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legendary
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January 07, 2020, 11:10:31 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-boeing-ukraine.html

A Boeing 737 carrying 180 people crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran because of technical problems, according to the Iranian Students News Agency, a state-run media agency.

The conditions of the passengers and crew were not immediately known.

The plane was bound for Ukraine, the news agency reported.  



Perfect, one can blame Iran, US, or whoever else for this that fits the narrative they believe.

Oh this is great.... Here comes the slew of (warranted) conspiracy theories that are going to be fun to read through for days.

Where is Pelosi?  Congress needs to put the leash on Trump instead of just sitting by while he takes us to war.

I don't think Congress will be able to slow this down, the War Powers Resolution is vague enough that it might as well not exist, and they would need a veto proof majority to pass a new one.

Best chance of things slowing down enough to begin some sort of negotiation would probably be someone who can really kiss his ass and make him feel good, like Rand Paul or Lindsay Graham or even Mitch, convincing Trump that his maximum pressure strategy could have a worse result than Bush and Iraq and offering some scenario for him to back down and convince his followers he didn't actually back down and any negative side effects are 100% the democrats fault.



Oh yeah, Congress literally cant. They ceded all of their powers to the executive and this is what they get for it. I don't want this to be the case, but Congress should never have done this. This is literally what happens when the parties continue to give up power to 'their people' (meaning whenever their parties president is in office) and then it bites them in the ass.

Sigh. Really hoping for things like this to change, but it probably wont.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-boeing-ukraine.html

A Boeing 737 carrying 180 people crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran because of technical problems, according to the Iranian Students News Agency, a state-run media agency.

The conditions of the passengers and crew were not immediately known.

The plane was bound for Ukraine, the news agency reported.  



Perfect, one can blame Iran, US, or whoever else for this that fits the narrative they believe.
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Where is Pelosi?  Congress needs to put the leash on Trump instead of just sitting by while he takes us to war.

I don't think Congress will be able to slow this down, the War Powers Resolution is vague enough that it might as well not exist, and they would need a veto proof majority to pass a new one.

Best chance of things slowing down enough to begin some sort of negotiation would probably be someone who can really kiss his ass and make him feel good, like Rand Paul or Lindsay Graham or even Mitch, convincing Trump that his maximum pressure strategy could have a worse result than Bush and Iraq and offering some scenario for him to back down and convince his followers he didn't actually back down and any negative side effects are 100% the democrats fault.

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Where is Pelosi?  Congress needs to put the leash on Trump instead of just sitting by while he takes us to war.
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Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troops

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran state TV says Tehran has launched “tens” of surface-to-surface missiles at Iraq’s Ain Assad air base housing U.S. troops over America’s killing of a top Iranian general.

State TV described it early Wednesday as Tehran’s revenge operation over the killing of Revolutionary Guard Gen. Qassem Soleimani.


If any Americans died, it's Trumps turn to hit back harder or back down.
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With US doing air strikes and killing top generals of Iran, it might be the first strike towards world war 3. North Korea must be feeling jealous by all this as we all know Kim Jong un wants the lime light always on him. Iran will respond to this soon and we may see a war.
Actually it makes many country scared because of the strikes that has done by US that killed the general of iran. Honestly,  IRAN already raise a red llag in their mosque which signifies that a war is coming soon.  Hopefully this wont happen and will have peace on earth. 

Soliemani was on the ground, on the street next to the US Embassy, directing the attacks there.

Was this confirmed? Could justify America's action - - somewhat. Of course they'll still complain that the operation in Iraq was illegal but at least America can say that they were trying to stop the attack on their embassy.

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Our troops were in the country illegally.  IF iran had troops fighting in the streets of Kansas, would we bad for killing them?

Thats a dumb question because Iran doesn't invade other countries. 

You can say that in all wars the other country's troops are in there illegally.

There are actually laws about war.   We are/were not legally at war.  We are just there perpetually without permission from our government or theres.   Thats why its illegal.   

With that said, no one even has documentation linking him to the "hundreds of american deaths" myth being repeated by corporate media.

Yeah corporate media who's there to justify what the US is doing and why they're there. I think more than the military aspect of it, the control over mainstream media conditioning people that the us is there as arbiters of peace, would be their main function. Iran may not be a match when it comes to a head to head war against the US but trump may find it wise not to throw threats that could put sympathy in iran's direction.
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stupid iranians, attacking the us embassy was such a stupid idea, now everybody knows that they are no communists seeking to produce energy but simply imperialists disguising themselves like kommunists with a religious head. the treaties everybody is making with them are worthless. now everybody sees that even stupid and naive EU.

now there are very good reasons to invade and destroy their nuclear facilities.

sucks to think about that, i would have had no issue about middle east developing itself but running a nazi imperialist religious extremist agenda that is not acceptable and war is at gates.
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Our troops were in the country illegally.  IF iran had troops fighting in the streets of Kansas, would we bad for killing them?

Thats a dumb question because Iran doesn't invade other countries. 

You can say that in all wars the other country's troops are in there illegally.

There are actually laws about war.   We are/were not legally at war.  We are just there perpetually without permission from our government or theres.   Thats why its illegal.   

With that said, no one even has documentation linking him to the "hundreds of american deaths" myth being repeated by corporate media.
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I wonder how others around the world see Trump. Do they take him serious with the image that he portraits with that tweat. Is there fear, as if he's irrational. It's very simple, don't attack US locations in a terrorist way and he won't attack them back. That's very different than striking for no reason.
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Is he the same president who a accused Barack Obama of attacking Iran for second time president ship? All politicians are same, for there gains they can do everything.
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He did not threaten, Obama and other dickless wonders threatened. Trump kicked them in the balls!
NICE!

true obama was dicless with millions of red lines that where constantly broken, however trump might be a manic, usd imperialism and geographic discrmination (gazism)

are the evil marks of the usa today.
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Our troops were in the country illegally.  IF iran had troops fighting in the streets of Kansas, would we bad for killing them?

Thats a dumb question because Iran doesn't invade other countries. 

You can say that in all wars the other country's troops are in there illegally.

jes and in all human interactions the one that has more, owns more, or is more powerful does that illegally and has stolen everything.
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With US doing air strikes and killing top generals of Iran, it might be the first strike towards world war 3. North Korea must be feeling jealous by all this as we all know Kim Jong un wants the lime light always on him. Iran will respond to this soon and we may see a war.
Actually it makes many country scared because of the strikes that has done by US that killed the general of iran. Honestly,  IRAN already raise a red llag in their mosque which signifies that a war is coming soon.  Hopefully this wont happen and will have peace on earth. 

Soliemani was on the ground, on the street next to the US Embassy, directing the attacks there.

Where did you hear that?

It's weird that's not getting more coverage if true.
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Our troops were in the country illegally.  IF iran had troops fighting in the streets of Kansas, would we bad for killing them?

Thats a dumb question because Iran doesn't invade other countries. 

You can say that in all wars the other country's troops are in there illegally.
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Donald Trump tweets that he'll 'strike back' in a 'disproportionate manner' if Iran hits any US targets after Tehran put an $80m bounty on his head, threatened the White House and tore up nuclear deal


-    Donald Trump warned Sunday that the U.S. would strike back harder against Iran if it retaliated
-    Iran officials and supporters of General Qassem Soleimani vowed vengeance for his death in US strike Friday
-    Trump tweeted: 'Should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner'
-    At a funeral procession forSoleimani, Iranians were urged to donate $1 each to raise the bounty
-    Iranian MP Abolfazl Abutorabi threatened to attack White House during open session of parliament Sunday
-    MP's threat came after Trump warned that US would hit 52 targets representing victims of Iran hostage crisis
-    Iran has also announced that the country will no longer abide by any of the limits of its 2015 nuclear deal
-    Earlier on Sunday, the Iraqi parliament voted for US troops to be expelled from the country, local reports say
-    Iran also threatened to hit 35 American targets in region, including US ships, following top general's death
-    His body was returned to Iran early Sunday to chants of 'Death to America' ahead of a three-day funeral
-    Iranians raised the blood-red 'flags of revenge' over the minarets at the revered Jamkaran Mosque
-    Thousands of US paratroopers from the 82 Airborne Division continue to deploy to the Middle East


Iran has since placed an $80million bounty on Trump's head and threatened to attack the White House in response to the president's warning that any strike on American interests in the region will bring massive retaliation.


An organizer for a funeral procession for General Qassem Soleimani called on all Iranians to donate $1 each 'in order to gather an $80million bounty on President Trump's head'.

The organizer made the remarks during the procession in Mashad.

Iran has also announced it they will no longer abide by any of the limits of its 2015 nuclear deal.

A statement issued by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's administration said the country will not observe limitations on its enrichment, the amount of stockpiled enriched uranium as well as research and development in its nuclear activities.

It did not elaborate on what levels it would immediately reach in its program.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations watchdog observing Iran's program, could not be immediately reach for comment.

Earlier on Sunday, the Iraqi parliament voted for US troops to be expelled from the country. The vote will 'obligate the government to work towards ending the presence of all foreign troops on Iraqi soil,' the country's media office stated.


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This is personal

I don't understand why would they attack it and bring war opon their people.
Or was it the Iraqi who wanted to get Iran even more involved? o.o

They simply don't want any more interventions and destruction

And attacking an American embassy helps that how?
legendary
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With US doing air strikes and killing top generals of Iran, it might be the first strike towards world war 3. North Korea must be feeling jealous by all this as we all know Kim Jong un wants the lime light always on him. Iran will respond to this soon and we may see a war.
Actually it makes many country scared because of the strikes that has done by US that killed the general of iran. Honestly,  IRAN already raise a red llag in their mosque which signifies that a war is coming soon.  Hopefully this wont happen and will have peace on earth. 

Soliemani was on the ground, on the street next to the US Embassy, directing the attacks there.
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I don't understand why would they attack it and bring war opon their people.
Or was it the Iraqi who wanted to get Iran even more involved? o.o

They simply don't want any more interventions and destruction
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