Topic: Transparent dices ? - page 2. (Read 561 times)

Quite an interesting topic and I think most people take for granted that the dice are fair. But I am wondering whether you can say with 100% certainty whether a dice is manipulated in some way even if they are transparent. In theory, I guess they could be produced in a way that they are still rigged despite being transparent. If some specific material is used that is heavier in one position of the dice but yet it is transparent, I think it would be impossible to tell if a dice is 100% provably fair.

You should have provided an article for us to check the veracity of that if it's true or not many of us do not know this, but if the casino is going to cheat they will find a way to do it even if they are using a transparent dice, but I did watch a movie I just forgot the title that they can control the dice and manipulate and spin it but if it's true that there's a probability of controlling the dice and it could happen if you're using a black and white dice then I will remember and ask if possible for transparent dice, it's a casino so I'm sure they have all kinds of dice, if there's no hidden agenda and all the players agreed to have a transparent dice then the operator will have to comply.

This seems more like an idea to calm down drunk angry gamblers who are losing with dice. As if they have decided that their bad luck is because of rigged dices, it's really hard to make them believe they are not.

Has there even been any recorded cases where casinos have used rigged dices? And why would they do that? Casinos have house edge on their side so that they don't have to. There are countless inspections about it too and getting caught would hurt them more then money they would get for that. And imagine how many people would need to use them and keep their mouths shut about that to have any effect. It's a nonsensical conspiracy. I am thinking more likely scenario would be that some group of gamblers used sleight of hand and tried to change the dice for their advantage. But changes would be that they would get caught and payed for their crime.

It won't matter to me but if I feel that I am cheated, I'll just step away and forget about what happened and will never be back there. This is one of the reasons why I am mostly sticking to online than of these physical casinos. You'll never know if you've been cheated or not as there's no way to verify results through hashes compared to online. But if you find fun with that then that's not a problem as it's always fun to try new casinos but it won't be long until you've figured out if it's worth it to stay or not. And I agree to windfury, if that casino is regulated and registered, they're likely won't do something you'd be unhappy with like with the transparency of dices or whatever material is preferred.

As long as the casinos are regulated, expect them to be fair. These dice are being calibrated the same as what authorities do on physical machines to ensure fairness and if the casino is following the proper guidelines. I doubt these casinos will mess up on their player if they are regulated and licensed.

With lots of dice players around, it's impossible that no one will encounter if there's a cheat on the used dice. That's what the casino wants to avoid. Therefore, they will keep on being fair and won't ruin the trust of their customers. It's hard to earn trust nowadays, especially in the gambling industry.

Honestly, I couldn't care less for whatever material they make the dices, as long as they are weighted before play and are not rigged, cause cheating takes the fun out of everything you heavily involve yourself into.

For me, it all lies in the overall trust rating of the casino you're playing with. I mean, a casino that's trusted by millions of players around their area and possibly the world's not gonna be so cheap as to cheat their players into a couple hundred bucks by giving them a loaded dice. After all, they already got the house edge to give them the upper hand against the players from the get-go. The only time you'd ever be worried about the legitimacy of the dice you're playing in my opinion is when you're playing with a shady casino. Those back alley ones that you'd find behind a dumpster with a burnt-out neon signage, and in that regard I'm gonna ask you the question of why the fuck are you trifling with casinos like that in the first place and then complaining about how rigged their systems are. That's like point a gun at your foot and then blaming the gun when you get a bullet stuck inside your foot.

Questions like these do not instill quality in my opinion, even though I get the intent to spark discussion. This is one of the reasons why gambling discussion's regarded by many vets in this forum as the dumpster fire board. We got people asking questions they already know the answers to for the sake of asking.

I started this thread because the idea behind the use of transparent in Brick and mortar casinos is to reassure gamblers the dices they play with are made of an homogenenous material. Because you all know that in other to rig dices, usually the riggers need to include materials with different densities within the body of the dice, so it can favour an specific number.
I thought most of people here would make a big deal of it and would say they would indeed consider the appearance of the dices and the materials of them, but it seems I was wrong and most people would not care about it.

I also agree we are not supposed to over-think whether a casino is cheating on us all times. Gambling is indeed supposed to be a positive experience and it would be difficult to enjoy anything about it if those constant thoughts of being screwed up by the house. That is another reason to stick to provably fair games in online Casinos, I guess, or even open source gambling games if they are available as well.

On the issue of regulation and licenses, they are useful, but I won't blindly trust on a certificate for a casino, specially if the casino itself is still small enough or new. Just my personal opinion or perception, though.

Maybe I'll try it for a little money. It's okay if they do it at the beginning of its launch because some people will find out about it. I will leave the casino even if I am cheated. I also won't gamble at that casino too often because I already have my favourite casino. Even though the casino does intend to cheat the people who visit its premises, it will not allow the casino to do it continuously because there are people who already know. It will warn people who frequently visit the casino to be more careful and they will not advise people to go to that casino. Someone who already understands the world of gambling will know whether a casino is fraudulent or honest, and if the casino is in our city, news of the fraud will spread quickly, and people will soon abandon the casino.

I mean, they already made it transparent after all, they can easily rig it with the same method they tried to get the dice itself. And they can rig it in many other ways as well since the source is themselves. Unless ofc it was supervised and provided by a supervising gambling board for that specific country, which I don't think even happens tbf but hey, the idea could be there to prevent tampering.

Anyway, I don't think I'd mind. I mean if it were ever revealed I'd probably be like "damn it" but that's about it. At the end of the day I pretty much agreed to play a game rigged in the first place for the house, adding a bit more certainly doesn't seem like that big of a deal. And thinking of "what if" situations at that point is just exhausting imo.

Because most gamblers, when they play dice games in the casino, don't think about that kind of thing anymore because they can only really gamble and win or just rely on luck. I'm the same thing in the casino here in crypto gambling; I never thought about what you're referring to.

It's just that what I'm used to in dice games here in crypto gambling is that when I lose, I double my next bet, but I only bet on a very small amount, and I also use cryptocurrency or altcoins to match and not stablecoins.

Using transparent dice or not doesn't make that my reference for playing, because if the casino intends to cheat, even if they use dice that are as clear as water, they will still be able to cheat. The thing that concerns me when I play at an offline casino is whether the casino has a license from a trusted authority or not. For example:

- UKGC
- MGA
- NGCB or
- Other trusted authorities.

So, my answer to your question is "Yes, I will play even if it doesn't use transparent dice, as long as the casino has a license from a reputable authority".

I this point, I don't think that anyone can rigged the dices, transparent or the old ones that we seen, the black and white. Technology is so much better now, that if the casino or even someone try to cheat by introducing their own dices, they will be caught right away.

So for me, doesn't matter, if I decided to play dices, I would do it without thinking that they could have been rigged or the designed is very different from what I used to. Everything still boils down to our luck, and who knows, maybe that day, playing at that brick and mortar casinos, will bring so much money in your end.

Anything is possible! Imagine having a team that works on that stuff and they have a nice bankroll for making their ideas real... but why would they do it? Risking reputation when in the long run they will win anyway sounds a bit stupid.

I think it's hard to prove that some casinos are cheating, but if you get a feeling that some games are not fair all you can do is to move away from that casino and find some other place. In the end, it's all about trust, we either trust the casino where we spend money & time or not.

True, who's gambler will play in a not-trusted casino, right? Of course, if you are a cautious gambler or person, you will search the establishment to see if it has a reputation for cheating their customers, but if you are just playing, then you're lost. because, in sad reality, no matter what establishment it is or casino, they have their way to control the money that they can lose when the customers are winning, not in the form of cheating in the sense that they will dry the customer's fund but to avoid customers getting too much win.

Worry if the casino is virtual because it's easier to rig the games in an online casino as they can be programmed, so playing in a physical casino or in a physical casino is more okay if you want to make sure that you avoid casinos that cheat their customers. If you will play online gambling, then you better do sports betting because your winnings and losses will depend on the result of a match.

But the casino already has the long-term edge over ALL their customers. Are you suggesting that they should employ cheating to increase their profit-margin? I believe that would be very stupid unless the "casino" is unregulated and run by frauds. A legitimate casino run by actual business people would never risk the business because they already know their edge. Plus taking the risk of getting caught, going to prison, and destroying one's reputation for short-term gain will never be worth the higher profit-margin.

Another viewpoint, the casino would be taking their customers' money much faster which could discourage them from coming back. Hahaha. The strategy should probably be, "Let them feel like winners sometimes".

In a casino, no one can cheat because the dice are clear. When the dice are clear, it seems like everything is fair, but it's not. I might not trust a casino if there aren't any clear coins there. Many things, like other customers' reviews, the casino's image, and how well it follows the rules, can make or break its reliability. To learn and think about these things, clear dice are needed. When I knew if I was safe playing games there.

i think that whether the dice are transparent or not, it's the same, because if the casino wants to cheat from the start, they can do it regardless of whether the dice are transparent or not, surely they have a way to increase their winnings.

therefore, always play at a casino that is directly supervised by the gaming commission so that your chances of being cheated can be reduced. because usually casinos that are regulated and supervised by the gaming commission provide games that are quite trustworthy, so players can gamble without worrying about being cheated.

Believe me, transparent dice or not, I will play my thing so long as it is a physical casino in which I see what I am doing and no one is covering my face for it. But when it is electronic, I do not trust anything dice, I know that it is such that could be better rigged by the house. Maybe I didn't read you correctly or you didn't differentiate them clearly for us to know, but one thing that I know is that no matter how suspicious I am, if I haven't tried for some time, I might not know the truth about it. They can rig it or not, even the transparent one, I do not trust anything 100%, they might find their way to make it to their advantage. It would even be better if some people were gambling people entered, I will make sure that I study it very well to know the possibility of them rigging it.

This will of course help me to make a quick judgement about the dice, but I would like to be more certain instead of being too quick to judge them. The person who invited me should be able to say much about the casino too as no one would be willing to gamble their dice if such has been suspected by their customers or the people in the neighbourhood.

Dice games may be very fun and many people like them, but when something suspicious happens and it is in the dice game then it is better to avoid it and choose another game, I sure there will be lots of games there.
Betting on games that we may not really like and have various suspicions about will only make us regret it and we as gamblers who are risking money must choose games that we can really rely on.

I also believe that it is still possible and very possible to make dadi more transparent but is it easy?
Most casinos will use more modern equipment developments and of course this will only give rise to bad thoughts from gamblers, they will think that the casino has way of manipulating the game.
I still find very transparent dice here, it is done manually and really doesn't use any tools, they still use traditional methods.
But I don't really like it because it can cost more money in short time.

Most of the physical casinos I played on uses high quality dice in their table games. They are mandated and regulated by a board that directly audits and inspects the machines and equipment they use for their games. If this isn't done then they will surely get sanctioned or worse, ordered to close because they are not compliant with the regulations that are put in place to make sure that they are not cheating.

Transparent dice seems a good idea though, but if it's made out of materials that can easily be controlled, e.g. metals, you still can't be too sure whether these dice are not an element of cheating or not.