Topic: TRULY YOURS IS GUILTY HAVING AN ALT ACCOUNTS! (Read 475 times)

To summarize my last reply; Just don't do it. It's not worth it as you are potentially aiding scammers and signature campaign abuse and as you can see people are already sick and tired of the signature campaign abuse which is going on.

Heed SaShiRaJaVu advise too. Without using a escrow your likely to get scammed yourself, and no escrow these days are going to help the sale of accounts.

Why do you need to think about these activities as selling of accounts is not a good way to approach and if you are planning to learn from it so be it as you might attract some scammers and you will end up loosing your money and there was a breach in the system which made the attacker monitor things further.

Is it allowed by forum policy? Yes. You won't get banned for selling/buying forum accounts. Although, that being said you will receive red trust from DefaultTrust and other members for doing it just as you've found out here.

Forum accounts were sold a few years ago and it wasn't too much of a big deal then. People did scam with them sometimes, but others just used the accounts to avoid ranking up issues which I believe theymos stated at some point he wasn't against the idea of this happening.

Although, nowadays it's a much bigger problem. Account sales are almost always used for either scamming, signature campaign abuse, or they have been hacked from the database leak a few years back. So if you are asking whether you can get banned for trading in accounts then the answer is no. But, this doesn't mean you should trade in accounts as it's highly frowned upon by the community and a select few actively look from sold accounts. In fact there's now a password/email change log that I would bet that a few users are downloading and watching out for suspicious activity on accounts.

I can ask you something, it is allowed that a user sells bitcointalk account yes or no, and because they reason, because I would like to work on that topic reporting

Signatures on all of your alt accounts? Okay, so you were spamming because of that then. People see spamming as an annoyance normally, but if you have a signature attached to each one of your alt accounts then it becomes a little more scummy as pointed out by actmyname.

Yeah, at least you are self aware. I may have been a supporter before the merit system was introduced, but we do have better alternatives now. Besides, the trust system isn't moderated and doesn't have any strict rules it's up to you what you leave feedback for.

If the red tag isn't gonna stop you - why are you crying?

You got what you deserved, no one here is personal in this case. To make the forum effective, maintain it's quality and dignity one will take such steps to clean it from redundancy. Once you become a spammer no doubt you can go for a scam as well.
If you have any regret for what you have done, just keep struggling for good content and prove your productivity on the forum but it is gonna take time.

You decided to change only after you were caught, that's what you're saying. Doesn't seem like very trustworthy behavior, bud. It's easy to change after you've been exposed but if you really meant well for the forum you wouldn't have spammed in the first place.

Duh.

If theymos will,i would gladly accept the faith that i have,account farmers who does use it for selling or multiple signatures should be removed (i didnt joined multiple signatures),as far as i am concern the main issue is spam and i can change the shit spams that i have done,in the future if i have still a chance i wont do it anymore but aint going to happen because pharmacist wont consider it.

Account sellers also aren't outright scamming people but the behavior is scummy. I wouldn't trust an account seller. Likewise, I wouldn't trust an account farmer. And as evidenced by the feedback, The Pharmacist thinks the same. I also do tag people for copy-pasting, which is against the rules: it's a perm ban.

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Maybe you should be permanently banned for spamming across all your accounts. Would you like that instead?

Not a good reason to put redtrust with the alts,do you think people who received red marks from pharmacist will stop? Spams should be a 7day ban or anythigng else,but to tag my accounts with reds without trying to scam people? that is purely BS.

You admitted to spam. Using multiple accounts in bounties/campaigns to spam and earn money off of it is not something that seems trustworthy. Given that and the fact that trust is subjective, I don't think The Pharmacist should have to remove the red trust.

Unless for some reason everyone wants to see more spam on the forum.

We have, but we're not using them to spam and earn money. if The Pharmacist hadn't noticed your accounts, you would have kept posting with them with spammy comments right now.

I do have signatures,when i am tagged yesterday.I did removed the signatures as this person gave red trust to my alt accoutns,i dont want to be removed from the bounties forcely,i have do give it up.I am not an account seller,not a multiple signature abuser, which makes it unacceptable. He said that he was irrirated with the posts,im sure most of the people here has their own alt accounts.

It's not really kissing the his arse though. You should be looking to improve your post quality especially when you were aware that you were spamming. Multiple accounts are fine. Like I said that isn't the issue here it's that you were spamming. Should The Pharmacist leave negatives for people who spam? I'm conflicted in that, but it doesn't matter. Everyone uses their own diligence when leaving feedback. If people agree with the majority of his trust then they'll likely keep him in their trust lists. I would rather report users like you and let the staff decide what to do as this isn't what the trust system was designed for, but that doesn't mean he's out of his rights to leave you that feedback.

May I ask if you were aware you were spamming then why were you doing it? What's to gain? You don't rank up by posting nonsense anymore.

I suspect you are going to do just that, yes, but that isn't why I left you all that feedback.  I left it because of this.  

It did immediately strike me that you might have been registering usernames with ones that might be popular later on, and those like "crypto____" would likely be more desired than some others.  It appeared to me that you were forming a portfolio of sorts, of bitcointalk accounts.

You can continue to try to get me off of DT, and I wish you well.  Wouldn't be the first time, as you know.  I would accept that graciously--probably more so than I did the first time.  But while I'm on it I plan on trying to help clean up the forum the best I can.  I'm not going to continue to tag individual shitposters, but people who have confirmed (or strongly suspected) alt accounts who are spamming nonsense in order to profit at bitcointalk's expense?  Yeah, I don't feel badly about tagging them.  They shouldn't be trusted.  Especially not when they do what you did, which was to use multiple accounts to say essentially the same thing in the same thread.  That's toxic.

On a related note, look at this thread.  This right here shows how bad this problem is.  I realize "bounty" could mean social media ones, but my guess is that signature campaigns are lumped into the answers, which are disheartening.  These people will spam anything in order to get paid.  Let 'em do it on Facebook and Twitter and leave bitcointalk alone.

I'm not making it a habit.  His posts and some others I found yesterday were particularly egregious.

Spammers and scammers always feel they're entitled to dictate the consequences after they're caught.

Absolute true words - sadly nearly every meaningful conversation is ruined by these kind of posts. The big problem in the middle is that bounty scammers get away with it in most of the cases... This results into more and more coming in doing the same stuff - partly or mostly using bots on dozens of Accounts. The biggest problem is - the number of these accounts go way up and they get hundreds over hundreds of Tokens worth in Ether.

I admit the fact that i did spam posting, but i am not going to kiss pharmacist's ass just to remove the reds,as far as i know multiple accoutns arent prohibited as long as you didnt joined the same signatures.If theres someone should be remove from here,it will be pharmacist because he is making his own rules ,do whatever he wants just to push his campaign "to fight the spam,to remove scammer,and other bullsh*t" he has.

he is accusing me that i am going to sell my alt accounts,without any proofs such speculation is stupidity.
he doesnt want to admit that he isnt in his position to to give reds whatever the reason he wants,except for scammers.

What are you even on about there's no way of having an actual logical discussion with you is there? "if you don't want spam you shouldn't be logged in" is probably one of the most idiotic statements I've heard in a while. You say that like it's a right that spam is allowed on the forum. What you did was unacceptable. You also went the wrong way about this if you improved your post quality and didn't spam The Pharmacist may have removed the feedback. Honestly, it's a fat chance of that happening now.  

I would wager that multiple people here on the forum would vouch that The Pharmacist has done good for the community.

If you dont want spam you shouldnt be logged in,its either you delete your bitcointalk account (not possible) or you start your own forum
SPAM/MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS whatever the reason you have,still you dont deserve to be in your trust position.

People like you are bullies which shouldnt be given a chance,you should be helping the forum not helping your self because you are irritated with the posts that you have red,so you are telling us that you are untouchable here? because you are confident that your rampage wont stop??

THEYMOS knows the main problem here,the signatures should be remove or accept the spam,no exception if he wanted this forum to be spam free.