Does the real woman know she will be up against a transgender? Did she agree with it? If that's the case then it won't be a problem. She may want to prove women are stronger than men.
Even Ronda in her prime will have a hard time if it is a man he will be fighting with.
First, they will have almost the same weight, height, and reach to make a match. But there's a big difference if in his/her past life he was a man and was built already. There should be a different league or bracket for them. They may only have a problem with the amount of fighters.
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Absolutely disgusting what society is saying is alright these days. This bitch of a man needs to stop beating up women for money and come to the realization that you can cut off your dick but that doesn’t make you a women. These liberal mental illnesses have gotten way out of hand. How far are we gonna let these idiots drag down our society and race?
^ LOL, definitely right. It is totally different with the strength of the women compared to the transgender women, they are still in a man's strength and nothing will change. I don't know why they let this happen, it totally unfair to the women's side if this will continue. It should be a transgender vs transgender match, not this. If they will let this happen on the next match, there should be a big protest from the women athlete, and this obviously not be tolerated in society, it is totally a wrong match.
so this match was supposed to be all girls but there is one that is rumored to be a guy ?
but we cannot say that it was a sure win for him because there are also girls that are stronger than men but before it , i dont think they will allow the match if found out that the other competitant was a male .
in a pro match like mma they will do all necesary test and they will found out the real gender of each other . afterall i voted for not fair in the poll
but we cannot say that it was a sure win for him because there are also girls that are stronger than men but before it , i dont think they will allow the match if found out that the other competitant was a male .
in a pro match like mma they will do all necesary test and they will found out the real gender of each other . afterall i voted for not fair in the poll
That's weird. He transformed his body into a woman but still wants to participate in a combat sport. Why don't he retain his natural born gender.
No matter how the science have transformed him into a woman, what tissues and internal parts have been changed, still that's a body of man which is basically much stronger than the women.
I'm not against trans or whatever they call it the 3rd gender should know there place and limits.
No matter how the science have transformed him into a woman, what tissues and internal parts have been changed, still that's a body of man which is basically much stronger than the women.
I'm not against trans or whatever they call it the 3rd gender should know there place and limits.
this is the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XEtqNS3XE
this is just the fight of Alana Mclaughlin vs Celine Provost recently, the fight isn't on sports bet sites though, it's from Combate Global but if it was, it's a sure-win bet. the fight sparks a lot of debate in social media about its fairness because and it might raise your eyebrows as well because history is that Alana Mclaughlin was once a US Army special force to which his real name is Alan Mclughin.
I also think it's unfair.this is just the fight of Alana Mclaughlin vs Celine Provost recently, the fight isn't on sports bet sites though, it's from Combate Global but if it was, it's a sure-win bet. the fight sparks a lot of debate in social media about its fairness because and it might raise your eyebrows as well because history is that Alana Mclaughlin was once a US Army special force to which his real name is Alan Mclughin.
As much as medicine has currently advanced to "remove" all testosterone from an "ex-man" and it's also possible to carry out tests to prove it, I believe that the physical form of a trans person will never be the same as that of a person who has always been a woman for life. It's unfair.
Anyway, the sport in general still needs to evolve a lot on this issue and this will be controversial for a few more years, let's follow up.
Absolutely disgusting what society is saying is alright these days. This bitch of a man needs to stop beating up women for money and come to the realization that you can cut off your dick but that doesn’t make you a women. These liberal mental illnesses have gotten way out of hand. How far are we gonna let these idiots drag down our society and race?
How about the testosterone level of the trans? Still predominant I guess so even if you say that they are in the same weight and height, she got an advantage already since this is the DNA that really separates the men from women.
This is probably some marketing ploy in part of the organisation, to attract viewership who are curious to see what will be the result of such match.
This is probably some marketing ploy in part of the organisation, to attract viewership who are curious to see what will be the result of such match.
Everyone knows the fact that male muscles work sort of different which makes them easily tougher or stronger. Personally I don't mind if male feels female but I am not convinced such equality, not checking biological differences. I sometimes think that maybe transexuals should have their own type of competition because I don't want to see them abused either. It is very complicated situation and hard to say any definite answer. But letting them compete with females is obvious mistake.
I don't care if the females don't care. It is their league. If they don't protest this, why would anybody else care? They went full woke, now it is the pay back time. If this continues, those trans people soon will overtake female sports and you won't find a born female participant. Since I don't even watch any female sports other than the beach volleyball, nothing of value has been lost. Beach volleyball is however, my red line. If those freaks (no offense to my trans friends) manage to make their way to that, I might join the protests.
They may soon cross the line, we already have it in the Olympics and we have it in Miss Universe, so they are taking over where a woman is dominating, they should create their own sports organizations, why invade the territory of women, we should protest fairness in the sport, even if they are backed by science that they can compete it's hard to take that logic, in the back of our minds we all know that the match is not equal.
For me it's not fair because it would be unfair for them that in terms of strength, they either have the advantage or disadvantage, I mean South Park did a great episode about letting the Trans community join the same league, I say, we give them their own league like how we separate men and women's league, they should have their own league to compete.
I also think that transgender people shouldn't be allowed to compete against men or women, because obviously that would be very confusing and unfair, even though he's transgender but he still has the same physique and strength as a man so when he beats a woman like he does made by Alana McLaughlin in the game, it was clearly not a fair match at all.I'm not even sure the male fighters will want to fight him in the arena
, so it would be better if they were given their own league of transgender people.
Why did they let this happen because it's business and they don't want to lose followers and the organizations don't want to be labeled as racist or sexist and gender inequality, this is not fair imagine if they have a champion that is a transgender the title will lose the credibility and many transgender will join to compete and women will be left out.
For me it's not fair because it would be unfair for them that in terms of strength, they either have the advantage or disadvantage, I mean South Park did a great episode about letting the Trans community join the same league, I say, we give them their own league like how we separate men and women's league, they should have their own league to compete.
I don't think a match like that in any sport will get a point of justice. although I believe that in the match that happened, he had already passed the examination for more dominant hormone levels and or physically appeared to be a woman to get approval to participate in the match. but in body resistance and energy produced by the gender of women and men are still different.
I would probably prefer if the match were to be classified into a special transgender class. and not mixed in the women's class. I'm sure it will be more interesting because it's a professional match, not a rehearsal or a match that only cares about showing.
I would probably prefer if the match were to be classified into a special transgender class. and not mixed in the women's class. I'm sure it will be more interesting because it's a professional match, not a rehearsal or a match that only cares about showing.
Don't say that out loud or you will be accused of being sexist.
I have stumbled upon people who would ignore all facts and base their opinions on their feelings and I've been called a lot of things for what I believe regarding the topic and I realized that it's better to just ignore it. besides, being in this forum thought me that members here actually can have a decent conversation even if the one they are arguing is against what they believe in.anyway, this topic reminds me of a thread I posted before regarding a trans woman being approved to join the women's football league in Argentina.
If that match was offered on sportsbook then the odds would've been one sided
yep, especially if the trans woman is properly trained. 
I don't care if the females don't care. It is their league. If they don't protest this, why would anybody else care? They went full woke, now it is the pay back time. If this continues, those trans people soon will overtake female sports and you won't find a born female participant. Since I don't even watch any female sports other than the beach volleyball, nothing of value has been lost. Beach volleyball is however, my red line. If those freaks (no offense to my trans friends) manage to make their way to that, I might join the protests.
Next time the trans is on the list, you can just bet on the trans for easy money. That's what I think before I watch the fight. The fight went pretty even though. Alana wasn't like beating the shit out of Celine, and (s)he only won by submission. BUT, this interview confirms trans women have an unfair advantage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBGnjoWdo8
So if the technique gap is wide, the "real" women can still have a chance.
So if the technique gap is wide, the "real" women can still have a chance.
If we are talking solely about force of each fighter. They should be equal or fair since they are on same weight class. F=m*a so basically they are equal but this is MMA and each player has a unique fighting style. I think the transgender has an advantage but not that great to the point that he can surely win the match. Remember both fighter undergo on training specifically on for this kind of fight so I believe this not a total unfair but rather some minor advantage.
Looking at his track record. He still loss to a woman so my hypothesis has some point.
Looking at his track record. He still loss to a woman so my hypothesis has some point.
I guess that is not fair because the power will still be different.
If they want to join the MMA, maybe they should fight with the other transgender people and not with women.
But if that is illegal fighting available only at the underground fighting, maybe that can be allowed as the fighter will meet with the other fighter, no matter if they are man or woman.
Hopefully, there are clear rules for MMA so transgender will not fight with real women.
If they want to join the MMA, maybe they should fight with the other transgender people and not with women.
But if that is illegal fighting available only at the underground fighting, maybe that can be allowed as the fighter will meet with the other fighter, no matter if they are man or woman.
Hopefully, there are clear rules for MMA so transgender will not fight with real women.
Yes it is indeed must needed that they should add trans division for them to face each others because we knew that there are many trans that wanted to partake but they don't know in which category they deserve.
also while there are no available spots for their divisions then they must face their own level in which male division because they only change their gender but their physics remain as Man and stronger compared to woman.
also while there are no available spots for their divisions then they must face their own level in which male division because they only change their gender but their physics remain as Man and stronger compared to woman.
Having a trans division in any sports related I guess is much way better than allowing a trans women to compete in a women's division category type of game. We do promote a gender equality but we all know that a man's body physique was much stronger to a woman. Though Alana Mclaughlin is now seen as a women but there's some internal feature to her that has an advantage with her opponent. But there's also some aspect that we need to consider like that this fight were agreed by both parties and for sure the other opponent know this info but still they do agree then I think there's no cheating on the said game that Mclaughlin committed.
This is a consequence of the ideological garbage that wants to equalize what is not equal.
And I say this without having any religious beliefs myself, for example, I am in favor of gays being able to marry too, but things like this are way out of line.
Don't say that out loud or you will be accused of being sexist.
I would like to see the proof, because the problem is that when science is previously ideologized, it can end up demonstrating what suits the ideology. Did the woman born with a penis have chromosome 23 XX?
And I say this without having any religious beliefs myself, for example, I am in favor of gays being able to marry too, but things like this are way out of line.
....it's insane and unfair for real women fighting in MMA
it's obviously not fair.
They are still Man in which not fair for the women opponent
It's not fair and that's basically it.
...it's clearly unfair ...
Don't say that out loud or you will be accused of being sexist.
Honestly, I find this quite complicated since I read an article about trans who were born men but scientifically proven as living in a women's body.
I would like to see the proof, because the problem is that when science is previously ideologized, it can end up demonstrating what suits the ideology. Did the woman born with a penis have chromosome 23 XX?
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