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Quote from: DD-Lex on February 04, 2017, 07:40:02 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on February 04, 2017, 06:17:28 PM

Quote from: BCEmporium on February 03, 2017, 12:30:30 AM

Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!.....
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

I think that Trump and Putin together can put a stop to the utter nonsense of the tragedy in Syria.

Trump said he would.

Hitlery pretty much said she would expand it, fighting the Evil Russia.

The cooperation of Trump and Putin can neither good cause. How can they lead to peace in Syria, if the interests of their opposite. No, I think it is a utopia born of a diseased imagination of Putin. Putin considers Trump an idiot. Therefore, offers cooperation.

putin knew for fact Obama was idiot

Now he has to deal with trump

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Quote from: Spendulus on February 04, 2017, 06:17:28 PM

Quote from: BCEmporium on February 03, 2017, 12:30:30 AM

Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!.....
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

I think that Trump and Putin together can put a stop to the utter nonsense of the tragedy in Syria.

Trump said he would.

Hitlery pretty much said she would expand it, fighting the Evil Russia.

The cooperation of Trump and Putin can neither good cause. How can they lead to peace in Syria, if the interests of their opposite. No, I think it is a utopia born of a diseased imagination of Putin. Putin considers Trump an idiot. Therefore, offers cooperation.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on February 03, 2017, 12:30:30 AM

Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!.....
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

I think that Trump and Putin together can put a stop to the utter nonsense of the tragedy in Syria.

Trump said he would.

Hitlery pretty much said she would expand it, fighting the Evil Russia.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 05:13:55 AM

Quote from: 00hash01 on January 30, 2017, 06:40:45 AM

Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.

In Syria, the Russian bombing of the city. They are not fighting ISIS. We saw Russian gave ISIS Palmyra and left there a lot of weapons. Even tanks! You want to say it was an accident?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 10:29:25 PM

Quote from: Mersedes on February 02, 2017, 01:59:19 PM

You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.

You are mistaken. Look at the current scenario. Last month, more than 90% of the Russian airstrikes were directed against the ISIS. The SAA-Russian-Iranian alliance is advancing against the ISIS in several fronts. These include Northeast Aleppo (Al Bab), Southeast Aleppo (Deir Hefer), Central Desert (Palmyra), Eastern Desert (Deir Ezzor), and Tabqa.

Unfortunately neither you nor I can say that Russian is not bombing Syrian cities and there not killed civilians. You for your posts, use the official information of Russian mass Media and who believes them?

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Everyone insist to talk on this as if Trump's idea was to shelter terrorists at that safe zone!
Neither Russians, Iranians or Syrians are fighting civilians, and that's what a safe zone is for.

About Obama's... well... the Russians were way patient!

Like an Apache escorting ISIS convoys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jQRqU-KAcM

Supplies to the facade "FSA" ending up with ISIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9k9HbHMZqg

A second hand Texan pick-up ending with them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ojLvxXLKo

Supply crates falling "by mistake" at ISIS controlled territory, and so on, and so on...
Actually since Russians put boots on the ground ISIS keeps loosing territory after territory, now if Trump keeps to his word, it may be finally the end of that thing.

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Quote from: Mersedes on February 02, 2017, 01:59:19 PM

You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.

You are mistaken. Look at the current scenario. Last month, more than 90% of the Russian airstrikes were directed against the ISIS. The SAA-Russian-Iranian alliance is advancing against the ISIS in several fronts. These include Northeast Aleppo (Al Bab), Southeast Aleppo (Deir Hefer), Central Desert (Palmyra), Eastern Desert (Deir Ezzor), and Tabqa.

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I think that Syria could start world war 3. This is much worse than America's war with Russia. In Syria crossed the interests of many States. Russia felt America's weakness and is now trying to capture more territories.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 05:13:55 AM

Quote from: 00hash01 on January 30, 2017, 06:40:45 AM

Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.

You are not right. Russia is not at war with ISIS. They are fighting only the Americans. And the fact that it is very slow, it is because the Americans did not destroy the whole city to kill 100 bandits.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 05:13:55 AM

Quote from: 00hash01 on January 30, 2017, 06:40:45 AM

Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.

Not true! Russia has never fought in Syria with ISIS. Russia is interested that Syria will never have peace. Now media say that the Assad stroke. If this is true then it can greatly complicate Russia's position in Syria. Then they need ISIS.

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Quote from: 00hash01 on January 30, 2017, 06:40:45 AM

Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

At least in Syria, the Russians are fighting against the ISIS. They are not bombing the other rebel formations. And moreover, they are helping anyone who is waging a war against the ISIS. This includes the Kurdish YPG in addition to the Syrian Army.

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Quote from: 00hash01 on January 30, 2017, 06:40:45 AM

Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

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The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

You are confused! Assad is legit president of Syria, and Russia support Syria and Assad, they are bombing rebellion forces, as we know rebel forces are ISIS. From your point of view US is directly allied with terrorists?
As I followed news in one moment Russia suggested to US to fight together against rebels and ISIS, US refused that, why?
Cold war ended 1991, at least that was official announcement, looks like it wasnt end for US, from that time until now US is manipulate with governments, régimes, CIA is working 24\7, and they made a mess where ever that lay their foot.

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Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

The same can be said about Russia. What Russia is doing in Syria? The Russians have always supported and support any side that is against America. This is the reason why Russia is bombing Syria and supports Assad.

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Quote from: SvenBomvolen on January 30, 2017, 06:34:33 AM

Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

Very good point indeed. But I would even go further.

USA is trying to threaten both Russia and China. They're just in the middle saying "care folks, don't think too much about becoming friends or I'll reap all of you". That's something terrible, we should just tell them to go fuck themselves. Americans...

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Its not about Trump here, its the USA. And what USA wish in Syria? Why USA needs some military base there? USA is trying to surround Russia, USA is in Ukraine, and some EU countries on Russian borders. Thats why USA is in Asia, and now its clear what is USA is doing for years. Why do USA needs all this, well war industry needs to work, its all about money and power.

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Quote from: criptix on January 28, 2017, 12:48:19 PM

Trump wants to create safe zones in syria which directly means that the US will have to create no fly zones and send in ground forces.
Putin already answered that russia will in no way accept a no fly zone.

This is the exact thing why people didnt wanted to vote hillary.
Trump seems to do it now.

Discuss.

Nothing to discuss man.

Hillary wants to make that: OMG it's WW3 coming! Don't vote for her she wants war with russia omg doom omg end of the world

Trump actually does it: Nah he's got a bigger plan, it's ok. He's a strategist, there is a whole strategy to stabilize this part of the world.

And Trump supporters call us "illogical libtards" xD

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Safe zone in Syria is indeed makes the relationship between the US and Russia heats up. Because the safety zone requires protection of ground troops is something that may not be approved by the Syrian government and its supporters, Moscow and Tehran. Not easy to do this, there should be diplomacy and this would be the length can even continue occurrence of war.

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Quote from: tvbcof on January 29, 2017, 11:24:57 AM

Turkey is a NATO member who willingly hosted vast numbers of these 'immigrants'. Seems that they mostly volunteered their land as a staging and sorting area, and training ground, to inject them and their gear into other countries for strategic operations. Some went to Europe and others to Syria and Iraq. Turkish troops have also entered Syria and Iraq and as far as I know, are still there.

Seems to me that an appropriate 'safe zone' would be the Kurdish areas of Turkey more than anything. If it meant kicking Turkey out of NATO first that would be 'oh soooo sad.'

Jordan also volunteered some of their territory for use by the CIA/Mosad as they enlisted jihadis from all over the area. IIRC, in one of the wikileaks mails Hillary herself said that it was impossible or unfair for Jordan to take these people because they were 'impossible to vet'. So I guess they have to go to Germany and Sweden instead.

I cannot say that I am terribly disappointed that Trump plans to vet them properly before they come to the U.S..

Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO and it should be replaced with Kurdistan. Why is a backstabber like Turkey remaining in the NATO? Along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey remains one of the top sponsors of the ISIS.

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Turkey is a NATO member who willingly hosted vast numbers of these 'immigrants'. Seems that they mostly volunteered their land as a staging and sorting area, and training ground, to inject them and their gear into other countries for strategic operations. Some went to Europe and others to Syria and Iraq. Turkish troops have also entered Syria and Iraq and as far as I know, are still there.

Seems to me that an appropriate 'safe zone' would be the Kurdish areas of Turkey more than anything. If it meant kicking Turkey out of NATO first that would be 'oh soooo sad.'

Jordan also volunteered some of their territory for use by the CIA/Mosad as they enlisted jihadis from all over the area. IIRC, in one of the wikileaks mails Hillary herself said that it was impossible or unfair for Jordan to take these people because they were 'impossible to vet'. So I guess they have to go to Germany and Sweden instead.

I cannot say that I am terribly disappointed that Trump plans to vet them properly before they come to the U.S..

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Most of use are always thinking that President Trump of United states have an evil side. For me, I think, this is not that kind of evil side, but it is like how he manage or rule the United States. We see how he is criticizing everyone or every country, this how he manage as president. We do not know what is his plans, ideas and knowledge on how he can handle or manage as president of the United States

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