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Obama better than Trump!

No. Obama is better. Nuclear deal with Iran and improving relations with Cuba was good moves from him even thow he had his own flaws like not handling crisis in Ukraine and a poor domestic health policy. Still better than Trump with his hate speech and severing relations with almost everyone from allies to enemies.

For a president who loves to talk about creating jobs, it's been a strong start: Employers have added 863,000 jobs during Donald Trump's first five full months in office.
That's not quite as many as the 908,000 jobs added during President Barack Obama's last five months in office.
But it's close, and a stronger than expected report on June job growth pulled Trump closer to his predecessor.
Of course, Trump's five-month record is far better than Obama's first five months, when 3 million jobs were lost. That's because Obama was sworn in during the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, when the economy was hemorrhaging jobs.
By contrast, Obama handed Trump an economy that was close to what economists consider full employment. The unemployment rate on Inauguration Day was 4.8%, and it has fallen since then, to 4.4% in June.
At full employment, businesses have an extremely difficult time finding available, qualified workers to fill job openings.

I have not seen significant changes happen to the United States after Trump served as president in place of Obama. I also have not seen anything from Trump that shows that he is better than Obama. So I do not think Trump is  better than Obama.

It's somehow early to let you know.

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

there is so much more, bro. its funny because when you list Trumps accomplishments, they are literally the antithesis of Obama's; attempting to repeal healthcare (also funny people like OCare now they they actually know what it is, instead of listening to foolish talking points), repealing Dodd Frank, rolling back advances in deprivatizing prison, repealing dont ask dont tell.


Sid, its time to ask. You don't live here, fortunately. Why are you in favor of populist policies, as you are not American? You are one of the most informed non citizens about American politics on this forum. So I never understood, because I assume you are brown, why you support policy that would diminish you. trump would barely let you in the States, he would see your people suffer if your nation was struck with crisis. Nor would he send aid. If your cultural group was attacked, he wouldnt even tweet about it like both terror attacka on mosques that he has failed to mention (has never mentioned any terror attacks except those committed by minorities). Trump could give a flying fuck if you breathe. You arent American. America first!

Why do you support being second?

As much as yall hate the fact that Big O had two terms, he gave a fuck about you. He gave a fuck about you so much he prioritized the whole. No fealty to us Blacks, he tried to advance the cause for us all, humans. Its a talking point that he "didnt help the Blacks'', as a Black man I have no problem with this. Unlike my supremacist counterparts, having eaten shit makes me empathetic to those that suffer. Dont help me. Help us.
Because I dont exist in a vacuum. I am part of a society that must thrive as a whole in order to function, and progress.

Trump is better than Obama and yes it is, in a way that he treats people more badly and he speaks for himself and do what he wants he is better than Obama in that way. I hope the citizens of America withstand his reign until his last day.

What benefit did Barack Hossein Obama brought to the United States? His major contribution was increasing the federal debt by $10 trillion. The recession happened under his rule. His foreign policy was a complete failure. I can't think of a single positive from his rule.

No way, Trump is doing it all wrong.

It seems to me that the topic of discussion between US President Obama and the tramp is very relevant for today. These are two different people, but at the same time everyone has brought some benefits to his country. In fact, even the crazy nature of donald tramp, will also benefit the United States and today we see results. As one scientist said, if you start very loudly and do not speak well, then you are doing the right thing.

No, it's simple. Even if you want to be a douche president then prove to be smart and not dumb like it's happening right now.

It amazes me what people claim without any evidence to back it up

Bombings have increased 50% with Trump over Obama... that's the facts... you claim they went down, where is your evidence?
U.S.-led coalition increases airstrikes by 50% against Islamic State

Trump increased the military budget by $50,000,000,000 (10%)

Trump sold $500,000,000,000 worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia (including illegal cluster bombs)

The first attack Trump did as Commander in Chief killed an innocent 8-year old AMERICAN girl!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki

For whom how. To whom that Obama was liked, and to whom that present president of the USA. I repose only in one, that good for all will not be. To me as a man independent in this question anymore likes Trump.

He may be an asshole in the outside and his attitude sucks unlike obama he didn't bomb invade countries, bomb innocent people, bomb hospitals killed countless of lives including women and children. In fact when trump was seated as president and in power of the united states the bombings has stoppes tge conflict in the middle east countries has calmed and since then when trump has been president the US government has minimized their interference in some countries internal affairs like the country Philippines that has issued to break the ties with the US government if they wont stop interfering. Of course it was obama's time.

No

International relations are at a lower point than they were with Obama. We were super active with Mexico, Canada, Asia, and even Russia compared to now. Mind you, Russia may of ruined those relationships but still overall international relations are down.

I can't stand how much of the finance regulations have been repealed.

The constant fight to repeal ACA has clogged congress horribly.

Obama > Trump

Even now, we can make a comparison between their policies. But right now we can't compare the success rate and accomplishment. For that I don't think that we may need to wait 8 more years. 2-3 years may be enough to give a clear picture.

Come on man, I know you are a fan of Trump, but Trump @ 156 IQ?

 


Trump on Media:
"Despite the constant negative press covfefe.”

"The #AmazonWashingtonPost, sometimes referred to as the guardian of Amazon not paying internet taxes (which they should) is FAKE NEWS!"

Trump on Technology:
“At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say how did we do it without space?”

“This is infinity here, it could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?”

"You know cyber is becoming so big today. lt's becoming something that a number of years ago, a short number of years ago wasn't even a word. Now the cyber is so big."

Trump, well, being Trump (my personal faves):

“Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again – just watch. He can do much better!” (Dafuq??  )

“An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud”

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

“One of they key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace. Good people don’t go into government.”

“It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”

“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”


Oh, nevermind dude, Trump said it. My bad.

And before you respond, yes, liberal media, Hillary, Soros, and deep state. in that order.

I think who is the bast its impossible to select because obama was president about 8 years and trump is a new president how to compare those person. if trump spend 8 years than we compare who is the best one.

I like obama because of his simpleness and personality..

Listen to whom? Lgbt? Immigrants (mostly illegal)? Other minorities? The government have to make desigions and not olways someone else should suppurt it. Thats how it works. Otherwise we could only make a rogram based on blockchain where everyone could vote for different actions (with Obama's electorate there would be only buttons like "feed the poor", "take money from rich", etc.). Obama was the most socialistic presient drowen by the worst part of the community.