Topic: TrumpCoin - Where do we go from here? Updated 7/5/2016 - page 4. (Read 6319 times)
Hey All
I'm still very much interested in remaining onboard as the media content producer/director for the coin.
Throughout all of the recent drama I've been as active as possible on /biz/, here and yobit trying to offer a positive perspective on the future of the coin and do not believe I was lying when doing so. This is a minor speed-bump in the scheme of things and I've said this since this situation first cropped up.
My skill set revolves primarily around video production but I'm also a writer as well as a marketing consultant. I have a studied grasp on the fundamentals of selling a concept and will do my best to utilise these fundamentals in any way possible provided they are utilised ethically.
I've said this time and time again but I will reiterate. This coin for me has always been about Trump and those who believed in him enough to invest in his name with their hard earned money. That's why I defended chicken65 when people suggested he'd stolen the fund and run to Costa Rica (this is why you don't list to the trollbox people), why I defended CantStump when people suggested he was the same person as chicken65 and that this was all a Tyler Durden-esque masquerade and why I defended Signal when people suggested this was a cartoonish plot to steal a fund that becomes worthless the minute anyone steals it. I didn't do this to gain favour with whichever person appeared to be most prominent in the community, I did it because I believe, even in crypto, that baseless accusations are not enough to fully condemn someone.
Yes, chicken65 has made some unwise decisions over the last few days and the direction he has in mind for the coin is dissimilar from mine and many other people here but I don't hold any resentment for the guy and respect his position as founder. I see no reason why he can't still pursue his methods of obtaining attention for the coin autonomously, in fact it should be encouraged as should the methods of any other member of this community.
There should be no inalienable leader to this thing. The American Liberal Democracy (and I say liberal in the John Stuart Mill liberty sense, not the hair-dyed save-the-whales sense) encourages above all else accountability and the separation of powers and duty, principles a coin based on an American election should take very seriously. Delegating responsibilities based on certain people's aptitudes is always a wise structure for management and prevents the error of human nature when one person has to overstretch themselves to fit roles they may not be as suited to.
The leaders for this should be a fixed point for investors to anchor to when the tides of hype and panic start to carry them away from the shores of rationality. But like all leaders their roles should be limited (as Trump's will be when he is inevitably elected into the executive position).
This is a good thing. We have an amazing community here that I'm still very much an active part of whether you elect me or not, and that community is what will take this coin into the spotlight, not the actions of any one person. I've already got two of these videos under my belt and a facebook page set up I'm more than happy to continue to run so if you need evidence of my competency give those a look. Just know that each thing I do, I try to make better than the last and the same is true for the content I am attempting to produce now. I'm glad to see the apocalyptic predictions for this coin have primarily subsided and I'm glad to see that regardless of whatever happened recently everyone is still willing to work together logically and openly for the future of the project and not for the interests of any one individual.
Cheers and let's MAGA.
I'm still very much interested in remaining onboard as the media content producer/director for the coin.
Throughout all of the recent drama I've been as active as possible on /biz/, here and yobit trying to offer a positive perspective on the future of the coin and do not believe I was lying when doing so. This is a minor speed-bump in the scheme of things and I've said this since this situation first cropped up.
My skill set revolves primarily around video production but I'm also a writer as well as a marketing consultant. I have a studied grasp on the fundamentals of selling a concept and will do my best to utilise these fundamentals in any way possible provided they are utilised ethically.
I've said this time and time again but I will reiterate. This coin for me has always been about Trump and those who believed in him enough to invest in his name with their hard earned money. That's why I defended chicken65 when people suggested he'd stolen the fund and run to Costa Rica (this is why you don't list to the trollbox people), why I defended CantStump when people suggested he was the same person as chicken65 and that this was all a Tyler Durden-esque masquerade and why I defended Signal when people suggested this was a cartoonish plot to steal a fund that becomes worthless the minute anyone steals it. I didn't do this to gain favour with whichever person appeared to be most prominent in the community, I did it because I believe, even in crypto, that baseless accusations are not enough to fully condemn someone.
Yes, chicken65 has made some unwise decisions over the last few days and the direction he has in mind for the coin is dissimilar from mine and many other people here but I don't hold any resentment for the guy and respect his position as founder. I see no reason why he can't still pursue his methods of obtaining attention for the coin autonomously, in fact it should be encouraged as should the methods of any other member of this community.
There should be no inalienable leader to this thing. The American Liberal Democracy (and I say liberal in the John Stuart Mill liberty sense, not the hair-dyed save-the-whales sense) encourages above all else accountability and the separation of powers and duty, principles a coin based on an American election should take very seriously. Delegating responsibilities based on certain people's aptitudes is always a wise structure for management and prevents the error of human nature when one person has to overstretch themselves to fit roles they may not be as suited to.
The leaders for this should be a fixed point for investors to anchor to when the tides of hype and panic start to carry them away from the shores of rationality. But like all leaders their roles should be limited (as Trump's will be when he is inevitably elected into the executive position).
This is a good thing. We have an amazing community here that I'm still very much an active part of whether you elect me or not, and that community is what will take this coin into the spotlight, not the actions of any one person. I've already got two of these videos under my belt and a facebook page set up I'm more than happy to continue to run so if you need evidence of my competency give those a look. Just know that each thing I do, I try to make better than the last and the same is true for the content I am attempting to produce now. I'm glad to see the apocalyptic predictions for this coin have primarily subsided and I'm glad to see that regardless of whatever happened recently everyone is still willing to work together logically and openly for the future of the project and not for the interests of any one individual.
Cheers and let's MAGA.
I think all previous BTC talk threads should be deleted.
Thank god .rocks is going away.
Thank god .rocks is going away.
These are the terms that we have agreed upon.
1: There will be a provably fair election to choose an official board for the project covering a number of roles.
2: All members of the newly elected board will be fully vetted to one another. There will be at least one or more publicly visible identities to serve as spokespeople for the vetted circle to attest to the authenticity of the group. Chicken65 is welcome and encouraged to run for a seat on the board. In addition to any seat that he is elected into, he has a permanent title of Founder that he may use publicly.
3: The .rocks site is to be removed. The official forum thread, .com website, and direction of the overall project will be in the control of Signal7 while the new board is being created.
4: For the time being, Chicken65 will continue to hold 100k of the Trump Fund and Signal7 will hold the other 100k. Both halves of the fund will be stored in publicly visible wallets and will not be moved under any circumstances before a provably fair vote occurs to decide how to properly secure the fund, with whom, and under what terms.
The portion of the fund temporarily entrusted to me is here: TGyL5KXE4FdEUG1UAQ677aSamwCYcihGcn
Working block explorer: http://www.vicenet.org:3001
Once Chicken65 has the half returned to him from escrow, I will update with that address.
The voting system will be online within 24 hours. I will update again with instructions when it is ready.
The first series of votes will cover how the fund is ultimately secured.
If there are other outstanding issues that you would like to see put to a vote or otherwise addressed, now is the time.
Individuals interested in running for a seat on the board, please state your case below. What position/role do you want and why would you be good at it?
These are the terms that we have agreed upon.
1: There will be a provably fair election to choose an official board for the project covering a number of roles.
2: All members of the newly elected board will be fully vetted to one another. There will be at least one or more publicly visible identities to serve as spokespeople for the vetted circle to attest to the authenticity of the group. Chicken65 is welcome and encouraged to run for a seat on the board. In addition to any seat that he is elected into, he has a permanent title of Founder that he may use publicly.
3: The .rocks site is to be removed. The official forum thread, .com website, and direction of the overall project will be in the control of Signal7 while the new board is being created.
4: For the time being, Chicken65 will continue to hold 100k of the Trump Fund and Signal7 will hold the other 100k. Both halves of the fund will be stored in publicly visible wallets and will not be moved under any circumstances before a provably fair vote occurs to decide how to properly secure the fund, with whom, and under what terms.
The portion of the fund temporarily entrusted to me is here: TGyL5KXE4FdEUG1UAQ677aSamwCYcihGcn
Working block explorer: http://www.vicenet.org:3001
Once Chicken65 has the half returned to him from escrow, I will update with that address.
The voting system will be online within 24 hours. I will update again with instructions when it is ready.
The first series of votes will cover how the fund is ultimately secured.
If there are other outstanding issues that you would like to see put to a vote or otherwise addressed, now is the time.
Individuals interested in running for a seat on the board, please state your case below. What position/role do you want and why would you be good at it?
OP updated - appended Sabastian's response.
I have been speaking with Chicken65 this morning about terms to peacefully resolve this situation. I have agreed to continue the discussion in public on his moderated thread to attempt to come to a fair agreement before beginning any voting.
Awesome, already sent through an email
Enjoy your independence fam, you've earned it
Enjoy your independence fam, you've earned it
Chicken65 has agreed to unlock the official thread and resume conversations about escrowing the TrumpFund.
Locking this thread.
Locking this thread.
Signal did you mean to post the (ftp?) user and pass?
No. It was a mistake. Firewall closed. Thank you.
Signal did you mean to post the (ftp?) user and pass?
I just wrote +1 for the post Signal7 did on the moderated thread and my +1 comment was removed.
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This is exciting!!
Here is my repost from the other thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1536318.20
Okay, here is the solution to this problem,and its very simple: As a community, we organize and elect a new leadership team and ignore Chicken65 (and his sockpuppets).
All activity by Chicken65 will simply be cast out as a rogue Trumpcoin fan that has nothing to do with the official management team. As "payment" Chicken65 may keep his Trump Fund and whatever other coins he may have accumulated, and do what he likes with it. If he wants to donate, great, if not, oh well.
It is important that the community comes together and elect new leaders. Whoever owns the .com domain should chime in.
The good news is that if we can fix the blockchain, then a fork doesnt even need to happen and this transition can go even smoother. If someone with some technical expertise could shine some light on the question of fork or no fork, and the status of the blockchain.
We also need to vet the old leaders, particularly CantStump. We all know Chicken65 uses sockpuppets and has several alt accounts.
Finally, I would float the possibility of creating a separate backers forum, possibly on a simple free forum website where we can consolidate everyone ( I know theres people on /biz/ reading this) that is interested in the project.
I know another member suggested the creation of a special Trumpfund wallet that will be locked until a certain date to be donated to Trump's campaign, which I think is a great idea.
Okay, here is the solution to this problem,and its very simple: As a community, we organize and elect a new leadership team and ignore Chicken65 (and his sockpuppets).
All activity by Chicken65 will simply be cast out as a rogue Trumpcoin fan that has nothing to do with the official management team. As "payment" Chicken65 may keep his Trump Fund and whatever other coins he may have accumulated, and do what he likes with it. If he wants to donate, great, if not, oh well.
It is important that the community comes together and elect new leaders. Whoever owns the .com domain should chime in.
The good news is that if we can fix the blockchain, then a fork doesnt even need to happen and this transition can go even smoother. If someone with some technical expertise could shine some light on the question of fork or no fork, and the status of the blockchain.
We also need to vet the old leaders, particularly CantStump. We all know Chicken65 uses sockpuppets and has several alt accounts.
Finally, I would float the possibility of creating a separate backers forum, possibly on a simple free forum website where we can consolidate everyone ( I know theres people on /biz/ reading this) that is interested in the project.
I know another member suggested the creation of a special Trumpfund wallet that will be locked until a certain date to be donated to Trump's campaign, which I think is a great idea.
I'm pretty sure this is a working, correct explorer.
http://www.vicenet.org:3001/
I'm on block 262688 atm.
http://www.vicenet.org:3001/
I'm on block 262688 atm.
yes it works and its fully accurate.
signal we need you to wrestle control back of trump coin. chicken is insane! no one believes him! the trump coin price is tanked because of chicken!
I'm pretty sure this is a working, correct explorer.
http://www.vicenet.org:3001/
I'm on block 262688 atm.
http://www.vicenet.org:3001/
I'm on block 262688 atm.
1: There will be a provably fair election to choose an official board for the project covering a number of roles.
2: All members of the newly elected board will be fully vetted to one another. There will be at least one or more publicly visible identities to serve as spokespeople for the vetted circle to attest to the authenticity of the group. Chicken65 is welcome and encouraged to run for a seat on the board. In addition to any seat that he is elected into, he has a permanent title of Founder that he may use publicly.
3: The .rocks site is to be removed. The official forum thread, .com website, and overall direction of the project will be in the control of Signal7 while the new board is being created.
4: For the time being, Chicken65 will continue to hold 100k of the Trump Fund and Signal7 will hold the other 100k. Both halves of the fund will be stored in publicly visible wallets and will not be moved under any circumstances before a provably fair vote occurs to decide how to properly secure the fund, with whom, and under what terms.
The portion of the fund temporarily entrusted to me is here: TGyL5KXE4FdEUG1UAQ677aSamwCYcihGcn
The fund has now been moved into our management system and can be found here: TSt65isKg47WXPEXa7Rq866QCTNxYFL2CB
Working block explorer: http://chain.blockpioneers.info/trump
Once Chicken65 has the half returned to him from escrow, I will update with that address.
The voting system will be online within 24 hours. I will update again with instructions when it is ready.
The first series of votes will cover how the fund is ultimately secured.
If there are other outstanding issues that you would like to see put to a vote or otherwise addressed, now is the time.
Individuals interested in running for a seat on the board, please state your case below. What position/role do you want and why would you be good at it?
UPDATE: 7/6/2016
Thank you for your responses to yesterday's post. I am very much looking forward to processing the submissions and getting to know you all better.
Some of the responses are quite impressive.
The new voting system is now online at http://vote.trumpcoin.com (invitation only for now)
Our first vote will only be an opinion poll to test the system and hopefully collect some good feedback to move forward with.
I will be contacting a few people with invitations to come in and help test things out before I open registration up to everyone.
2: All members of the newly elected board will be fully vetted to one another. There will be at least one or more publicly visible identities to serve as spokespeople for the vetted circle to attest to the authenticity of the group. Chicken65 is welcome and encouraged to run for a seat on the board. In addition to any seat that he is elected into, he has a permanent title of Founder that he may use publicly.
3: The .rocks site is to be removed. The official forum thread, .com website, and overall direction of the project will be in the control of Signal7 while the new board is being created.
4: For the time being, Chicken65 will continue to hold 100k of the Trump Fund and Signal7 will hold the other 100k. Both halves of the fund will be stored in publicly visible wallets and will not be moved under any circumstances before a provably fair vote occurs to decide how to properly secure the fund, with whom, and under what terms.
The fund has now been moved into our management system and can be found here: TSt65isKg47WXPEXa7Rq866QCTNxYFL2CB
Working block explorer: http://chain.blockpioneers.info/trump
Once Chicken65 has the half returned to him from escrow, I will update with that address.
The voting system will be online within 24 hours. I will update again with instructions when it is ready.
The first series of votes will cover how the fund is ultimately secured.
If there are other outstanding issues that you would like to see put to a vote or otherwise addressed, now is the time.
Individuals interested in running for a seat on the board, please state your case below. What position/role do you want and why would you be good at it?
UPDATE: 7/6/2016
Thank you for your responses to yesterday's post. I am very much looking forward to processing the submissions and getting to know you all better.
Some of the responses are quite impressive.
The new voting system is now online at http://vote.trumpcoin.com (invitation only for now)
Our first vote will only be an opinion poll to test the system and hopefully collect some good feedback to move forward with.
I will be contacting a few people with invitations to come in and help test things out before I open registration up to everyone.
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