Trezor or Ledger? And how to get my forks Bitcoin Cash / Gold / SV??

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Quote from: bob123 on June 21, 2020, 11:35:22 AM

........... But "software" vs "script" doesn't matter at all.

Nope, those are conceptually different things. When you import the private key into software wallet it stays there forever. There is no way to get it away. But if you use the private key with the coinb.in script it leaves there as long as the script remains in RAM. The priv key would vanish (with a very , very short delay) ... as soon as the power is off. Could it be you don't know the difference?

UnDerDoG81

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Thanks a lot everybody!

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Quote from: bob123 on June 20, 2020, 11:54:42 AM

Whether you are actually "import" it into a "software" or enter it into a script doesn't really make a difference.

Difference is in approach. It’s one thing to import a key into software that resides on computer designated for routine day-to-day work and quite another matter to do it with the script (btw, which is easy to check) living on air-gapped device. I think you can understand which one of two is the safest way.

You need to keep the context in mind.
We were never speaking about air-gapped vs online.

HusnaQA simply said:

Quote from: Husna QA on May 13, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

Paper Wallet is only a printout that contains a Bitcoin address or public key that allows transferring coins to the wallet, and a private key that gives access to send funds. This Private Key is imported into other software for sending funds.

That statement itself is true.
Whether you import it into a "software" or use a "script", doesn't matter at all.

What matter is whether you are entering your private key into an online device or an air-gapped one. But that was never a point from HusnaQA.

If we compare air-gapped devices, it doesn't matter whether you use a "software" or a "script". Same for online devices.

Offline is better than online. But "software" vs "script" doesn't matter at all.

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Farewell, Leo. You will be missed!

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 20, 2020, 12:56:34 PM

Guys, any tipps where I can trade my bsv to bitcoin without much loss (fee), safe and easily? İn the coinomi app it's possible but the fees are pretty high like 5% if I calculated correctly.

If you are not sure where a certain coin is trading, you can always look it up on CoinMarketCap for example.

The BSV/BTC trading pair shows the following exchanges on the top.

OKEx - https://www.okex.com/market?product=bsv_btc
CoinEx - https://www.coinex.com/exchange?currency=btc&dest=bsv&tab=limit
HitBTC - https://hitbtc.com/BSV-to-BTC
BitForex - https://www.bitforex.com/en/spot/bsv_btc
CoinBene - https://www.coinbene.com/exchange/en_US/BSVBTC

Of course, do you own research and use an exchange you are comfortable with. All the links were taken from CMC.
I am not a fan of HitBTC, and probably many users will agree that they are sketchy.

There is a huge range of exchanges here: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-sv/markets

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 20, 2020, 12:56:34 PM

Guys, any tipps where I can trade my bsv to bitcoin without much loss (fee), safe and easily? İn the coinomi app it's possible but the fees are pretty high like 5% if I calculated correctly.

Any reputable exchange.
Don't use instant exchanges.

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Guys, any tipps where I can trade my bsv to bitcoin without much loss (fee), safe and easily? İn the coinomi app it's possible but the fees are pretty high like 5% if I calculated correctly.

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Quote from: Husna QA on May 13, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

Paper Wallet is only a printout that contains a Bitcoin address or public key that allows transferring coins to the wallet, and a private key that gives access to send funds. This Private Key is imported into other software for sending funds.

To send bitcoins one don't even have to import private key stored on the piece of paper "into other software" wallet. Everything can be done with a script of coinb.in set up (for safety) on air-gapped computer, i.e. one can create and sign the raw transaction with coinb.in's script on such device and then push it via any online service.

You still need to enter the private key.
Whether you are actually "import" it into a "software" or enter it into a script doesn't really make a difference.

The result is the same. The private key has to be inserted into some kind of software to actually sign a transaction.

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Quote from: Rath_ on June 19, 2020, 06:37:57 PM

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 06:23:19 PM

Awesome, thank you again! I think it worked. I sent 0.1 BCH to Bitstamp and my BSV stood the same amount 0.2

Keep in mind that replays do not have to happen instantly after the original transfer. Don't worry about it. You are safe since you have followed the instructions.

It seems it worked. Moved my Bcash to Ledger and the BSV to a new wallet and own equal amounts of both now still after 12+ hours.

Now the big question is, keep BCH, BSV and Bgold or switch them all to Bitcoin. I guess all three of them wont lose much more because they lost a lot already. So I think it does not matter if I keep them or switch them to Bitcoin. Because all alts follow Bitcoin.

Now that everything is safe, I can try to claim the little pieces as well like Bitcoin Diamon, Super Bitcoin, Lightning Bitcoin etc. Its just a few bucks but anyway...

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 06:23:19 PM

Awesome, thank you again! I think it worked. I sent 0.1 BCH to Bitstamp and my BSV stood the same amount 0.2

Keep in mind that replays do not have to happen instantly after the original transfer. Don't worry about it. You are safe since you have followed the instructions.

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Quote from: Rath_ on June 19, 2020, 05:42:08 PM

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 05:19:07 PM

I now sent BTC to Bitstamp. I will buy BCH with that. Then I sent them as described to my BCH wallet to split BCH and BSV. Now to be sure, can I sent only 0.01 BCH to the ledger BCH wallet to see if the split has worked? If not, then I will only lose 0.01 BSV right?

Yes, you can send as little as 0.01 BCH. There is no reason why it wouldn't work, but in the worst case scenario, 0.01 BSV will be sent to the same address on the SV chain. If that happens, you will be able to use your Ledger with the Electrum SV to access those coins.

Awesome, thank you again! I think it worked. I sent 0.1 BCH to Bitstamp and my BSV stood the same amount 0.2

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 05:19:07 PM

I now sent BTC to Bitstamp. I will buy BCH with that. Then I sent them as described to my BCH wallet to split BCH and BSV. Now to be sure, can I sent only 0.01 BCH to the ledger BCH wallet to see if the split has worked? If not, then I will only lose 0.01 BSV right?

Yes, you can send as little as 0.01 BCH. There is no reason why it wouldn't work, but in the worst case scenario, 0.01 BSV will be sent to the same address on the SV chain. If that happens, you will be able to use your Ledger with the Electrum SV to access those coins.

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Sorry, now my last question I hope.

I now sent BTC to Bitstamp. I will buy BCH with that. Then I sent them as described to my BCH wallet to split BCH and BSV. Now to be sure, can I sent only 0.01 BCH to the ledger BCH wallet to see if the split has worked? If not, then I will only lose 0.01 BSV right?

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Awesome, thanks mate! You are a great help!

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 05:03:49 PM

I remember that from a paper wallet you had to sent all the coins to an adress because you expose your private key right?

Yes, that's what most people recommend to do. Paper wallets are usually used by people who intend not to spend their coins very often.

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 05:03:49 PM

I guess I can sent 0.01 BTC to Bitstamp from my Ledger and that is no problem right? Or do I have to move all my BTC to a new adress after sending a small amount?

Yes, there shouldn't be any problems. Hardware wallets are designed not to expose private keys, so you will be fine with the same BTC address and wallet. You could also try to ask someone to send you very little BCH, but that would expose your addresses to that person.

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Thanks! Just tried with Bitstamp, their "buy with Credit Card" function does not work and the minimum amount is $50. I am really a noob with cryptos. I remember that from a paper wallet you had to sent all the coins to an adress because you expose your private key right? I guess I can sent 0.01 BTC to Bitstamp from my Ledger and that is no problem right? Or do I have to move all my BTC to a new adress after sending a small amount?

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on June 19, 2020, 04:39:21 PM

I mean I know I can buy some on an exchange. But are these already splitted? I guess BCH for a dollar is already enough?

Yes, they will be already split. Any amount of BCH above the dust limit will be enough.

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Hi,

now that coinomni fixed the sweep error on iOS, I can finally claim the forks. I am not sure about splitting BCH and BSV. Where or how can I receive already splitted BCH? I mean I know I can buy some on an exchange. But are these already splitted?

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Thanks guys. Now the train has left. Had a feeling we will not make the 10k and wanted to sell. Now everything can happen. Up or down. Yet I think it will drop soon if we dont get volume.

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 21, 2020, 03:38:26 PM

Now I can not even sweep my bitcoin paper wallets as well. I get the same error. The support says its an iOS issue and they want to fix it. That sucked because I wanted to trade. Now we dropped almost 1k already. They say I should use the desktop version on Mac. But I dont want to type in my 24 words on the keyboard. Have apps installed that track every word I type in (Better Touch Tool, TypeIt4Me etc.).

another way, you to have running windows on your mac using virtual box. https://osxdaily.com/2015/03/25/install-run-windows-10-mac-virtualbox-os-x/

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 21, 2020, 03:38:26 PM

They say I should use the desktop version on Mac. But I dont want to type in my 24 words on the keyboard. Have apps installed that track every word I type in (Better Touch Tool, TypeIt4Me etc.).

If you don't want to type your mnemonic code into your PC, you could just install another mobile wallet (e.g. electrum, samourai or mycelium) and restore your wallet with these.
This obviously will only work for your BTC.

Another option would be to create a bootable linux live distro and use your mnemonic code to create a wallet in that live distro.
Then just send your coins to an exchange or wherever you want them to send to.
Since you are not creating a new wallet, but using your mnemonic code, there is nothing you need to save. Just boot it, import your mnemonic code, make your transaction and shut down your pc.

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