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May 27, 2017, 12:23:05 AM
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Is it necessary for Trump to deliver a speech for Ramadan? Islam is not even followed by 1% of the population in the United States. So I don't think there is any need to do that.

Maybe only 1%



but they are the 1% that matters to Donald



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May 27, 2017, 12:10:08 AM
#6
Is it necessary for Trump to deliver a speech for Ramadan? Islam is not even followed by 1% of the population in the United States. So I don't think there is any need to do that.
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May 26, 2017, 08:00:26 PM
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Israel is in a very difficult position. Look at the map and demographics of the region.

Jews have been demonized because Muslims are just jeleaous, IMHO. Jews through hard work are in the top of pretty much every field in science and technology.  Where are Muslims? Looking for reasons of their demise....



Point being? If Jihadists, of whatever religion, can get the upper hand, then they are not jihadists anymore, they are "in a very difficult position"?

The point is that you have a religion/culture that is thinking someone else is responsible for their problems.  It is easy to blame someone who is more successful than you, but it takes real soul searching,
self-criticism and some intelligence to understand the root cause of your predicament.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZMXV_PRXk

Islamists cannot be reasoned with, Western politicians do not understand what they are dealing with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp_1JvRsCYE




That's a good point. The proverbial mushroom growing on a turd. You are saying people are responsible for those they kill? Then who is responsible for making sure the killers get killed? https://www.thoughtco.com/the-causes-of-terrorism-3209053

The bottom line is that you cannot kill so many killers that you will finally stop killing from happening.

The vast majority of 'terrorists' are either authentically trying to right some wrong, or they are manufactured by people who think like you, who imagine they have some higher vision and the lesser people in the world are their props.

You can use rhetoric to make simple people think you might be right, but you sound like you are even fooling yourself, and that is not good.

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I agree that there are terrorists who enjoy killing, and who use their declining skills to target innocents, but I don't believe those are the people you are trying to portray as terrorists.
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May 26, 2017, 05:48:20 PM
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Jihadists are not very selective who their enemy is.

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Agreed, but jihadists are only religious? The failure to adequately selectively target is a product of one specific religion?

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Remember most Jihadists are failures in life. Not very bright to begin with. Gullible and easy to manipulate.

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Agreed as well. Give them uniforms and badges and they will behave.

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Israel is in a very difficult position. Look at the map and demographics of the region.

Jews have been demonized because Muslims are just jeleaous, IMHO. Jews through hard work are in the top of pretty much every field in science and technology.  Where are Muslims? Looking for reasons of their demise....



Point being? If Jihadists, of whatever religion, can get the upper hand, then they are not jihadists anymore, they are "in a very difficult position"?
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May 26, 2017, 04:30:56 PM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-ramadan-statement-talk-terrorism-article-1.3198626

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This year, the holiday begins as the world mourns the innocent victims of barbaric terrorist attacks in the United Kingdom and Egypt, acts of depravity that are directly contrary to the spirit of Ramadan.

Such acts only steel our resolve to defeat the terrorists and their perverted ideology.

Those of you who protest the 100 or so civilians we just killed in Mosul need to remember that the cost of terrorism is high. We may have to keep killing civilians at an ever higher rate, and you can be sure that if we kill enough civilians terror will become a thing of the past.

Problem is that terrorism is a form of Jihadism. And Jihadism is required to advance the Islamist goals.

There are three distinct things at play here:

- Islam - religion (just like any other religion, belief in ancient nonsense)
- Islamism - desire to impose ANY version of Islam on others
- Jihadism - use of force to advance Islamism

When Muslims talk about Islam, bow five times a day to an imaginary friend and don't care what other people believe or think, they go about their own business never think twice about advancing or spreading Islam.
They really mean "Islam is a religion of peace" (to them it is).  Of course, they conveniently ignore Islamism and Jihadism.

Islamism and Jihadism should be banned.  Problem is that it is impossible to separate Islamism from Islam.

That is why this religion will have a really hard time to reform and eventually, it will fail.  The question is not if, but when.


All fine and good, but what about Christians and Jews? I'm Jewish but I notice things like are mentioned on http://ifamericaknew.org/ Are those things true? Or is it just Muslims that kill civilians and try to couch it as "defending their interests"? And do you think the Muslims who kill vast numbers of their own over "terrorism" are anti terrorist? Or are they terrorizing their people in the name of counterterror, sort of cryptoterroristicislamo deception just because they enjoy blood?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-ramadan-statement-talk-terrorism-article-1.3198626
Those of you who protest the 100 or so civilians we just killed in Mosul need to remember that the cost of terrorism is high. We may have to keep killing civilians at an ever higher rate, and you can be sure that if we kill enough civilians terror will become a thing of the past.

Sorry, but I couldn't find that quote in the article. Are you sure Trump said that? Sounds way too extreme for a president to say, and also hypocritical especially considering they constantly attack Russia for supposed civilian casualties in Syria. Are you sure that's not fake news or something?

I'm sure. I don't believe in fake news. I don't think it is real.
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May 26, 2017, 04:22:58 PM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-ramadan-statement-talk-terrorism-article-1.3198626
Those of you who protest the 100 or so civilians we just killed in Mosul need to remember that the cost of terrorism is high. We may have to keep killing civilians at an ever higher rate, and you can be sure that if we kill enough civilians terror will become a thing of the past.

Sorry, but I couldn't find that quote in the article. Are you sure Trump said that? Sounds way too extreme for a president to say, and also hypocritical especially considering they constantly attack Russia for supposed civilian casualties in Syria. Are you sure that's not fake news or something?
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May 26, 2017, 03:51:36 PM
#1
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-ramadan-statement-talk-terrorism-article-1.3198626

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This year, the holiday begins as the world mourns the innocent victims of barbaric terrorist attacks in the United Kingdom and Egypt, acts of depravity that are directly contrary to the spirit of Ramadan.

Such acts only steel our resolve to defeat the terrorists and their perverted ideology.

Those of you who protest the 100 or so civilians we just killed in Mosul need to remember that the cost of terrorism is high. We may have to keep killing civilians at an ever higher rate, and you can be sure that if we kill enough civilians terror will become a thing of the past.
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