Topic: Trump does an Obama Trick, and Twitter has pronounced it as World War III (Read 199 times)

Looks like I was wrong to assume that Iran stopped adhering to the Nuclear deal when Trump stopped honoring it.  There were several other countries involved that continued to honor it, and Iran did as well, until a few days ago when they announced they would no longer honor it.

This means that the clock started just this week, not May 2018 like I thought, and if there's no intervention or agreement they could have enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon as soon as 8-12 months from now, although some experts say it could take much longer.

So to answer your question, no, they definitely do not have a nuclear weapon right now.  Thank god.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/05/world/middleeast/trump-iran-nuclear-agreement.html

Trump can't go on a full fledged attack on Iran now and neither could Iran. Both of them can't afford that now.
The terms of US with it's key allies are at lowest and its hard for him to get support from Europe and Turkey. Saudi would gladly join on a war against Iran but Iran is not as easy as Iraq to get defeated. There are no allies of Iran that would support attacking on US. Engaging against US would not be beneficial to any power.
If Iran could play it cool, they could get some benefit from the situation. While US is losing it anyway.

what must be highlighted is that the "americans" are people in iran.. who just happen to have been born in america.

many people ignorantly take the media as if its iran throwing bombs at the land of america... no
its people in iran that iranians dont want in their country

here is the comparison
muslims in america. would it be ww3 if an american shot a muslim.
note the hypocrisy...
if an america killed a muslim in america .. americans would say 'get the muslims out'
if a iranian killed a american in iran the iranians should also get to say 'get the americans out'

it should not lead to americans then throwing bombs at iran. just like america think its wrong if muslims threw bombs at usa

What if Iran attack back on America? Its is going to be the beginning of world war 3 and they are not alone they are backed by Russia rival of US.Trump has given a chance for Russia to strike their rivals and only their citizen and soldiers will get affected due to this assault.

I don't think people understand the amount of blood that someone like this has on their hands. He was the second most powerful man in Iran, approving many attacks against the US (most recently the attacks on the US embassy and attacks which led to the death of a US contractor)

He is someone who has worked hand and hand with people who have killed hundreds of Americans and have authorized the killings of Americans. He is someone who is ACTIVELY planning the further attacks of Americans and would have continued to do so.

Killing someone like this sends a clear message to the people in Iran, and enforced a line in the sand that should've been acted on a long time ago. Killing Americans is NEVER going to be tolerated, and you will be punished for doing so.

That's the kind of message that should be sent to people.

USA liquidated as the media say the second most important man in Iran, and Iran is answered how? Nothing, one big nothing and I don't believe anything will happen, let alone some kind of war.

It's always wise to look at things from a different perspective, and in this case, it may not all look the way it seems. It is possible that Iran itself is involved in the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, in a way that they have given away the time and location to US intelligence. People are expendable, and perhaps the general became a burden to be dealt with.

Regardless of public intolerance between the US and Iran, I believe that there is another side that still cooperates on some issues. This can be a classic trade, you deliver us a general, and in return, the US will soften the sanctions in the future.

He's literally talking about Irans birth rate, in case anyone is wondering.

there is no point attacking iran, its a low fertility country that sacrifices itself for regional stability, the persians are sacrificing themselves to the stupidity of their neigbours, similar like germany in europe,

destroying iran could lead to a new afghanistan or somalia full of illeterate radical islamists hating the developed world

iran vs US does not = WW3

maybe gulf-war3

Not positive how it works, but I think if we go to war, NATO goes to war, and UK is part of NATO.  I don't think any country could just say 'we're going to sit this one out'.

I don't think it will affect Brexit.  Not all EU members are NATO members.  I don't think the EU is capable of 'going to war'.

The Obama deal ensured that it would take Iran about a year to produce enough Uranium to be a real threat, and the deal ended mid 2018, so it's possible I guess, but that's just for the raw material so I think it's unlikely. At the time some people said maybe in a couple years, some said it could take them up to 10 years to develop the technology.

Some probably are.  I wouldn't blame them for doing it privately in Trumps case.  Doing it publicly could easily backfire.  Turkey and Saudi Arabia share borders with Iran and Israel isn't far, I would imagine they are all working closely with our intelligence.

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin was also trying to calm down Iran right now.

If we go to war with Iran there will be no real winners. 

No, it isn't. Does not work that way.

You see, we erased a guy that had been waging war for twenty years, who worked for a country that had been provoking us and others  for decades, both of whom thought they were getting away with it.

Main difference was Obama killed a guy that pretty much most people has agreed was a terrorist. Sure it angered nuclear-armed Pakistan we know Pakistan ain't firing a nuke at the US.

This one was another state's official so it'll have a larger implication. Iran will probably not retaliate with a nuke over one person though I think they'll definitely harass US ships.

The tensions between US and Iran took a turn for the worse, when Trump ordered the execution of Soleimani who’s was an top Iranian commander.

While there’s no doubt in my mind that Soleimani was perceived as a threat by the US, however the timing wasn’t right for his execution as Trump is already facing a battle for retaining his presidency and on top of that Kim has also declared that he’ll be firing rockets soon.

We all will surely remember how Obama declared war and was able to retain his presidency for the second term, and it seems to me that Trump has also followed in Obama’s footsteps.

Twitter users have declared Trump’s actions as the start of World War III, and have managed to keep the hashtag : World War III trending on Twitter.

It was only yesterday that I had said in a different thread that Trump will not retaliate against Iran, but I guess I was wrong and this act by US is a signal that a war is indeed coming.

I have couple of questions if anyone can answer these kindly do so:

1) What will happen to US economy if they start a war with Iran?

2) Will Trump be able to convince Boris to join him in this war, if yes will Boris be forced to delay Brexit?.

3) Does Iran have nuclear weapons and if they do have will they target it on US and their allies.

4) Why aren’t the world leaders trying and getting both countries to back off before a full blown war starts.

Sources:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/02/middleeast/baghdad-airport-rockets/index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-armed-forces-military-uk-war-fight-army-navy-a8423116.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/31/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-warns-of-shocking-action-new-strategic-weapon.html

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/twitter-trends-with-world-war-iii-after-killing-of-irans-top-commander-in-us-airstrike-2444295.html

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/us-president-donald-trump-has-threatened-iran-5214253 (where I said Trump won’t attack Iran).