Trump regrets not banning twitter as he hails Nigerian government for doing so - page 3.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on June 15, 2021, 04:55:42 PM

This is not a big news, it is just Trump and Twitter feud because it gets clicks and that's it, but I still think whenever an ex president does something it is a news because people read about it.

The younger generation no longer watch cable news or read news papers. Among them, social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter will be having a disproportional impact. If someone like Trump is unable to use the platform, then it puts him at a huge disadvantage when compared to his rivals. And this actually happened during the POTUS elections of 2020. Many of his tweets were flagged, and in the end the account got suspended. Social media really harmed Trump during his presidential re-run.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 15, 2021, 06:05:45 AM

I think Trump was being cheeky/sarcastic in his statement, just like he's always been with the press. And why the mother-loving F is he still newsworthy? He's not president anymore, thank the stars--just a blowhard has-been who couldn't get elected for a second term.

But that's unfortunate about Nigeria banning Twitter, as it's a slap in the face to freedom of expression. Not that I particularly care for their platform, but I don't think they ought to be banned in any country unless they're doing something wrong, which I don't believe they are. Hopefully that doesn't become a trend in Africa or elsewhere.

REAGEN is still a think in politics, think about how ancient that is, most of us weren't even alive back in those days, First president in my time was papa bush, then Clinton when I was a kid, then bush jr when it was a teenager and Obama during my college and afterwards, and most recently trump when I started to bald a bit and losing hair. So we only had such a few presidents in the past 30 years, it is normal that people are still news worthy, Obama still becomes news time to time when he says something, hell "who will the previous president personally nominate as his best candidate for next president" is still a thing, and that is really a big deal.

This is not a big news, it is just Trump and Twitter feud because it gets clicks and that's it, but I still think whenever an ex president does something it is a news because people read about it.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 15, 2021, 06:05:45 AM

Kinda seemed that way, didn't it? But if you think about it, a lot of big companies are following the liberal agenda. Amazon's Prime Video has videos classified by race, if you can believe that. It's like all the companies are catering to the "woke" crowd, and I find that disgusting.

The social media and most of the mainstream media are under the control of a handful of ultra-leftist billionaires. And they decide what we should read and watch. I am talking about people like Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, Sergey Brin and Jeff Bezos. The amount of radical leftist propaganda that is being dished out through these outlets is astounding. Two years back, in Netflix they had a movie named In the Shadow of the Moon. The subject was a mixed race woman doing time travel and killing those who have a conservative political view. Can you imagine this? A movie justifying murder, just because the victims were conservative. And given the current trend, this is not going to end here. Very soon the liberals will say that those who vote for Republican party should be murdered (we already have a thread in the Politics section). And then it will get worse. These people will say that anyone who is not a radical leftist doesn't have the right to live.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 13, 2021, 04:07:10 AM

It's still not fair for the side of Trump not to be heard by the public. he is a political figure so there has to be a way to spread a word about what he has to say without having to call for a press conference when the press is also against him.

Are you talking about the blonde wig Trump that the majority of the world including me hates? Hilarious. He is an idiot who get elected thanks to a shit-ton of luck. Also, the term 'fairness' doesn't really mix well with Trump.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 15, 2021, 06:05:45 AM

I think Trump was being cheeky/sarcastic in his statement, just like he's always been with the press. And why the mother-loving F is he still newsworthy? He's not president anymore, thank the stars--just a blowhard has-been who couldn't get elected for a second term.

Spot on. Trump supporters are clearly trying to carry on his pathetic legacy by sharing this kind of news which is pointless in my opinion. They need to learn to move on.

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I think Trump was being cheeky/sarcastic in his statement, just like he's always been with the press. And why the mother-loving F is he still newsworthy? He's not president anymore, thank the stars--just a blowhard has-been who couldn't get elected for a second term.

But that's unfortunate about Nigeria banning Twitter, as it's a slap in the face to freedom of expression. Not that I particularly care for their platform, but I don't think they ought to be banned in any country unless they're doing something wrong, which I don't believe they are. Hopefully that doesn't become a trend in Africa or elsewhere.

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 15, 2021, 12:06:39 AM

They were just behaving as another arm of the Democrat party.

Kinda seemed that way, didn't it? But if you think about it, a lot of big companies are following the liberal agenda. Amazon's Prime Video has videos classified by race, if you can believe that. It's like all the companies are catering to the "woke" crowd, and I find that disgusting.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 13, 2021, 04:07:10 AM

It's still not fair for the side of Trump not to be heard by the public. he is a political figure so there has to be a way to spread a word about what he has to say without having to call for a press conference when the press is also against him.

if you feel sorry for NBA stars and Hollywood celebrities not able to say anything against China today then you should also feel the way Trump for shutting him down.

Social media platforms such as Twitter and Facebook played a very crucial role during the presidential elections last year, along with Google. Twitter and Facebook banned a number of Republican activists for the silliest reasons and disrupted the fundraising of GOP by removing Republican affiliated pages. They were just behaving as another arm of the Democrat party. The best example is the controversy surrounding Hunter Biden. Both Twitter and Facebook deleted any link covering the Hunter Biden story, while allowing fake news against Trump.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2021, 07:12:55 AM

Twitter is a social media platform and it should behave like one. Things get complicated when it intervenes in the politics and take sides. If they want to play politics, then they should not claim that they are just an intermediary. It also means that they are responsible for the content of their users. And this is applicable not only for Twitter, but also for other social media platforms such as FaceBook and Instagram. We all saw how social media can influence the elections, when these platforms put a complete gag on information related to Hunter Biden's laptop (a few weeks before the POTUS elections). Even a Washington Post article was removed from Twitter (despite the left wing bias of that particular news paper). On the other hand, left wing campaigners were actively posting fake news and Twitter took no action despite multiple users reporting them.

I agree, all of those companies want the best of both worlds, they sell themselves as this impartial network that should not be blamed by what their users post as it is just a platform, but a real platform like for example the electric grid does not ban users even when they are doing something bad with the service they are providing, after all no one blames the electric company if someone commits a crime using their services, however they also want to censor what people say on their platforms making them a completely different business and they should be treated as such under the law, something that right now is not happening.

They are free as they just allowing their users to post whatever they want, banning them though once there's a need
coming from the society,

But all in all they are free of charges fro the actions of thier users, nothing else and nothing to worry as long as they
are not doing it by their own or claiming things that belongs to them.

They are not free, if you can be banned from the service then they are not free, and once again that is not my problem, my problem is that they sell themselves as one thing but they are in fact another, one closer example to this is the telephone network, how many crimes have been committed with the network? A great deal as criminals can coordinate their actions because of it and yet they are not banned as it is an impartial network and the justice system uses this to catch criminals, the fact they can ban people which are not criminals just because they disagree with them is the modern equivalent of book burning.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 11, 2021, 05:03:46 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2021, 07:12:55 AM

Twitter is a social media platform and it should behave like one. Things get complicated when it intervenes in the politics and take sides. If they want to play politics, then they should not claim that they are just an intermediary. It also means that they are responsible for the content of their users. And this is applicable not only for Twitter, but also for other social media platforms such as FaceBook and Instagram. We all saw how social media can influence the elections, when these platforms put a complete gag on information related to Hunter Biden's laptop (a few weeks before the POTUS elections). Even a Washington Post article was removed from Twitter (despite the left wing bias of that particular news paper). On the other hand, left wing campaigners were actively posting fake news and Twitter took no action despite multiple users reporting them.

I agree, all of those companies want the best of both worlds, they sell themselves as this impartial network that should not be blamed by what their users post as it is just a platform, but a real platform like for example the electric grid does not ban users even when they are doing something bad with the service they are providing, after all no one blames the electric company if someone commits a crime using their services, however they also want to censor what people say on their platforms making them a completely different business and they should be treated as such under the law, something that right now is not happening.

They are free as they just allowing their users to post whatever they want, banning them though once there's a need
coming from the society,

But all in all they are free of charges fro the actions of thier users, nothing else and nothing to worry as long as they
are not doing it by their own or claiming things that belongs to them.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on June 13, 2021, 03:54:11 AM

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2021, 07:12:55 AM

Twitter is a social media platform and it should behave like one. Things get complicated when it intervenes in the politics and take sides. If they want to play politics, then they should not claim that they are just an intermediary. It also means that they are responsible for the content of their users. And this is applicable not only for Twitter, but also for other social media platforms such as FaceBook and Instagram. We all saw how social media can influence the elections, when these platforms put a complete gag on information related to Hunter Biden's laptop (a few weeks before the POTUS elections). Even a Washington Post article was removed from Twitter (despite the left wing bias of that particular news paper). On the other hand, left wing campaigners were actively posting fake news and Twitter took no action despite multiple users reporting them.

I agree, all of those companies want the best of both worlds, they sell themselves as this impartial network that should not be blamed by what their users post as it is just a platform, but a real platform like for example the electric grid does not ban users even when they are doing something bad with the service they are providing, after all no one blames the electric company if someone commits a crime using their services, however they also want to censor what people say on their platforms making them a completely different business and they should be treated as such under the law, something that right now is not happening.

They are free as they just allowing their users to post whatever they want, banning them though once there's a need
coming from the society,

But all in all they are free of charges fro the actions of thier users, nothing else and nothing to worry as long as they
are not doing it by their own or claiming things that belongs to them.

It's still not fair for the side of Trump not to be heard by the public. he is a political figure so there has to be a way to spread a word about what he has to say without having to call for a press conference when the press is also against him.

if you feel sorry for NBA stars and Hollywood celebrities not able to say anything against China today then you should also feel the way Trump for shutting him down.

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Trump is a coward! With all the atrocities going on in Nigeria and the wanton killings by herdsmen, the #endsars massacre of innocent protesters at Lekki Tollgate in Nigeria, he didn't see the need to make a comment or caution Mohammadu Buhari, the Nigerian president. The coward is now talking. Trump calls himself a democrat yet there's so little left to be desired of him in that perspective. A democrat who suppresses free speech is a hypocrite.

Quote from: electronicash on June 10, 2021, 01:54:44 AM

twitter had been meddling almost everything in politics that's why Trump had been banned there.

Twitter has a set of rules that governs its oppression and I don't think it will be right to allow anyone violate it and go unpunished. Trump's tweet was taken down because it violated Twitter's rule and so was Buhari's tweet. You don't dictate to a company what should be accepted by it because you're a president. Such is only condoned in Africa where politicians are worshipped as demi gods.

Quote from: electronicash on June 10, 2021, 01:54:44 AM

If he had the chance I guess he should have but during the time when he was the president.

He had all the chance but couldn't do it because he was a capital coward.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on June 09, 2021, 06:48:29 PM

Donald Trump supported hydroxychloroquine as the most affordable, easiest to obtain and most effective treatment for COVID-19 for a very long time.

There may have been a significant shift where Trump threw hydroxychloroquine under a bus. In favor of remdesivir, regeneron, vaccines and other COVID drugs which are significantly more expensive and questionable as to whether they're as effective as hydroxychloroquine. That may be one of the best indicators of Trump abandoning policies that were in the best interest of americans. In favor of policies which are in the best favor of special interests.

I'm not a big fan of the state having the power to lawfully nationalise or ban private enterprise. I don't think its a policy people should support. Banning twitter, social media or big tech isn't a solution to any of our perceived problems.

Hydroxychloroquine is not effective against covid and was stopped being used by real doctors (not the sycophants trump surrounds himself with) because all indications are it does far more harm than good. Vaccines have proven effective, HCQ never did. Trying to spin a narrative about dumping ineffective HCQ in favor of medicines that actually do work into a conspiracy theory is not only factually wrong, it’s deranged.

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Funny
Honestly you don't need to consult a psychologist to know what's going on in his mind.
"You banned my account! I will ban you from my whole country ( if I could)"
First I used to actually get angry about his behavior but I do believe that his mind is that of a teenager therefore these things don't even matter much now. He is no more a forceful influential person. He is just trying to grab attention. I do believe no matter what good did come out of banning Twitter in Nigeria, at the end of the day people should not be banned from using social platforms, it's more or so their rights. They can go about any probelm in a different direction for sure.
Why do people criticize North Korea ? People do not have any freedom at all !!!! Plus this seems like the first step to creating a space like that.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 09, 2021, 11:45:07 AM

I am surprised that Trump, who was the head of the largest country for freedoms and democracy in the world, congratulates the head of a dictatorial country on this dictatorial act that suppresses freedoms and confiscates ideas, it is an agreement of corrupt political interests What these corrupt politicians do.

You did not notice that Donald Trump had a tendency to dictatorship? The only thing that prevented him from manifesting it was the American constitution that was upheld by the legislature as it refused to be bought over by Trump. Otherwise there is no difference between Trump and the leaders in Africa. Did you not see how he refused to accept victory which is the character of African politicians. Again, Trump knew that banning Twitter would further made his case against the media worse and an easy way to be hated more by Americans. That was why he never banned it.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2021, 07:12:55 AM

Twitter is a social media platform and it should behave like one. Things get complicated when it intervenes in the politics and take sides. If they want to play politics, then they should not claim that they are just an intermediary. It also means that they are responsible for the content of their users. And this is applicable not only for Twitter, but also for other social media platforms such as FaceBook and Instagram. We all saw how social media can influence the elections, when these platforms put a complete gag on information related to Hunter Biden's laptop (a few weeks before the POTUS elections). Even a Washington Post article was removed from Twitter (despite the left wing bias of that particular news paper). On the other hand, left wing campaigners were actively posting fake news and Twitter took no action despite multiple users reporting them.

I agree, all of those companies want the best of both worlds, they sell themselves as this impartial network that should not be blamed by what their users post as it is just a platform, but a real platform like for example the electric grid does not ban users even when they are doing something bad with the service they are providing, after all no one blames the electric company if someone commits a crime using their services, however they also want to censor what people say on their platforms making them a completely different business and they should be treated as such under the law, something that right now is not happening.

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I am not entirely sure if Trump really cares about losing the election as much as he cares about being banned from twitter. Honestly twitter was a place where he could do whatever he wants and say whatever he wants and gets a ton of love from people, or even hate but he was always in the news and he was always getting attention and as a narcissistic person it was always known that he loves to get fans or haters but at least some attention.

Being president was a ton of work and he may not like that, dude had so much responsibility during his presidential years, I personally would love to be a president but I know that I would also would love to get rid of being president as soon as I became one, he probably feels the same way, like a weight is lifted off his back. However twitter was something else, he could do that while in the toilet, it wasn't work, he said whatever he wants and got love, so I think he might be more upset about twitter ban then presidential loss.

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Read about this and what happened. The president was threatening some separatist groups in these of the country and then Twitter removed the tweet, and that led to the president getting angry and banning Twitter from the country. Although I wouldn’t really say that Twitter is right about the action they took, but I do understand that they have rules that are against such on their platform, although some people have argued that Twitter is fond of taking sides. And then as for the President of Nigeria, I think if you all are really following up with what has been happening in that country, you all are going to hate that man.

I guess that’s why a lot of people were happy when Twitter deleted that tweet, because almost everybody in that country hates the president and his corrupt cohorts.

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The only thing I find intriguing about the content of this post if that Trump actually regrets anything of what he has done in his entire life. It is very obvious that Trump expected to have a degree of control on Twitter while he was president, which he did, but when it became obvious that he was not going to be re-elected, Twitter got rid of the dead presidential weight.

Twitter was weaponised by Trump to create a sectarian partisanship. Nigeria´s case different.

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Twitter is the voice of people and it's there people can freely spread their words and even of some country ban twitter just like Nigerian and some other governments did, people still can use some vpn services and access this website like other people usually do. I believe even if they ban twitter another projects more stronger than it will grow. In the other hand, many people are earning money using twitter and blocking twitter can damage lots of people and businesses. So sad to see Nigeria doing such thing to people.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on June 10, 2021, 03:03:46 PM

Trump was an idiot who rallied people to occupy the capitol which is still not passing from senate and thankfully FBI is at least jailing some people and that is very good outcome, after that it was very normal for him to get banned, if I collected bunch of people that resulted with them occupying the capital, then I would be at least banned from twitter, probably would be jailed forever as well.

Typical left wing justification. Trump needs to be banned for not condemning the capitol storming. But tweets from people like Mahathir Mohammad are OK, even if they incite the followers to murder a certain ethnic group. Being run by a left-wing cabal, I don't expect anything better from Twitter as well. Also, they are partly owned by Arab billionaires. I would just say this - if Twitter can ban users as per their wish, then the governments around the world can also ban Twitter if they don't follow the local laws.

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Personally, I don't agree that banning Twitter is tantamount to stifling freedom of speech. Whatever you want to tweet you can always speak somewhere else. It is not as if Twitter is the only way for people to have a voice. It is not the only public platform either. Neither is it the only avenue for voices to be heard.

As a matter of fact, Twitter itself is also doing the sifting of which tweet is allowed and which is not. So Twitter cannot be made a poster boy of freedom of speech.

Moreover, a sovereign country has the privilege to choose which site is allowed and which is not. At the end of the day, Twitter is but a private site owned by a private company. Any country is free to accept it or not.

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