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banning on this app happend before and now the time has come that usa will do the same . its okay for me if theyl ban the app but banning google and other more useful app can affect the performance of the country negatively .

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Apps should not be banned they should put just a note "hey if you use this app you risk being monitored by the gov of China,Usa etc"

why they need to banned the app when the reason is that they are only monitored whoever uses it? thats already a loss of privacy to the users and they could enjoy it . about privacy matters , apps like tiktok do requires an access to our gadget so this rule are always included on the terms of use or on the disclaimer before we install them.

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What will happend after the tiktok ban? All the tiktoker users will lose their product placements Grin

I don't believe that will happen it's against the liberty of expression and liberty of information. I think that users will found a way to continue to use it.

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Quote from: Harlot on August 02, 2020, 05:56:17 PM

Look if they have proven that the app of Tik Tok is spying on their users I think they have the right to ban it because first of all it is violating the privacy of its citizens and it is one of their first rights being a citizen, if the government doesn't act properly then they are basically not interested in protecting their rights. This is really not about the protection of their economy or the internet being regulated but the protection of their rights. And also I'm still wondering why these app stores like Apple and Google are still keeping Tik Tok available for download even if they have proven it spying to their users.

That is the most decent move that they can do, if the app does not properly and explicitly displays that they are taking data of individual users means that they are breaching the privacy, the case is similar to Facebook and other social media platforms but they atleast have the decency of making sure that the user is aware that they are collecting their data.

And also I'm still wondering why people are siding with a spyware app even if it is proven doing it, I guess still a lot of clout chasers will be affected in the US if the app was totally banned. But judging from the news I have been seeing there might be a chance that Tik Tok might not be banned in the US at all since their owner is interested in selling the US "portion" of their app/content to a foreign owner and Microsoft is the one strongly pursuing its acquisition, I think in this way both sides will have a win-win scenario removing any kind of doubt that the app will be spying in their citizens again.

Interesting if the purchase will go thru. Because if that will materialize, then banning it will not happen. But I guess, users themselves should be cautious on what they are sharing in this app. Millennials especially are too careless and lots of times, they share everything in social media. So in case something goes awry, it is only them to blame.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on August 02, 2020, 11:06:28 PM

Quote from: Harlot on August 02, 2020, 05:56:17 PM

Look if they have proven that the app of Tik Tok is spying on their users I think they have the right to ban it because first of all it is violating the privacy of its citizens and it is one of their first rights being a citizen, if the government doesn't act properly then they are basically not interested in protecting their rights. This is really not about the protection of their economy or the internet being regulated but the protection of their rights. And also I'm still wondering why these app stores like Apple and Google are still keeping Tik Tok available for download even if they have proven it spying to their users.

That is the most decent move that they can do, if the app does not properly and explicitly displays that they are taking data of individual users means that they are breaching the privacy, the case is similar to Facebook and other social media platforms but they atleast have the decency of making sure that the user is aware that they are collecting their data.

And also I'm still wondering why people are siding with a spyware app even if it is proven doing it, I guess still a lot of clout chasers will be affected in the US if the app was totally banned. But judging from the news I have been seeing there might be a chance that Tik Tok might not be banned in the US at all since their owner is interested in selling the US "portion" of their app/content to a foreign owner and Microsoft is the one strongly pursuing its acquisition, I think in this way both sides will have a win-win scenario removing any kind of doubt that the app will be spying in their citizens again.

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Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

Trump is preparing to ban TikTok

Maybe he didn't like the videos like this: https://twitter.com/BlakePavey/status/1288818865846120449 Grin

On the serious side, Trump is getting annoyed by this and that and he just thinks he will ban and everything will be OK.
TikTok (Chinese surveillance) is just a response to Facebook (American surveillance). So why just don't ban both?

All the news tell that Microsoft (yet another American surveillance giant) wants to buy at least the US operations of TikTok. Will Trump also ban Microsoft? Or he's just trying to help lower the price?

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Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

Trump is preparing to ban TikTok
It's bad for the economy ...
The web has become very very regulated ... ( In a few years decentralized web will change the internet ... and things will be back to normal when govs couldn't ban anything)

These three lines describe the situation quite precisely.
I don't think thats the right decision of Trump and neither I think a lot of people will be happy to vote for him after such dumb regulation
And of course this will affect the economy in a negative way, for US at least

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Trump thinks the app is a threat to us national security CCP has a direct connection with this app so action will be taken against the app there are countless such companies in the united states but they may have provided information to the chinese government behind the scenes. The data that is being provided includes facial recognition address phone number and contact address so we are going to solve this issue this only applies to defend their rights.

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Quote from: AniviaBtc on August 03, 2020, 01:00:21 AM

This economic war between US and China will surely create a big impact to its community as people are relying in the use of social media apps in their everyday lives.

Most of the people are getting entertained with using this Tiktok app, this is also their tool to showcase their talents in the social media without even knowing that their privacy is already unsafe.

We all know that internet is really powerful especially to those youth who are ignorant about the hazards of social media platforms. Be careful on accessing other apps not only tiktok, not only in China, but you should always check the legitimacy and security of an app before using it.

After the incident of closing consulates between the United States and China, Trump Sounding will be banned from ticking. Although American awareness is a bit too late because China has protected the country from the influence of foreign-owned applications that are popular and have their own application versions. I think Trump needs a lot of news diversion options for the poor handling of covid in America. The escalation of conflict between the United States and China has intensified, raising fears of an eruption between the two countries. But this is far from happening as long as the covid outbreak did not get worse and the results of the poll said support for Trump increased.

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What can you expect, China and USA are not in good terms, anything that china produce and they will get a market in the USA, I think USA would think of banning that as they want to market their product, I think there are also online apps created from US that are ban in china, so it's alright, that's how these two are treating each other.

I like TiktTok personally, not that I am uploading videos on it but i just want to follow beautiful women, lol..

So this means no american beauty in TikTok anymore.

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And before that really happens, Microsoft will buy the US version of it and collect your data this way. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/02/tech/microsoft-tiktok/index.html

If something makes that much money, nobody with a sense for businesses will let the chance to make even more go to waste

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Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

Trump is preparing to ban TikTok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtT5r6VIeB4

I hate communists but to be fair to China ... isn't the USA doing the same thing via Google,Facebook etc ... ?

Apps should not be banned they should put just a note "hey if you use this app you risk being monitored by the gov of China,Usa etc"

It's bad for the economy ...

The web has become very very regulated ... ( In a few years decentralized web will change the internet ... and things will be back to normal when govs couldn't ban anything)

This economic war between US and China will surely create a big impact to its community as people are relying in the use of social media apps in their everyday lives.

Most of the people are getting entertained with using this Tiktok app, this is also their tool to showcase their talents in the social media without even knowing that their privacy is already unsafe.

We all know that internet is really powerful especially to those youth who are ignorant about the hazards of social media platforms. Be careful on accessing other apps not only tiktok, not only in China, but you should always check the legitimacy and security of an app before using it.

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Quote from: Police Indo on August 02, 2020, 06:32:44 PM

it is Trump's strategy to be trusted by the public that he is a type of nationalist person, on the pretext that tik-tok can steal user data so Trump is now banning China from trading and influencing US society from the influence of tiktok, of course this happens because there is trade war between America and China. but indeed Trump is a very nationalist person.

He is really defending its people's privacy and security. We all know that US and China do really have a lot of conflict especially in the economy.

China is all about domination, he is all about being a businesses-minded country, and they want to dominate even the market and economy. This simple banning of Tiktok app in the US can really help the economy of China somehow go down. US is a big country and there are a lot of tiktok users in their country so probably it will cause a huge impact in China.

This is a good approach of Trump to affect the economy of China, war is not only about using massive destruction, it is also the economy, a country should need to attack and prioritize.

Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:54:12 PM

Nothing is private this days ... privacy is dead ...

Before you download the app they could put a note ...

If you are talking about privacy, it is really hard to protect it especially if you are not aware about the apps that you are using.

You should inspect and check the security of an app before downloading and using it with your own personal information and details.

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Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

Trump is preparing to ban TikTok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtT5r6VIeB4

I hate communists but to be fair to China ... isn't the USA doing the same thing via Google,Facebook etc ... ?

Apps should not be banned they should put just a note "hey if you use this app you risk being monitored by the gov of China,Usa etc"

It's bad for the economy ...

The web has become very very regulated ... ( In a few years decentralized web will change the internet ... and things will be back to normal when govs couldn't ban anything)

Sometimes I think that the web should be even more regulated,because Google,Amazon and all the other tech giants are using their monopoly to destroy the competition AND they are tracking us all the time.
I don't think that Trump will ban TikTok,he just wants to move the attention away from him and blame China for everything.This is just smoke and mirrors.First it was Huawei and now TikTok.Maybe after 2 months,he will find another Chinese company to blame for something,maybe Alibaba or ZTE. Grin

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Quote from: Police Indo on August 02, 2020, 06:32:44 PM

it is Trump's strategy to be trusted by the public that he is a type of nationalist person, on the pretext that tik-tok can steal user data so Trump is now banning China from trading and influencing US society from the influence of tiktok, of course this happens because there is trade war between America and China. but indeed Trump is a very nationalist person.

The ban was a justifiable action and I think that it is a good thing that he did that, the evidences that TikTok is taking sensitive data without the consent of the individual is very alarming. The fact that there is a tension between these two countries makes this a serious matter.

Quote from: Harlot on August 02, 2020, 05:56:17 PM

Look if they have proven that the app of Tik Tok is spying on their users I think they have the right to ban it because first of all it is violating the privacy of its citizens and it is one of their first rights being a citizen, if the government doesn't act properly then they are basically not interested in protecting their rights. This is really not about the protection of their economy or the internet being regulated but the protection of their rights. And also I'm still wondering why these app stores like Apple and Google are still keeping Tik Tok available for download even if they have proven it spying to their users.

That is the most decent move that they can do, if the app does not properly and explicitly displays that they are taking data of individual users means that they are breaching the privacy, the case is similar to Facebook and other social media platforms but they atleast have the decency of making sure that the user is aware that they are collecting their data.

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it is Trump's strategy to be trusted by the public that he is a type of nationalist person, on the pretext that tik-tok can steal user data so Trump is now banning China from trading and influencing US society from the influence of tiktok, of course this happens because there is trade war between America and China. but indeed Trump is a very nationalist person.

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Look if they have proven that the app of Tik Tok is spying on their users I think they have the right to ban it because first of all it is violating the privacy of its citizens and it is one of their first rights being a citizen, if the government doesn't act properly then they are basically not interested in protecting their rights. This is really not about the protection of their economy or the internet being regulated but the protection of their rights. And also I'm still wondering why these app stores like Apple and Google are still keeping Tik Tok available for download even if they have proven it spying to their users.

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Juggy777 has already made a thread about this ban by Trump for the Tiktok app on the Politics & Society.

Trump has declared that he’ll ban Tiktok over privacy concerns!!!

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 02, 2020, 03:56:37 PM

Well, some users of bitcoin and other information regarding them is still private.

Not really if you move the btc they can find you easy if they want to ...

All you have to do is buy something with btc or exchange it to fiat ( does not matter if you use someone else bank account etc ... )

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Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

Apps should not be banned they should put just a note "hey if you use this app you risk being monitored by the gov of China,Usa etc"

Well, there are warnings like that when you install it but as @Upgrade00 says it, they don't care since they doesn't know how valuable that information. They doesn't care that there are people are even dance in front of their cameras nude. Even though it is reported that TikTok is being used by China to snoop some information, it didn't stop.

Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:54:12 PM

Nothing is private this days ... privacy is dead ...

Well, some users of bitcoin and other information regarding them is still private.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on August 02, 2020, 03:44:38 PM

Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

I hate communists but to be fair to China ... isn't the USA doing the same thing via Google,Facebook etc ... ?

Th U.S can own nuclear weapons but would intervene when some other country tries to create one especially when they are not on cordial terms with such nation. There is political tension between both the U.S and China and as such they would not want their citizens to be monitored by them. It is also a means of hurting the growth of such apps, they've already lost a huge market in India.

Quote from: spy100 on August 02, 2020, 03:32:03 PM

Apps should not be banned they should put just a note "hey if you use this app you risk being monitored by the gov of China,Usa etc"

Where would such a note be put? On the app or the store where it's downloaded from? Even if it was possible to send out such a warning, it would have very little effect, most people are not aware of how valuable their data is and would not mind it being snooped on.

Nothing is private this days ... privacy is dead ...

Before you download the app they could put a note ...

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