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January 27, 2025, 08:43:31 AM
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When online gambling gets a license from the government the users of the gambling site pay more attention to the site and feel comfortable using the gambling site as according to the users it is safe for them. I think they feel safe as they think these gambling sites can't scam as they are regulated.
its not that they do not think these casinos are incapable of scamming them but rather if they indeed do scam them since these casinos are licensed, it will be easier to report and make sure that the victims are compensated. If you get scammed from a non licensed casino, you have no one to run to and you can blame no one else but yourself.
It never ensures security for the players, but at least we know they have accountability and a person in contact in case a scam happens. In fact, that is what we want, as we trust them, and it was their obligation to show transparency. Having a license is a ticket that can be used to gain trust and maintain the good reputation of the whole gambling industry. That is why gamblers look at the legitimacy of the site before making deposits. Because even if we lose, at least we are certain that it was fair.
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When online gambling gets a license from the government the users of the gambling site pay more attention to the site and feel comfortable using the gambling site as according to the users it is safe for them. I think they feel safe as they think these gambling sites can't scam as they are regulated.
its not that they do not think these casinos are incapable of scamming them but rather if they indeed do scam them since these casinos are licensed, it will be easier to report and make sure that the victims are compensated. If you get scammed from a non licensed casino, you have no one to run to and you can blame no one else but yourself.
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If you make a profit from a sports betting site in the long term, then in 99% of cases you will be blocked. Unfortunately, this is the situation with gambling in our country. And the regulator just turns a blind eye to it. So what is the point of these licenses?
Depends on where you live, in Europe. Then you're in luck!
If your country has a gambling agency that is on par with the UK, you are able to fill a complaint and provide the data, there are organizations that would help you file a case against them in court and if you indeed are being wronged by the casino they will try to reach a settlement rather than risking their license. A gone license means blocking the whole country so loss of money and a red flag for other countries too.

Now for playing in a casino that is unlicensed, you risk the same happening with no help and on top of that you might experience other problems when h the IRS equivalent asks you how you got money from someone who is not supposed to operate there.

But the most important thing is thinking why this casino is not getting a license or has one rejected, that should be the first thought when accessing it.

I don't think a legit casino would do such practice even in online casinos. Because the word of mouth is very fast. So if there is casino which is doing such practice, it will spread like fire and gamblers will avoid that casino. And it is not good for their reputation. Hence, they will be out of business if they will continue to have that kind of reputation.
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If you make a profit from a sports betting site in the long term, then in 99% of cases you will be blocked. Unfortunately, this is the situation with gambling in our country. And the regulator just turns a blind eye to it. So what is the point of these licenses?

Depends on where you live, in Europe. Then you're in luck!
If your country has a gambling agency that is on par with the UK, you are able to fill a complaint and provide the data, there are organizations that would help you file a case against them in court and if you indeed are being wronged by the casino they will try to reach a settlement rather than risking their license. A gone license means blocking the whole country so loss of money and a red flag for other countries too.

Now for playing in a casino that is unlicensed, you risk the same happening with no help and on top of that you might experience other problems when h the IRS equivalent asks you how you got money from someone who is not supposed to operate there.

But the most important thing is thinking why this casino is not getting a license or has one rejected, that should be the first thought when accessing it.





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National licensing bodies for gambling games seem to be focused on certain aspects of gambling that might seem very peculiar to a regular gambler that has gotten accustomed to gambling online with crypto over the past few years.

For instance, government licensing bodies may be focusing on income statements for "protection" or taxation.
This is a very stark contrast to what standards the crypto gambling industry holds itself up to.

It's interesting to observe that while crypto casinos avoid placing any limits on gambling such as requiring income statements or taxing profits... They are holding themselves to very high standards by implementing provable fairness on their original games and many even going as far as to publish the RTP of their slots games.

Bricks and mortar casinos these days are featuring e-slots and many e-games versions such as blackjack, roulette etc. but almost never are transparent with the odds. And the same goes with many nationally licensed online casinos too. The only provably fair game online casinos will have is Crash, and that's even IF they are running it under the proper license and not just stealing the concept without authorization.

Statistically speaking, most gamblers these days play on casinos licensed by their country's government for many reasons.
But in terms of transparency, crypto casinos that usually are licensed under more permissive offshore licenses (or maybe not even licensed at all) have standards of transparency that are much higher.

Wow, now isn't that just hilarious that crypto gets such a bad rap (or used too- feel like the tides are changing!) and they hold themselves to even stricter standards than that of land based casinos. This just baffles me. On the other side of the coin though they also probably have way more legit KYC and Anti Money Laundering for governments that are much more stringent simply because they deal primarily in crypto transactions & are much more subject to audit probably for that reason. So bacially playing in that field has forced them to hold higher standards because crypto is much more strickly regulated (or one day soon will be).
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Somehow these gamblers seem to find more confidence in been able to gamble at the government approved or licensed casino because they believe accountability will come with such casinos as they have the government to contend with if they at some point get involved in any form of malpractice but like you said they actually get smart with their odds and the crypto casinos may not get involved in such because adding crypto to their casinos alone gives them an edge to generate some extra funds and so it becomes absolutely unnecessary to get involved in odds manipulations.
When online gambling gets a license from the government the users of the gambling site pay more attention to the site and feel comfortable using the gambling site as according to the users it is safe for them. I think they feel safe as they think these gambling sites can't scam as they are regulated.
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In my opinion, in any type of activity, you need to focus on the most important things. At the same time, unimportant things can be safely ignored.

In the activities of online casinos, licensing is far from the most important thing for a player. What is more important is the honesty of the founders of the online casino, the ability to withdraw funds at any time without problems. In my country, it is not customary to trust the government.

Therefore, I do not really understand what benefit online casino licensing can bring to me (as a player). Personally, I do not see a direct connection between casino licensing and my comfortable gambling. These things, in my opinion, are not connected in any way.

Therefore, all other things being equal, I will choose an online casino without a license if all other conditions that I apply to an online casino meet my expectations.
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For instance, government licensing bodies may be focusing on income statements for "protection" or taxation.
This is a very stark contrast to what standards the crypto gambling industry holds itself up to.

The gambling industry is mainly about gambling, crypto is just a medium of transferring the money from the players to the bookies and so on.

If crypto gambling were more like crypto in general you would firstly have no centralized casino and bookie, then you would not have custodial wallets, no kyc, and of course no central authority. But gambling is a business, the website is run by a company so it must adhere to the laws of the country it operates just like normal gambling casinos do.
Imagine I would run a pharmacy in a country and just because I deal only with crypto I would not let any government rule how I run my business, to whom I sell medicine and never disclose my accounts to the IRS, would that be normal?  Grin


 
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For instance, government licensing bodies may be focusing on income statements for "protection" or taxation.
This is a very stark contrast to what standards the crypto gambling industry holds itself up to.

It's interesting to observe that while crypto casinos avoid placing any limits on gambling such as requiring income statements or taxing profits...
I disagree with you about this point, from my experience national casinos are way less intrusive than crypto casinos asking KYC, at least in my country. For example the exact same picture of my passport has been accepted without difficulty by the national online casino I'm currently using while an offshore casino has asked me to send a selfie of me holding it with a paper showing my username and the today's date after I sent it for finally rejecting it saying it's too blurry. And for the proof of residence they offer to freely send a mail to the customer's physical address containing a one-time code, if you don't want to send them private documents. I've never seen such option from an offshore casino up to now.
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 The goal of these transparency practices is to protect players, maintain the integrity of the industry, and promote trust between the casino, its customers, and the regulatory bodies that oversee their operations.
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Statistically speaking, most gamblers these days play in casinos licensed by their country's government for many reasons.
The logic is you can easily file a complaint because of the location and the decision is faster and you will not spend a lot of money than when you're going to complain offshore.
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But in terms of transparency, crypto casinos that usually are licensed under more permissive offshore licenses (or maybe not even licensed at all) have standards of transparency that are much higher.
Its always been on the requirement place by your license issuer, and besides the license, its always on the preferences of the casinos to keep up with a highly competitive industry like gambling; players will always go for transparent casinos.
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Statistically speaking, most gamblers these days play on casinos licensed by their country's government for many reasons.
But in terms of transparency, crypto casinos that usually are licensed under more permissive offshore licenses (or maybe not even licensed at all) have standards of transparency that are much higher.

The most interest of gamblers that attracts them to play on the licensed casinos of their governments could be basically reason that their governments has always been concerned of it citizens by which they implements casino policies that considers transparencies within the accordance parties in the casinos.
Most especially if the regulatory policies focuses on justifications Incase of comprise between the cainsos and the gamblers. So, gamblers would have that insights of such licensed casinos to be legitimate and reliable to their best interests of playing with them without panicks.
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Statistically speaking, most gamblers these days play on casinos licensed by their country's government for many reasons.
number one reason i can think of is because it is the safest in terms of not having to worry about getting in trouble with the government
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But in terms of transparency, crypto casinos that usually are licensed under more permissive offshore licenses (or maybe not even licensed at all) have standards of transparency that are much higher.
i think this is only a generalization because some casinos that are not licensed do not operate that honestly either maybe some that are very well deep in within their community but we can not deny that there are really some questionable and suspicious ones

we just need to find good and reliable ones no matter what kind of casino we want to go for
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To be honest, getting national or other licenses often does not make the casino work better, although in theory it should. I look at the casinos and bookmakers in my country and I see a lot of abuse from bookmakers, for example. What upsets me most is the blocking of the accounts of those players who are successful. If you make a profit from a sports betting site in the long term, then in 99% of cases you will be blocked. Unfortunately, this is the situation with gambling in our country. And the regulator just turns a blind eye to it. So what is the point of these licenses?
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Statistically speaking, most gamblers these days play on casinos licensed by their country's government for many reasons.
But in terms of transparency, crypto casinos that usually are licensed under more permissive offshore licenses (or maybe not even licensed at all) have standards of transparency that are much higher.
Somehow these gamblers seem to find more confidence in been able to gamble at the government approved or licensed casino because they believe accountability will come with such casinos as they have the government to contend with if they at some point get involved in any form of malpractice but like you said they actually get smart with their odds and the crypto casinos may not get involved in such because adding crypto to their casinos alone gives them an edge to generate some extra funds and so it becomes absolutely unnecessary to get involved in odds manipulations.
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Since most casinos are licensed in Curacao, they must abide by the laws of Curacao. If they want to provide their services in any country, they must abide by the gambling laws or rules related to gambling in that country or they will be restricted there.

Activity licenses mean to users that the casino is subject to certain laws in which it has met several conditions, and through which it can be held accountable in case of any problems.

By the way, I am interested to know two things. First, whether other entities besides Caracao accept to grant licenses for online casinos. Second, what are the conditions for obtaining licenses from Caracao and why it seems so easy.

Curacao accepts licenses for online casinos and most casinos get the licenses from Curacao. And gambler trusts those gambling sites that have licenses from Curacao. Also, the sites that have taken licenses from gambling sites are restricted from obeying the rules of Curacao and from providing their service in any country.

Curacao gambling license is one of the most popular business licenses for operators. It is more affordable than other licenses such as the MGA and UKGC and allows the casino to offer a wide range of services. While there are some requirements to obtain, there is less bureaucracy involved. Note that operators do not have to deal directly with the Curacao government.

Today, a Curacao gambling license is still one of the quickest to obtain, as long as the operator meets the licensing requirements. In other countries, most regulators will require operators to complete lengthy and expensive procedures to be eligible for a license, and will give priority to local casinos.
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Since most casinos are licensed in Curacao, they must abide by the laws of Curacao. If they want to provide their services in any country, they must abide by the gambling laws or rules related to gambling in that country or they will be restricted there.

Activity licenses mean to users that the casino is subject to certain laws in which it has met several conditions, and through which it can be held accountable in case of any problems.

By the way, I am interested to know two things. First, whether other entities besides Caracao accept to grant licenses for online casinos. Second, what are the conditions for obtaining licenses from Caracao and why it seems so easy.

Curacao accepts licenses for online casinos and most casinos get the licenses from Curacao. And gambler trusts those gambling sites that have licenses from Curacao. Also, the sites that have taken licenses from gambling sites are restricted from obeying the rules of Curacao and from providing their service in any country.
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The main reason they (government) licence and regulate is because of tax and also in cases of money laundering. They are not doing so because of the interest of the players, I don't think there's any government licensing body in my country that is in control of whether the casino is actually being fair enough to player or cheating the players. This is a problem and I don't know if it's so in other developed country.

Licensed is simply just a compliance or merely for tax purposes of the casino to operate legally on different country. I doubt the government itself will moderate scam and other fraud unless it was reported to them which is a hassle thing to do as players that playing online casino.

Yea, I know but just as OP's opinion, I think it would have been better if the government set out an organization or body that will also censor the casino to detect any act of unfair behavior, they should not only seek transparency for their own benefits, at least they should also look out to protect gamblers interest because they are taking tax from those casino and currently they want to start taking tax from gamblers winning.
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I do not also agree that people gamble most on land based casinos. People gamble most on online casinos.

I do not also agree with the withdrawal. There are online casinos that withdrawal is very fast. Withdrawal on Livecasino.io and Stake.com are very fast.

I agree with your point here in both situations. The number of players going to land casinos has significantly reduced since the COVID lockdown started. Online casinos are available 24/7 at the player's leisure. Depending on the choice of crypto for withdrawal, it has become very fast, which is somewhat similar to fiat. I have used Stake.com for Bitcoin withdrawals the only issue I faced was a high transaction fee as they want the withdrawal to be instant.

The withdrawal fee is a matter that goes on in different casinos, rare are the ones who pay their fees for people who withdraw their money from such casinos. I remember there were some but I forgot the names and I agree with such choice in order to attract more people to play, you know when we deposit we pay high fees if we use Bitcoin and also to pay such fees when withdrawing which is like over 3 dollars with nowadays price of a Bitcoin at Stake is not a good option. When people are winning they expect the casino to pay their fees as they most likely during the long run sustain heavy losses and even when they win they have to pay such fee. As for transparency of local casinos they can be better but they can also be worse as they may happen to live in a corrupted government.
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Most of the crypto casino I know from the forum have Curacao license which doesn't mean they can't operate in other regions unless the government explicitly put restrictions. And having license is not really a protection against anything even the provable fairness, it lies in the hands of the casino itself who decides how they are going to operate their games which will attract users as long as they are operating fairly.

Since most casinos are licensed in Curacao, they must abide by the laws of Curacao. If they want to provide their services in any country, they must abide by the gambling laws or rules related to gambling in that country or they will be restricted there.

Activity licenses mean to users that the casino is subject to certain laws in which it has met several conditions, and through which it can be held accountable in case of any problems.

By the way, I am interested to know two things. First, whether other entities besides Caracao accept to grant licenses for online casinos. Second, what are the conditions for obtaining licenses from Caracao and why it seems so easy.
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