Trendon Shavers-Philip Moustakis-United States Securities & Exchange Commission - page 2.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on October 29, 2012, 09:59:49 PM

Quote from: LoupGaroux on October 27, 2012, 10:42:39 AM

Consider that the PPT operators are not protected for they are in fact co-conspirators with Trendon in this matter. Anyone who operated a PPT was as guilty in collecting funds, and MAKING CRIMINAL MISREPRESENTATIONS, as Trendon was. They were the collection points for this scam. I'm certain the net cast in this investigation will include the lackeys in this criminal enterprise, especially any who happen to be US citizens, even if they are currently living outside the US.

And this is not snitching, unless you are a member of the criminal gang behind this.

Currently, I can not name a single PPT, but if I wanted to know for sure who there were, I do know how to search for them. I wouldn't mind if there was a place where all the know PPTs are listed for posterity.

~Bruno K~

Here is a start: http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/payb.tc

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Registrar
Key-Systems GmbH
Status
ok
Contact Email

Creation Date
06/02/2011
Updated Date
08/10/2012
Expiration Date
06/02/2013

Registrant
Ian Grice
86 Monash Rd
Brisbane, QLD
AU
Telephone: +61.414235463
Fax: +61.111111111
Email:

Billing Contact
[email protected] Billing Department
Im Oberen Werk 1
St. Ingbert, Saarland
DE
Telephone: +49.68949396870
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Email:

Administrative Contact
Ian Grice
86 Monash Rd
Brisbane, QLD
AU
Telephone: +61.414235463
Fax: +61.111111111
Email:

Technical Contact
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86 Monash Rd
Brisbane, QLD
AU
Telephone: +61.414235463
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Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.

Quote from: BCB on October 26, 2012, 06:29:36 PM

Maybe Phil will even sign up and answer your questions (but that may be a conflict of interest for him). Theymos, if he does please let him out of the newbee sections.

This made me lol Cheesy

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Quote from: LoupGaroux on October 27, 2012, 10:42:39 AM

Consider that the PPT operators are not protected for they are in fact co-conspirators with Trendon in this matter. Anyone who operated a PPT was as guilty in collecting funds, and MAKING CRIMINAL MISREPRESENTATIONS, as Trendon was. They were the collection points for this scam. I'm certain the net cast in this investigation will include the lackeys in this criminal enterprise, especially any who happen to be US citizens, even if they are currently living outside the US.

And this is not snitching, unless you are a member of the criminal gang behind this.

Currently, I can not name a single PPT, but if I wanted to know for sure who there were, I do know how to search for them. I wouldn't mind if there was a place where all the know PPTs are listed for posterity.

~Bruno K~

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BCJ

I've been hesitating to post about this because what you are stating is a very real concern from many of the member who are posting. Let me compose something and I'll post here.

EDIT:

DutchBrat, I will say that if you were an investor and you were defrauded the any information you give is perfectly valid. The only issue may be your nationality, and only the SEC can tell you how they can take and use information you provide.

Also this is a Securities investigation. What information, posting, prospectus or email with information about the investment did you RELY on to make your investment. This is the crux of the investigation.

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This has probably been discussed before:

I put money in a PPT (BitcoinMax), so not directly with pirate aka Trendon S.

Is the SEC only interested in talking to people that have directly invested with pirate or also people that have invested with PPT operators?

It seems to me the bulk of the investors have gone through ppt's (at least the bulk of the money). And I cant be sure my ppt operator actually transfered the btc to pirate or ran their own hyip, using the pirate name as some sort of 'seal of recommendation'

So any info I can give the sec is circumstancial at best....

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Quote from: Ente on October 29, 2012, 03:00:07 AM

... The orange color is, in fact, a huge conspiracy! ...

IT'S A PONZI!!!

...

sorry... force of habit...

-- Smoov

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ah, right, now I see! The orange color is, in fact, a huge conspiracy!
lol

I find it correlating very well for me. By now I see a lot less orange around, and have reduced my facepalming a lot accordingly.

Ente

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 28, 2012, 06:33:33 AM

Quote from: LoupGaroux on October 27, 2012, 08:22:49 PM

Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

This is a good point. I wonder if it were possible to have users that ignore someone and then get banned have their ignore count the other way, retroactively. You and me would be glowing anti-orange in short order.

or at least not count the ignores of banned people against you...

-- Smoov

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I always wondered why the color... now I know.

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Quote from: LoupGaroux on October 27, 2012, 08:22:49 PM

Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

This is a good point. I wonder if it were possible to have users that ignore someone and then get banned have their ignore count the other way, retroactively. You and me would be glowing anti-orange in short order.

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Quote from: LoupGaroux on October 27, 2012, 08:22:49 PM

Apology accepted. Like the little boy who proclaimed the Emperor as walking down the street naked, some people just hate to see the truth. So I get ignored a lot. Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

+10

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Apology accepted. Like the little boy who proclaimed the Emperor as walking down the street naked, some people just hate to see the truth. So I get ignored a lot. Unfortunately for my dramatic shade of orange, a lot of them then get banned and I am stuck with the color.

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If it is factual then I apologize. Your ignore button is just very very orange.

Thanks.

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Quote from: BCB on October 27, 2012, 10:51:40 AM

LoupGaroux

Unless you are a tax/securities attorney or specialist, please do not troll this thread.
We don't need anymore FUD then is already spread else where on these boards.

Why would you want to limit the discussion to "tax/securities attorneys or specialists" when the conversation might gain something with input from someone who has already been interviewed several times over the past couple of months? It's not FUD if it is factual, and I can categorically state that at least two PPT's are a definite focus of this investigation beyond Trendon.

I can also confirm that this investigation is willing to use subpoena powers to compel "conversations" as required.

That's only causes fear if you are a PPT and you sent ANYTHING through to pirate, in which case you might want to be looking to reimburse real fast.

ErebusBat

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Very interesting, I will be watching this.

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Request for info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120880.new#new

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LoupGaroux

Unless you are a tax/securities attorney or specialist, please do not troll this thread.
We don't need anymore FUD then is already spread else where on these boards.

BCB

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on October 27, 2012, 10:40:43 AM

Quote from: Ente on October 27, 2012, 05:47:39 AM

- Anonymity: Well.. Some people will prefer to not have their name tied to involvements with Bitcoin. What do you people think is the probability that the SEC will publish, forward, leak that info to, lets say, the IRS (thats the guys with the taxes, right?)

This statement bothered me somewhat... Why not be involved with bitcoin? is bitcoin a bad thing?

The only reason someone would not want to be associated with bitcoin is if they were using it for illegal purposes.

I had a fairly significant amount of bitcoins in btcst. I do not hide the fact that i use, mine, spend bitcoins. I claim all mining profits on my taxes. Anyone who is above board will be OK being associated with btc.

jjiimm

Thanks for this. This is very true. I too use, buy and sell with bitcoin. I keep record of fiat that come out of my bank and is converted to BTC and declare any profit or loss on this activity. Only bitcoiners who CONSPIRED with BCTST to defraud investors are liable. However not declaring a profit or loss from any business could be a tax liability. But if you were a NET loser in BCTST is a write off and you have nothing to worry about.

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Quote from: LoupGaroux on October 27, 2012, 10:42:39 AM

Consider that the PPT operators are not protected for they are in fact co-conspirators with Trendon in this matter. Anyone who operated a PPT was as guilty in collecting funds, and MAKING CRIMINAL MISREPRESENTATIONS, as Trendon was. They were the collection points for this scam. I'm certain the net cast in this investigation will include the lackeys in this criminal enterprise, especially any who happen to be US citizens, even if they are currently living outside the US.

And this is not snitching, unless you are a member of the criminal gang behind this.

I do not think all PPTs will have a problem. Most of them did not collect any new funds.

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Consider that the PPT operators are not protected for they are in fact co-conspirators with Trendon in this matter. Anyone who operated a PPT was as guilty in collecting funds, and MAKING CRIMINAL MISREPRESENTATIONS, as Trendon was. They were the collection points for this scam. I'm certain the net cast in this investigation will include the lackeys in this criminal enterprise, especially any who happen to be US citizens, even if they are currently living outside the US.

And this is not snitching, unless you are a member of the criminal gang behind this.

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