn't stop rebroadcasting your transaction, your transaction will stay there until its confirmed.
and how I can remove private key, I can't find this option.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
Crypto Swap Exchange
June 25, 2015, 02:43:54 AM
#29
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
You won't lose any of your Bitcoins as long as you export your private key and keep it at the safe place. I however, highly doubt that blockchain.info is rebroadcasting it. If you looked at the relayed by IP, it isn't blockchain.info who relayed it. Even if you remove your private key, if the person doesn't stop rebroadcasting your transaction, your transaction will stay there until its confirmed.
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1548
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June 25, 2015, 02:39:15 AM
#28
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
or here reliable information? maybe you have link to source? I want try, but I afraid that loss all.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
Crypto Swap Exchange
June 25, 2015, 02:20:58 AM
#27
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
This wouldn't work if anyone is constantly rebroadcasting the transaction. Different client has different behavior, for blockchain.info, they stop broadcasting after 24 hours and the transaction will be dropped out of the mempool, it is never cancelled.
full member
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June 25, 2015, 01:54:49 AM
#26
Your transaction still not confirmed Huh
how many time this transaction, someday i ever try send withou fee (electrum wallet) confirmed  only in 2hours
hero member
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June 24, 2015, 08:54:00 PM
#25
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?

i've read this somewhere in this forum, you must have a copy of your private key and list it somewhere, delete your private key in the blockchain.info account of yours and wait until the transaction gets canceled and then import again your private key
legendary
Activity: 3514
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June 24, 2015, 07:01:54 PM
#24
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
but how to stop, that not more rebroadcaste?
hero member
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June 24, 2015, 04:46:44 PM
#23
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?

When the uncomfirmed transaction disappear from your wallet history, the coins are "back" to your wallet. Technically, it never left because your transaction was not accepted by any miner.
legendary
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June 24, 2015, 03:20:45 PM
#22
Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.
"some time"- pass over 48 hours and nothing Sad

Your transaction is gone from blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

But still available on 2 other blockexplorers:
http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

If you do not broadcast the transaction again, I think it will most likely be dropped from mempool soon. When it does, create new transaction and remember to add a fee. You said you used blockchain.info wallet to send that transaction, login in your wallet and see if the unconfirmed transaction is gone from your history.
You can still find that transaction on blockchain.info... I'm looking at it now.  It appears it was rebroadcast.
yes, and new send time, Interestingly enough, at the time when transaction  the gone from blockchain, amount back to wallet, or it disappears from everywhere?
legendary
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June 24, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
#21
Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.
"some time"- pass over 48 hours and nothing Sad

Your transaction is gone from blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

But still available on 2 other blockexplorers:
http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

If you do not broadcast the transaction again, I think it will most likely be dropped from mempool soon. When it does, create new transaction and remember to add a fee. You said you used blockchain.info wallet to send that transaction, login in your wallet and see if the unconfirmed transaction is gone from your history.
You can still find that transaction on blockchain.info... I'm looking at it now.  It appears it was rebroadcast.
hero member
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June 24, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
#20
Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.
"some time"- pass over 48 hours and nothing Sad

Your transaction is gone from blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

But still available on 2 other blockexplorers:
http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/3a1657951df6fd70420f1d769cea1f3c413240fb898bbee08ea028547be4459e

If you do not broadcast the transaction again, I think it will most likely be dropped from mempool soon. When it does, create new transaction and remember to add a fee. You said you used blockchain.info wallet to send that transaction, login in your wallet and see if the unconfirmed transaction is gone from your history.
legendary
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June 24, 2015, 12:16:50 PM
#19
if you send tx with zero fees then there is no fixed time it will take for confirmations
it may take hours,days or may be it will never confirmed.
always send transaction with fees to support the nextwork and miners

what you mean "never"? like never ever? Is technically possible, that TX with 0 fee will never be confirmed? I really don't think so..
You had to throw that word "technically" in there, didn't you? Tongue

Whether a transaction is included is completely up to the miner, or the pool if it is delegating work.  Technically, miners could not ever bother to confirm a transaction with no fees, since it offers no incentives to do so.  Now, if you generated that transaction from the core software, it will continually rebroadcast it.  Other wallets will at some point in time stop broadcasting it.

yeah, I had to, because humans statements "never" is little bit different than technically "never" .))

anyway, thanks for explanation...I really didn't expect that 0 fee TX may take 2 days.. Embarrassed SEPA within Europe is faster and free (at least in my bank) omg..
legendary
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June 24, 2015, 12:11:39 PM
#18
As a side note: This will become more of an issue as the block reward goes down and miners become more dependent on fees. I would not get into the habit of sending zero fee Tx's.
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
June 24, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
#17
if you send tx with zero fees then there is no fixed time it will take for confirmations
it may take hours,days or may be it will never confirmed.
always send transaction with fees to support the nextwork and miners

what you mean "never"? like never ever? Is technically possible, that TX with 0 fee will never be confirmed? I really don't think so..
You had to throw that word "technically" in there, didn't you? Tongue

Whether a transaction is included is completely up to the miner, or the pool if it is delegating work.  Technically, miners could not ever bother to confirm a transaction with no fees, since it offers no incentives to do so.  Now, if you generated that transaction from the core software, it will continually rebroadcast it.  Other wallets will at some point in time stop broadcasting it.
legendary
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June 24, 2015, 11:20:59 AM
#16
Transaction fee is taken but if it is without transaction fees then it might take some time.
"some time"- pass over 48 hours and nothing Sad
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