TRON is bad coin, here is why - page 11.

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Quote from: Abiky on August 03, 2023, 06:55:03 AM

I admit TRON is a failure, but that doesn't mean it's a scam. All that Justin Sun did was shill the project across social networks for his own benefit. His efforts were in vain because TRX never reached $1. It's always been cheap. As far as tech goes, the TRON blockchain was built based on both Ethereum and EOS' design. It uses DPoS as its consensus algorithm alongside a virtual machine which resembles Ethereum's EVM (called the TVM).

A long time ago, Justin Sun published the TRON whitepaper which was an exact copy of ETH's whitepaper. Vitalik Buterin accused Justin Sun of "plagarism". It's likely TRON is a direct copy of Ethereum with a few minor tweaks. While there are stablecoins built on top of the TRON blockchain, there isn't a variety of dApps to choose from. Competitors are faring better in this regard. Who knows how long TRON will last? Just my thoughts Grin

Undoubtedly, TRON as an investment has not achieved any significant success over the past 7 years, but in terms of adopting and utilization, TRON and its TRC20 network is much more useful and reliable than most altcoins, even among the older ones. TRON does not grow in value well, but almost all crypto services work with it. It is one of the few coins on the crypto market whose appeal is not in speculation, but in utility.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on August 15, 2023, 03:44:30 AM

You still recommend TRON, even though it started out as a "copycat"? In the world of blockchain, which changes quickly, its important to be creative. Yes, TRON could be used to move stablecoins, but does that make it a top-tier cryptocurrency? Definitely not. Do you think its enough to be the cheapest choice to be the best? Think again

No fees when you use TRON Power? Brilliant. But a real winner in blockchain technology has to be more than just "cheaper" or "free." If you think that the community will get TRX to the top, you might need to wake up. It needs strong infrastructure, the best security possible, and ongoing improvements.

Even though your ideas for TRX (less coins in circulation, ZK-Proofs, and L2-scaling solutions) are good, they are also basic requirements for any blockchain that wants to compete with Ethereum. And dont even talk about decentralization. It's not just a feature, it's the FOUNDATION of any credible blockchain

TRON may be a "copycat", but that doesn't mean you can't take advantage of it whenever you see fit. Compared to other chains, fees are cheaper and confirmation times are faster. The inexpensiveness of the TRX cryptocurrency, makes it extremely-convenient for "De-Fi", gambling, and even stablecoin transfers.

Even though this is the case, we cannot ignore the fact that the TRON ecosystem is quite smaller compared to its rivals. There's a plethora of dApps, tokens, and services available elsewhere. As the real world says, "you get what you pay for". Who knows what the future of the TRON blockchain will be? Just my thoughts Grin

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I thinks it's dependent on what reasons are best related to what you do with a tech. Basically, every project on the blockchain space is a tech solution, which means it solves a particular problem and this problem might not cut across your interest but it doesn't invalidate the solution it offers. Tron isn't as bad as thought.

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Quote from: Abiky on August 11, 2023, 09:00:44 AM

Quote from: trendcoin on August 04, 2023, 05:05:50 PM

I also think Tron is a bad coin, but your arguments are not strong enough and fall into the logic error called begging the question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question). Justin is a copy and paste man. He's copying and pasting everything that's done on Ethereum and porting it to Tron, but he hasn't succeeded in anything except gambling dapps. I never hold Tron either, but sometimes I prefer Tron when transferring money between exchanges because its transfer fee is cheaper. I basically agree with you but I don't see this issue from the same perspective as you do.

Exactly. But just because Justin Sun is a "copycat", doesn't mean the project itself is garbage. TRON is still useful, even though it's not as innovative as its competitors. The ability to use it for stablecoin transfers at a fraction of the cost, makes it a winner in my book. Transactions are usually free if you hold TRON Power in your wallet. If the community takes full control of the project, I can see TRX rising all the way towards the top ranks in market cap.

All TRX needs is a lower supply, ZK-Proofs, and L2 scaling solutions to become a huge ETH contender. The project is open source, so either the original TRON blockchain prevails or a new one (fork) will take its place. As long as decentralization is put first, nothing else matters. Just my opinion

You still recommend TRON, even though it started out as a "copycat"? In the world of blockchain, which changes quickly, its important to be creative. Yes, TRON could be used to move stablecoins, but does that make it a top-tier cryptocurrency? Definitely not. Do you think its enough to be the cheapest choice to be the best? Think again

No fees when you use TRON Power? Brilliant. But a real winner in blockchain technology has to be more than just "cheaper" or "free." If you think that the community will get TRX to the top, you might need to wake up. It needs strong infrastructure, the best security possible, and ongoing improvements.

Even though your ideas for TRX (less coins in circulation, ZK-Proofs, and L2-scaling solutions) are good, they are also basic requirements for any blockchain that wants to compete with Ethereum. And dont even talk about decentralization. It's not just a feature, it's the FOUNDATION of any credible blockchain

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 13, 2023, 12:01:15 PM

In my opinion, both from vs Ethereum are almost the same and there is no lesser evil between the two networks since both are centralized and are still heading towards more centralization since ETH recently moved from Proof of Work to Proof of stake which give liquidity providers the control of which transaction get confirmed on the network.

This is a bad omen to Ethereum users since the whale with the highest liquidity controls the network transactions, so if you want to compare two assets you shouldn't put up assets that are in the same category such as Ethereum vs Trons in this situation.

That is a fact. But even if both coins are centralized, one proves to be better than the other in terms of mainstream acceptance and reliability. Ethereum is a better option than TRON because of its security/reliability and largest ecosystem of dApps, tokens, and services alike. It may have high gas fees, but that doesn't stop people from using it. With off-chain scaling solutions (L2), ETH can have ultra-low fees and blazing-fast speeds just like TRX.

What's keeping TRON alive is the USDT stablecoin. There's a lot of network activity regarding stablecoin transactions. If it wasn't because of that, TRX would've been dead by now. Justin Sun still dominates the TRON chain with his SRs (validators), so he has nothing to lose. If the community is keen on decentralization, then we'll be seeing a TRON-based fork emerge soon. Who knows what the fate of TRX will be? Just my thoughts Grin

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Quote from: riantolie on July 30, 2023, 03:39:05 AM

Well, it's still cheaper than ETH. Not as much as it used to, but still. I mean, there are a lot of other coins that didn't do something new, at least TRON works fine.

In my opinion, both from vs Ethereum are almost the same and there is no lesser evil between the two networks since both are centralized and are still heading towards more centralization since ETH recently moved from Proof of Work to Proof of stake which give liquidity providers the control of which transaction get confirmed on the network.

This is a bad omen to Ethereum users since the whale with the highest liquidity controls the network transactions, so if you want to compare two assets you shouldn't put up assets that are in the same category such as Ethereum vs Trons in this situation.

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Quote from: Mr_Peter Ben on July 29, 2023, 10:34:21 PM

Everyone should know, how fraudulent TRON really is.
Avoid bad coin like TRON.

TRON coin was launched in 2017, meaning it has been on the crypto market for more or less 6 years, as far as I know TRON had the highest price at that time $0.3 and the lowest $0.001 and the current price is $0.07 TRON has no Max supply with total supply of 89,484,109,834 TRX and coins that89,484,074,813 TRX in circulation, you can see all of that here: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tron/, Of course I'm not talking about what happened like you said here, all thoughts are with ourselves in the assessment of the TRON coin.

Bottom line: regardless of whether TRON coins are bad or good, fraudsters or not, one thing for sure is that I have never bought and traded tron coins, but there are things I need to consider for tron, namely; the tron network, for me is bad from the development of coins on the market, good from a network perspective, making transactions in usdt of course I prefer to use the tron network, it's easy and fast, for that TRON in my assessment is bad in terms of coin development on the market, but good in terms of network/transactions, that's my understanding of TRON.

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they must release the sources for nodes and make it simple. how supposed we put wallet in unknown server . hope they know what mean decentralize it. they need think who has own PC not regular app for phone releases. like bitcoin, doge, ltc where have own wallet every PC and gatget.

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Quote from: trendcoin on August 04, 2023, 05:05:50 PM

I also think Tron is a bad coin, but your arguments are not strong enough and fall into the logic error called begging the question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question). Justin is a copy and paste man. He's copying and pasting everything that's done on Ethereum and porting it to Tron, but he hasn't succeeded in anything except gambling dapps. I never hold Tron either, but sometimes I prefer Tron when transferring money between exchanges because its transfer fee is cheaper. I basically agree with you but I don't see this issue from the same perspective as you do.

Exactly. But just because Justin Sun is a "copycat", doesn't mean the project itself is garbage. TRON is still useful, even though it's not as innovative as its competitors. The ability to use it for stablecoin transfers at a fraction of the cost, makes it a winner in my book. Transactions are usually free if you hold TRON Power in your wallet. If the community takes full control of the project, I can see TRX rising all the way towards the top ranks in market cap.

All TRX needs is a lower supply, ZK-Proofs, and L2 scaling solutions to become a huge ETH contender. The project is open source, so either the original TRON blockchain prevails or a new one (fork) will take its place. As long as decentralization is put first, nothing else matters. Just my opinion

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Quote from: bitgolden on August 06, 2023, 02:08:03 PM

Quote from: zasad@ on August 03, 2023, 07:05:56 AM

Justin Sun copied the idea from Vitalik Buterin, but his ecosystem allows you to make transfers without commission if you have a certain number of coins staked. Many do not know, but Bandwidth and Energy can be delegated to another user for free transactions, but there is no such thing in Ethereum, so there are a lot of stablecoin transactions in the Tron ecosystem.

The idea is crypto coin, doesn't really seem to be different than most of the others, it just looks like it could be possible. I believe that we could make it work one way or another. I understand that it could make it harder to be different and that is why Justin Sun and overall Tron managed to do one thing that would matter and that is transaction fee being nearly free. That is the difference it put in the mix and they should be liked for it.

I do not have any neither, but I always think of it as a good project, I do not buy it because there is no attraction to it, and if you are not attractive to the investor, then the price will not go up. I hope that it gets to a point where it can go up a bit more than where it is now.

Yes, most of us don't see TRON as one of the promising and profitable projects but we never say it was a useless project. Might accept that only a few people had put their money into this project but considering its existence in the market for many years, we could think that it is better than these meme coins and other altcoins especially if we talk about transaction fees. I believe this project RON become sustainable because of its ecosystem but can't force people to look at its profit potential as it never looks like that.

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Quote from: zasad@ on August 03, 2023, 07:05:56 AM

Justin Sun copied the idea from Vitalik Buterin, but his ecosystem allows you to make transfers without commission if you have a certain number of coins staked. Many do not know, but Bandwidth and Energy can be delegated to another user for free transactions, but there is no such thing in Ethereum, so there are a lot of stablecoin transactions in the Tron ecosystem.

The idea is crypto coin, doesn't really seem to be different than most of the others, it just looks like it could be possible. I believe that we could make it work one way or another. I understand that it could make it harder to be different and that is why Justin Sun and overall Tron managed to do one thing that would matter and that is transaction fee being nearly free. That is the difference it put in the mix and they should be liked for it.

I do not have any neither, but I always think of it as a good project, I do not buy it because there is no attraction to it, and if you are not attractive to the investor, then the price will not go up. I hope that it gets to a point where it can go up a bit more than where it is now.

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Quote from: Mr_Peter Ben on July 29, 2023, 10:34:21 PM

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I also think Tron is a bad coin, but your arguments are not strong enough and fall into the logic error called begging the question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question). Justin is a copy and paste man. He's copying and pasting everything that's done on Ethereum and porting it to Tron, but he hasn't succeeded in anything except gambling dapps. I never hold Tron either, but sometimes I prefer Tron when transferring money between exchanges because its transfer fee is cheaper. I basically agree with you but I don't see this issue from the same perspective as you do.

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Quote from: Mr_Peter Ben on July 29, 2023, 10:34:21 PM

Maybe you know already: we have good coin and we have bad coin. While Bitcoin is very good coin, TRON is bad coin and here is why:

Are you comparing BTC and TRX?
BTC is surely the best coin, the reason is clear. But claiming TRX is bad coin, you seems no clear reasons. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Mr_Peter Ben on July 29, 2023, 10:34:21 PM

- TRON didn't achieve any additional technological advance compared to existing coin
- TRON is only launched because Justin Sun hates Vitalik Buterin and Ethereum
- Justin Sun failed to compete against Ethereum. Ethereum is much better, has much better technology and better developers
- Justin Sun just SHILLS his shitcoin TRON instead of implementing a better technology

- You are blind if you didn't see any progress on Tron.
- Where do you got this? I even never heard about this issue. Roll Eyes

- Once again, you compare it with the top coin. ETH is surely better.
- Shills? Huh

I think he promotes TRX. It makes sense if he promotes his coin. He is the founder. lol

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Don't think Tron is a bad coin at all,won't agree it with I have hold it for my than 2 years and have made good profits from it.Most of my funds transfer are in Trx cause of it's faster transaction and very low fees.Tron network is very convenient to use don't know why it is bad at all.

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In this case I can't agree of this because Tron is great coin and everyone use this and alot of people use this to withdraw there fund without any problem its a very great and fast chain if you have face any issues so kindly say clearly..

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You're comparing Tron to Ethereum and saying Tron is a bad coin, but you need to know if Ethereum is bad token too.

Ethereum fee is high and currently no development to launch ETH 2.0 which has been rumored since long time ago.
Ethereum was launched because Vitalik Buterin want to get rich by holding most of premined token.
Ethereum failed to compete against Bitcoin.
Vitalik Buterin shill his token and his centralized network to make other project use their network.

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Quote from: zasad@ on August 03, 2023, 07:05:56 AM

Justin Sun copied the idea from Vitalik Buterin, but his ecosystem allows you to make transfers without commission if you have a certain number of coins staked. Many do not know, but Bandwidth and Energy can be delegated to another user for free transactions, but there is no such thing in Ethereum, so there are a lot of stablecoin transactions in the Tron ecosystem.

I guess that's TRON main selling point. Blazing-fast payments at virtually no cost. It's this reason why some stablecoins prefer the TRON blockchain. I think it's the only thing we can use it for. To make stablecoins payments without breaking the bank. But ETH and its variants are still a better choice when it comes to "De-Fi" and NFTs.

If TRON doesn't innovate, it will slowly lose market value until it fades away into oblivion. It might become a "meme" coin like Dogecoin and Shiba Inu. Justin Sun already left the project, so the future of TRON seems dark to me. Who knows how long will it last? Just my thoughts Grin

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seriously dude, why do you compare Bitcoin and Tron? That is the dumbest comparing I ever saw. It's like comparing the Maruti car and BMW. Grin

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I used to use tron and found that integrating USDT on TRON via the TRC20 protocol provides flexibility and convenience for users. It offers lower transaction fees and faster transaction processing compared to other protocols. Each blockchain and cryptocurrency project has its own advantages and disadvantages, and the degree of security or trustlessness can vary. But in reality, it can be seen that the success of TRON and the low withdrawal fees of USDT are well known and many people still use this protocol for transactions today.

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Quote from: Mr_Peter Ben on July 29, 2023, 10:34:21 PM

Maybe you know already: we have good coin and we have bad coin. While Bitcoin is very good coin, TRON is bad coin and here is why:

- TRON didn't achieve any additional technological advance compared to existing coin
- TRON is only launched because Justin Sun hates Vitalik Buterin and Ethereum
- Justin Sun failed to compete against Ethereum. Ethereum is much better, has much better technology and better developers
- Justin Sun just SHILLS his shitcoin TRON instead of implementing a better technology

Everyone should know, how fraudulent TRON really is.
Avoid bad coin like TRON.

Justin Sun copied the idea from Vitalik Buterin, but his ecosystem allows you to make transfers without commission if you have a certain number of coins staked. Many do not know, but Bandwidth and Energy can be delegated to another user for free transactions, but there is no such thing in Ethereum, so there are a lot of stablecoin transactions in the Tron ecosystem.

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