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March 21, 2024, 04:47:41 PM
#39
The government has made it difficult for crypto investors to make any money by calling it a ponzi scheme. Now they want a piece of the profit? How's that fair?


What "government" called [cryptocurrency?] a "ponzi scheme"? Can you give us the citation where this assertion came from?

And yes, the government taxes profits. This is nothing new.


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Yes, he wants to, again, tax crypto earnings in the same all other investments are taxes.

Do you know how he wants to plug that loopholes? It's by making you report all trades and purchases and assign all your addresses to your ID, so that they can track you. In other words, they want to stop that few people who don't pay taxes by punishing the whole industry.

Again, where did you get this? For the purposes of collecting taxes, the IRS usually just wants to know how much money you made so you pay a tax on it. This is in no way being "against" said investment.

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Maybe you call not getting a special privilege from the government, "anti-crypto", but for me he's just making sure everybody pays the same rate of taxes.

How am I getting a special privilege? Isn't bitcoin already taxed in the US? People are reporting their profits every year, yet it's still unfair in the eyes of the Biden Administration?

Yes, I'm confused too. Again, please show us where you are getting this information about a new program to tax crypto earnings.


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Again, if he opposed crypto mining, why especially would the propose a tax on crypto mining? That's nonsensical.
Different kinds of customers have paid different rates for energy since they started selling it. That's nothing new.

That's because we don't need a tax on mining. There should be a tax on profit, which we already have, so that miners have to report their gains when they sell their newly mined bitcoin. The way they are attacking mining is they're trying to additionally tax miners on electricity because democrats don't like that this industry is growing fast and undermining the need for CBDC.
Shouldn't the rates be negotiated on the seller-buyer level, they way they've been for the last 10 years? Why do they need government in all that?

Well, state and federal governments have been taxing energy since we have energy bills. I guess you can debate whether they should do that or not--and in what form. But it's nothing new.

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Why is being in favor of a US CBDC... anti-crypto?

Because CBDC is government's answer to crypto. A centralized coin that can be made the way USD is and where every user is known to various government agencies.


Huh? That makes no sense. How does simply moving the current US dollar to a digital format change anything? We already effectively have digital transfer in the form of credit card payments. This clearly hasn't affected Bitcoin's rise to $1T+ in valuation. A CBDC wouldn't affect Bitcoin one way or another.


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And you know how Biden could have helped that happen? By providing a safer marketplace for mainstream investors. Bitcoin didn't break one trillion because a bunch of hackers thought it was cool, it did so because millions of Americans can buy it using a broker they know they can trust.

This did not happen thanks to Biden. This happened because the SEC lost in court.
Get your facts straight. Biden did not make the SEC approve ETFs!


Again, where are you getting this? The ETF was approved by the SEC under... president Biden. Of course you can say that the president doesn't directly affect these things very much and I'd agree with you, but such an assertion would contradict your central thesis that Trump would be better for Bitcoin investors.


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Markets function best amid stability and regulation that creates a safe environment for investors.
What comes to mind is that you can regulate things into the ground.

True, but without market regulation, investors cannot feel safe in investing, which means they won't invest. It's a balance.



legendary
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March 21, 2024, 04:27:00 PM
#38
That is not true. You are taking that quote out of context. He said he didn't think "wealthy tax cheats and [wealthy] crypto traders" should be given tax breaks at the expense of the poor. That's not even close to being "anti-crypto".

The fact that he addresses someone as small as crypto traders, when crypto is just an ant compared to the elephant of the stock market and other investment branches makes me think otherwise.
The government has made it difficult for crypto investors to make any money by calling it a ponzi scheme. Now they want a piece of the profit? How's that fair?


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Yes, he wants to, again, tax crypto earnings in the same all other investments are taxes.

Do you know how he wants to plug that loopholes? It's by making you report all trades and purchases and assign all your addresses to your ID, so that they can track you. In other words, they want to stop that few people who don't pay taxes by punishing the whole industry.
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Maybe you call not getting a special privilege from the government, "anti-crypto", but for me he's just making sure everybody pays the same rate of taxes.

How am I getting special privilege? Isn't bitcoin already taxed in the US? People are reporting their profits every year, yet it's still unfair in the eyes of the Biden Administration?

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Again, if he opposed crypto mining, why especially would the propose a tax on crypto mining? That's nonsensical.
Different kinds of customers have paid different rates for energy since they started selling it. That's nothing new.

That's because we don't need a tax on mining. There should be a tax on profit, which we already have, so that miners have to report their gains when they sell their newly mined bitcoin. The way they are attacking mining is they're trying to additionally tax miners on electricity because democrats don't like that this industry is growing fast and undermining the need for CBDC.
Shouldn't the rates be negotiated on the seller-buyer level, they way they've been for the last 10 years? Why do they need government in all that?

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Why is being in favor of a US CBDC... anti-crypto?
Because CBDC is government's answer to crypto. A centralized coin that can be made the way USD is and where every user is known to various government agencies.


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If anything, this would be a strongly pro crypto move since it will introduce millions of Americans to the idea of digital currency.

You want to be introduced to CBDC, be my guest, but keep me out of your wet dreams.
Want to jump off a bridge? I won't stop you.
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(To say nothing of simply getting our country off of outdated paper and metal currency).
By turning that into a digital currency under government's control, so that it's exactly the same currency that goes from point to point faster, the way you can send money with apple pay and all those other second layers.

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Yes, the government wants to collect the taxes based on what people earn. Again, that's nothing new. If you don't think we should all pay any taxes, well, that's a completely different subject--and you'd hardly start with cryptocurrency in particular since most taxes are paid in all kind of other ways.

I didn't say any of this.

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His administration pointed out that a particular industrial sector leads to greenhouse emissions. Good. But that's not the same as being against said industrial sector.

Which was proven to be a lie. The whole report they based that upon was disproved in Congress. This is a great proof they used that to attack bitcoin without getting opinions and analysis from both sides.


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Sure, from nearly zero before. That's very different than it surpassing one trillion in market cap.

I haven't said that it went up from 0. Again, the period that mattered was 2017-18 where it went 20x from 1k to 20k USD. That's far from 0.

And you know how Biden could have helped that happen? By providing a safer marketplace for mainstream investors. Bitcoin didn't break one trillion because a bunch of hackers thought it was cool, it did so because millions of Americans can buy it using a broker they know they can trust.

This did not happen thanks to Biden. This happened because the SEC lost in court.
Get your facts straight. Biden did not make the SEC approve ETFs!

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(And oh yeah, the supposedly "anti-crypto" Biden oversaw the approval of the ETF... why exactly?).

It was Gensler's job to do so and he got his ass handed to him twice, in court and in Congress.

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Markets function best amid stability and regulation that creates a safe environment for investors.
What comes to mind is that you can regulate things into the ground.
legendary
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March 18, 2024, 09:11:16 AM
#37
~

There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...

about 10000 to 1 shot on any of them dying . So 10000 to the 5th power of them all dying tonight.

the odds of hitting a block with a 1gh miner (gpu) are

1 gh in 600eh
1 gh in. 600000ph
1 gh in  600000000th
1 gh in 600000000000gh which is way better than 10000x10000x10000x10000x10000

but realistically
if trump could live 10-20 years he is about 1 in 7300 to die to night
and biden is maybe 17 years so he is 1 in 6000 to die tonight

so the chances of just those two dying tonight is maybe 6000x7300= 4,380,000

that is actually not likely a 4.3 million to one shot coming  in is very rare.

the other three are younger so 10,000 x 10,000 x 10,000 = 1,000,000,000 a billion to one


This might be true regarding averages. But are you including people who live on the street and use fentanyl and poop next to their street-neighbor's cardboard-box-home?

Neither Trump nor Biden live like this. Rather, they live with the best medical and nutrition that is understood professionally. This brings their odds of dying way down. However, this doesn't mean that they won't die. It simply means that they will "probably" easily beat the averages.

Cool

yeah I gave trump 20 years which would be 97 which is way over average.

and 20 years is 7300 days so I said 1 out of 7300 is likely a good guess.

biden I gave 17 years which would be 98 which is way over average.

thats about 6100 days so I

think the 4 million to 1 shot iis a close guess.

I just think no one their ages should run.

I rather agree with you about having an age limit. But because of the experience of old people, it would be nice to have a formal 'Old Guy', Advisor-To-The-President position that carries some authority... enough to stop foolish Biden mistakes, for example. The Advisor position could require somebody over 75-y-o, for example.

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I am 67 I clearly remember back to Vietnam 🇻🇳 Kennedy and Johnson.

I know my own mind and my own body.

At 67 in someways I am far better at the waiting game and hedging. I am less inclined to go all or nothing.

And if you knock on my door and wake me up at four in the morning it takes me seven minutes to dress piss and drink a cup of coffee. At 35 I could skip the piss and cut the time to 3 or 4 minutes.

Do I think I would be better at 80 than 67 no. But I could consult well to a younger guy.
legendary
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March 18, 2024, 01:31:02 AM
#36
~

There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...

about 10000 to 1 shot on any of them dying . So 10000 to the 5th power of them all dying tonight.

the odds of hitting a block with a 1gh miner (gpu) are

1 gh in 600eh
1 gh in. 600000ph
1 gh in  600000000th
1 gh in 600000000000gh which is way better than 10000x10000x10000x10000x10000

but realistically
if trump could live 10-20 years he is about 1 in 7300 to die to night
and biden is maybe 17 years so he is 1 in 6000 to die tonight

so the chances of just those two dying tonight is maybe 6000x7300= 4,380,000

that is actually not likely a 4.3 million to one shot coming  in is very rare.

the other three are younger so 10,000 x 10,000 x 10,000 = 1,000,000,000 a billion to one


This might be true regarding averages. But are you including people who live on the street and use fentanyl and poop next to their street-neighbor's cardboard-box-home?

Neither Trump nor Biden live like this. Rather, they live with the best medical and nutrition that is understood professionally. This brings their odds of dying way down. However, this doesn't mean that they won't die. It simply means that they will "probably" easily beat the averages.

Cool

yeah I gave trump 20 years which would be 97 which is way over average.

and 20 years is 7300 days so I said 1 out of 7300 is likely a good guess.

biden I gave 17 years which would be 98 which is way over average.

thats about 6100 days so I

think the 4 million to 1 shot iis a close guess.

I just think no one their ages should run.

I rather agree with you about having an age limit. But because of the experience of old people, it would be nice to have a formal 'Old Guy', Advisor-To-The-President position that carries some authority... enough to stop foolish Biden mistakes, for example. The Advisor position could require somebody over 75-y-o, for example.

Cool
legendary
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March 17, 2024, 11:13:45 PM
#35
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There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...

about 10000 to 1 shot on any of them dying . So 10000 to the 5th power of them all dying tonight.

the odds of hitting a block with a 1gh miner (gpu) are

1 gh in 600eh
1 gh in. 600000ph
1 gh in  600000000th
1 gh in 600000000000gh which is way better than 10000x10000x10000x10000x10000

but realistically
if trump could live 10-20 years he is about 1 in 7300 to die to night
and biden is maybe 17 years so he is 1 in 6000 to die tonight

so the chances of just those two dying tonight is maybe 6000x7300= 4,380,000

that is actually not likely a 4.3 million to one shot coming  in is very rare.

the other three are younger so 10,000 x 10,000 x 10,000 = 1,000,000,000 a billion to one


This might be true regarding averages. But are you including people who live on the street and use fentanyl and poop next to their street-neighbor's cardboard-box-home?

Neither Trump nor Biden live like this. Rather, they live with the best medical and nutrition that is understood professionally. This brings their odds of dying way down. However, this doesn't mean that they won't die. It simply means that they will "probably" easily beat the averages.

Cool

yeah I gave trump 20 years which would be 97 which is way over average.

and 20 years is 7300 days so I said 1 out of 7300 is likely a good guess.

biden I gave 17 years which would be 98 which is way over average.

thats about 6100 days so I

think the 4 million to 1 shot iis a close guess.

I just think no one their ages should run.
legendary
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March 17, 2024, 02:58:23 PM
#34
~

There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...

about 10000 to 1 shot on any of them dying . So 10000 to the 5th power of them all dying tonight.

the odds of hitting a block with a 1gh miner (gpu) are

1 gh in 600eh
1 gh in. 600000ph
1 gh in  600000000th
1 gh in 600000000000gh which is way better than 10000x10000x10000x10000x10000

but realistically
if trump could live 10-20 years he is about 1 in 7300 to die to night
and biden is maybe 17 years so he is 1 in 6000 to die tonight

so the chances of just those two dying tonight is maybe 6000x7300= 4,380,000

that is actually not likely a 4.3 million to one shot coming  in is very rare.

the other three are younger so 10,000 x 10,000 x 10,000 = 1,000,000,000 a billion to one


This might be true regarding averages. But are you including people who live on the street and use fentanyl and poop next to their street-neighbor's cardboard-box-home?

Neither Trump nor Biden live like this. Rather, they live with the best medical and nutrition that is understood professionally. This brings their odds of dying way down. However, this doesn't mean that they won't die. It simply means that they will "probably" easily beat the averages.

Cool
legendary
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March 17, 2024, 02:22:11 PM
#33
Both are horrible, I can't believe they are the only ones in the run in a country of 340 Million.

yeah its a fucking joke.

Every nite i tell myself when I wake up in the morning.

Trump
Biden
Putin
JinPing
Kim Jung Un


will all die peacefully in their sleep. 💤

Odds are high over 10,000,000,000,000,000 to one but it would be a cool longshot.
There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...

about 10000 to 1 shot on any of them dying . So 10000 to the 5th power of them all dying tonight.

the odds of hitting a block with a 1gh miner (gpu) are

1 gh in 600eh
1 gh in. 600000ph
1 gh in  600000000th
1 gh in 600000000000gh which is way better than 10000x10000x10000x10000x10000

but realistically
if trump could live 10-20 years he is about 1 in 7300 to die to night
and biden is maybe 17 years so he is 1 in 6000 to die tonight

so the chances of just those two dying tonight is maybe 6000x7300= 4,380,000

that is actually not likely a 4.3 million to one shot coming  in is very rare.

the other three are younger so 10,000 x 10,000 x 10,000 = 1,000,000,000 a billion to one


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March 16, 2024, 10:24:02 PM
#32

Those are the kind of things which would have been considered to be of a bad taste and unacceptable for both the Republican party and the Democrat party not so many years ago.


To be clear, it's still unacceptable for the Democratic party. And the for the non-MAGA portion of the Republican party.

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March 16, 2024, 10:06:12 PM
#31
I dont stay in the USA and very apolitical but if Trump should get on the pole this year with Biden, He is gonna win. Most people talking against him wont vote even country leaders dont want him back but it is beyond them if they cant stop him to get on the pole then they can't deny him. He seems not to stepping down
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March 16, 2024, 09:41:17 PM
#30
Both are horrible, I can't believe they are the only ones in the run in a country of 340 Million.

yeah its a fucking joke.

Every nite i tell myself when I wake up in the morning.

Trump
Biden
Putin
JinPing
Kim Jung Un


will all die peacefully in their sleep. 💤

Odds are high over 10,000,000,000,000,000 to one but it would be a cool longshot.
There's a higher chance of mining a BTC block with a PC CPU/GPU...
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
March 16, 2024, 09:38:44 PM
#29
Both are horrible, I can't believe they are the only ones in the run in a country of 340 Million.

yeah its a fucking joke.

Every nite i tell myself when I wake up in the morning.

Trump
Biden
Putin
JinPing
Kim Jung Un


will all die peacefully in their sleep. 💤

Odds are high over 10,000,000,000,000,000 to one but it would be a cool longshot.
legendary
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March 16, 2024, 09:30:09 PM
#28
By the way. Am I the only one who believes this thing about talking about Trump or Biden suffering from cognitive dispairment is just another example of how much politics in the United States seems to have devolved in during these years?
Just think about it, in previous years (around the 2000s and the 2010s) during political rallies the candidates would not talk about such topics at all, they would talk about policies and the way they wanted to try to improve the life of the average American citizen.
Some nights ago during one of his rallies Trump even made fun of Biden's stutter and people laughed at it.
Those are the kind of things which would have been considered to be of a bad taste and unacceptable for both the Republican party and the Democrat party not so many years ago.

Today it has become acceptable for one of the candidates to make fun of a medical condition of their political foe, instead of talking about policies. We have become desensitized...

I think that a country like the US, which is large and wealthy in general should be able to put forward decent candidates. But look at them: One is so old that could very well die while in Presidency and the other is a ranting idiot that is not much younger either. Where are the good US politicians when their country need them? Is this becoming a gerontocracy?
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March 16, 2024, 02:12:35 PM
#27
By the way. Am I the only one who believes this thing about talking about Trump or Biden suffering from cognitive dispairment is just another example of how much politics in the United States seems to have devolved in during these years?
Just think about it, in previous years (around the 2000s and the 2010s) during political rallies the candidates would not talk about such topics at all, they would talk about policies and the way they wanted to try to improve the life of the average American citizen.
Some nights ago during one of his rallies Trump even made fun of Biden's stutter and people laughed at it.
Those are the kind of things which would have been considered to be of a bad taste and unacceptable for both the Republican party and the Democrat party not so many years ago.

Today it has become acceptable for one of the candidates to make fun of a medical condition of their political foe, instead of talking about policies. We have become desensitized...
Obama wasn't senile though... I'm not saying he was a good president, but at least he wasn't old.

I just don't understand why why old guys should become presidents. Huh

Why not have 30-40 year old guy instead? Do you have to be 70-80 years old to be "mature"?

I would declare Gerontocracy illegal if I had it my way.
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March 16, 2024, 02:06:46 PM
#26
This is think this is an opposition post against the one that was created against Biden. We don't have to start a scene we can not finish.
Whatever we think a iut these people, we need to understand that non of them is perfect and there is need to observe the two great men and appreciate there efforts to make American great again. I am not here to talk against anyone or state a talk I will not be able to finish.
I will always appreciate the efforts of these great men because it is never easy to be a leader.
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March 16, 2024, 02:05:06 PM
#25
There is no evidence Biden is "anti-crypto", and Bitcoin has quadrupled under his tenure.
You forget the fact FED started printing trillions of $$$ in March 2020 during Trump's presidency. Who gave out the $1200 stimmy checks?

But it shouldn't really matter, because FED is "independent", right?

So it shouldn't matter if Trump or Biden is in charge, since FED can act independently... so your pro-Biden/pro-BTC point is kinda moot. Roll Eyes
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March 16, 2024, 02:01:49 PM
#24
I love the idea of imagining the world is controlled by a few mysterious men in a secret room somewhere, because that's really easy to understand. But in my experience the real world is a lot more complicated than that...
It's not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxJ1wPnkk4
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March 16, 2024, 09:33:23 AM
#23
By the way. Am I the only one who believes this thing about talking about Trump or Biden suffering from cognitive dispairment is just another example of how much politics in the United States seems to have devolved in during these years?
Just think about it, in previous years (around the 2000s and the 2010s) during political rallies the candidates would not talk about such topics at all, they would talk about policies and the way they wanted to try to improve the life of the average American citizen.
Some nights ago during one of his rallies Trump even made fun of Biden's stutter and people laughed at it.
Those are the kind of things which would have been considered to be of a bad taste and unacceptable for both the Republican party and the Democrat party not so many years ago.

Today it has become acceptable for one of the candidates to make fun of a medical condition of their political foe, instead of talking about policies. We have become desensitized...
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March 16, 2024, 01:35:19 AM
#22
Just speaking as someone who doesn't know much so I'll still leave this for those in the country to decide.

Good idea. People who live here know that Trump would immediately surrender the USA to Russia if he's elected.

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March 16, 2024, 01:07:59 AM
#21
Seriously I hate political arguments cause at the end of the day I feel we are all part of the game and donf really know what is going on at the top.

I'm not a citizen of USA but I really enjoy poking my nose in matters that hardly concern me and moreover I've watched some YouTube videos on both trump and Biden as the topic of it and there have compared then a lot of times and I've found out that those YouTube are mostly sentimental and would just favour one parry against the other.

But anyway I don't really like any of them in particular cause I head trump was that kind of very strict guy and would just immediately sack anyone that dares opoose him and yeah I feel he also has a strong attitude and is bold enough to be the leader of USA 🇺🇸 cause right now the world is in the middle of some kind of power competition and Russia 🇷🇺 and many other world countries are looking for ways to replace USA as world power or so I think, Biden is too soft to be a president and I would prefer trump over him. Just speaking as someone who doesn't know much so I'll still leave this for those in the country to decide.
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March 15, 2024, 09:56:31 PM
#20

But there is a difference between crypto and almost all other investments that is inherent in crypto [...]


No, there's not. Investment income is investment income. The technical means by which you invest is not relevant.

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Most taxation on privately done 'income' is prohibited by the constitution... especially IRS taxes. [...]


Uh... sure. You don't want to pay taxes. Neither do I. But it's something we all have to do.

And guess what, Trump supporters: Trump isn't going to repeal all taxes either. Nobody is, because the US would go instantly bankrupt if they even tried.

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