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legendary
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December 28, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
#25

Actually, you are saying it backward. Personal ambition doesn't necessarily lead to leadership. Both of us are examples of this.

But consider. How often does a leader become a leader without being pushy? People don't often go to a simple farmer or businessman, take hold of him, and push him into a leadership role, without him at least asking for the job. They might suggest the idea to him. But it is his ambition that moves him to move forward with the idea... even being a simple, tiny-town council member.

Regarding my signature, thank you for agreeing with me that Covid, at least in its original state a couple of years ago, wasn't much of a deal. Two things about this:
1. Why doesn't the medial know this, so that they are stop pushing vaxxes, and stop issuing the useless mask mandates in places?;
2. The vaxx caused Covid is what is harming and killing almost all people who get Covid these days.

Cool

Again, your interpretation of what I say is not what I say. For MOST PEOPLE, other simply die unless treated. As there are quite a few of those, you could not let people catch it all at the same time. I will not go into a discussion on vaccines because you know nothing about biology, medicine and probably anything that I could call science. I do known a few doctors and some of them took the vaccine first day and others decided not to. All people who have proper medical knowledge yet not agreed on what is better.

I am not an example of "not being a leader" and I am not an example of what you'd call ambitious, nor particularly "pushy" as I see it.


If you are trying to tell us that you are a non-pushy person who is a leader, what are you a leader of? Many of us would like to know. Your family?


I am not a medically trained person, either. I have listened to the statistics, besides many medical people. Statistics show that Covid vaxxed people are being sent in the direction of death. Many die almost on the spot of being vaccinated. For some it takes a week. Others a month. Others longer up to years. Covid can easily be cured with Ivermectin.

And I am not trying to tell you to go out and check into it. I'm simply letting you know so that you can do what you want with the info. However, if you believe without checking both sides of the story, you will be missing it. I know. It's difficult to check it out.

The problem with the American Republic is that the people don't know the power they have in basic American law.

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legendary
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Do not die for Putin
December 27, 2022, 06:04:17 PM
#24
^^^ Here is the problem. There are two kinds of people in this world:
1. The pushy, ambitious kind... leaders;
2. Simple, honest, workers just living life... followers.

The pushy, ambitious kind always want more. They become leaders because they see it as a way to get more.

The simple, honest, life-living, followers simply aren't pushy enough to become leaders

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As usual, and as I would expect from a Trump follower, simple, but wrong, answers to complex problems. There are many "types" of people, and leadership it has nothing to do with being "pushy" - there are tens of leadership styles and people are not divided in "followers" and "leaders", most people are both of them at some point in time and for certain things. I am thinking of a Personal Assistant I know, mostly doer / follower at  work, but leading a local charity.

Leadership is not necessarily linked to personal ambition.

BTW, about your signature thing... For most people, COVID symptoms go away in one day to a week... without doing anything in particular.

Actually, you are saying it backward. Personal ambition doesn't necessarily lead to leadership. Both of us are examples of this.

But consider. How often does a leader become a leader without being pushy? People don't often go to a simple farmer or businessman, take hold of him, and push him into a leadership role, without him at least asking for the job. They might suggest the idea to him. But it is his ambition that moves him to move forward with the idea... even being a simple, tiny-town council member.

Regarding my signature, thank you for agreeing with me that Covid, at least in its original state a couple of years ago, wasn't much of a deal. Two things about this:
1. Why doesn't the medial know this, so that they are stop pushing vaxxes, and stop issuing the useless mask mandates in places?;
2. The vaxx caused Covid is what is harming and killing almost all people who get Covid these days.

Cool

Again, your interpretation of what I say is not what I say. For MOST PEOPLE, other simply die unless treated. As there are quite a few of those, you could not let people catch it all at the same time. I will not go into a discussion on vaccines because you know nothing about biology, medicine and probably anything that I could call science. I do known a few doctors and some of them took the vaccine first day and others decided not to. All people who have proper medical knowledge yet not agreed on what is better.

I am not an example of "not being a leader" and I am not an example of what you'd call ambitious, nor particularly "pushy" as I see it.

legendary
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December 23, 2022, 04:40:41 PM
#23
^^^ Here is the problem. There are two kinds of people in this world:
1. The pushy, ambitious kind... leaders;
2. Simple, honest, workers just living life... followers.

The pushy, ambitious kind always want more. They become leaders because they see it as a way to get more.

The simple, honest, life-living, followers simply aren't pushy enough to become leaders

...

As usual, and as I would expect from a Trump follower, simple, but wrong, answers to complex problems. There are many "types" of people, and leadership it has nothing to do with being "pushy" - there are tens of leadership styles and people are not divided in "followers" and "leaders", most people are both of them at some point in time and for certain things. I am thinking of a Personal Assistant I know, mostly doer / follower at  work, but leading a local charity.

Leadership is not necessarily linked to personal ambition.

BTW, about your signature thing... For most people, COVID symptoms go away in one day to a week... without doing anything in particular.

Actually, you are saying it backward. Personal ambition doesn't necessarily lead to leadership. Both of us are examples of this.

But consider. How often does a leader become a leader without being pushy? People don't often go to a simple farmer or businessman, take hold of him, and push him into a leadership role, without him at least asking for the job. They might suggest the idea to him. But it is his ambition that moves him to move forward with the idea... even being a simple, tiny-town council member.

Regarding my signature, thank you for agreeing with me that Covid, at least in its original state a couple of years ago, wasn't much of a deal. Two things about this:
1. Why doesn't the medial know this, so that they are stop pushing vaxxes, and stop issuing the useless mask mandates in places?;
2. The vaxx caused Covid is what is harming and killing almost all people who get Covid these days.

Cool
legendary
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Merit: 1624
Do not die for Putin
December 23, 2022, 04:03:26 PM
#22
^^^ Here is the problem. There are two kinds of people in this world:
1. The pushy, ambitious kind... leaders;
2. Simple, honest, workers just living life... followers.

The pushy, ambitious kind always want more. They become leaders because they see it as a way to get more.

The simple, honest, life-living, followers simply aren't pushy enough to become leaders

...

As usual, and as I would expect from a Trump follower, simple, but wrong, answers to complex problems. There are many "types" of people, and leadership it has nothing to do with being "pushy" - there are tens of leadership styles and people are not divided in "followers" and "leaders", most people are both of them at some point in time and for certain things. I am thinking of a Personal Assistant I know, mostly doer / follower at  work, but leading a local charity.

Leadership is not necessarily linked to personal ambition.

BTW, about your signature thing... For most people, COVID symptoms go away in one day to a week... without doing anything in particular.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
December 23, 2022, 03:01:18 PM
#21
^^^ Here is the problem. There are two kinds of people in this world:
1. The pushy, ambitious kind... leaders;
2. Simple, honest, workers just living life... followers.

The pushy, ambitious kind always want more. They become leaders because they see it as a way to get more.

The simple, honest, life-living, followers simply aren't pushy enough to become leaders.

Sure, Trump is ambitious somewhat. But he wasn't ambitious enough to fight the Biden coup in a way that would make him a winner. Trump is more into steady, even, somewhat-honest, business growth. If he hadn't had a father who was a bit of an ambitious businessman, Trump wouldn't have the wealth he has today.

Biden, on the other hand, doesn't care where his money comes from... as long as he gets it. Bow to the super-wealthy. Invest in other countries in unconscionable ways (through Hunter). Push into the Presidency, even though he knows it was done through a coup.

The followers will never overcome the leaders. Why not? Not ambitious enough... or crooked enough. The best we can hope for is a leader who is somewhat ambitious, good-ish and honest-ish.


The Story of the Christmas Truce of 1914--and Its Eternal Message


War had already been waging in Europe for months when Pope Benedict issued a plea from Rome on Dec. 7, 1914 to leaders of Europe: declare a Christmas truce.

Benedict saw how badly peace was needed, even if it was only for a day. The First Battle of Ypres alone, fought from October 19 to November 22, had resulted in some 200,000 casualties (mostly German and French soldiers, but also thousands of English and Belgians). The First Battle of the Marne was even worse.

In light of this carnage, the pope asked "that the guns may fall silent at least upon the night the angels sang."

The European leaders ignored his plea.

Then something miraculous happened on the eve of Christmas. From No Man's Land—the area between the trench works of Allied and Central forces—German troops, in a spontaneous act, put down their weapons and invited English soldiers to celebrate Christmas with them. It's remembered today as the Christmas Truce.

The British cartoonist Bruce Bairnsfather was one of many who chronicled the event. A machine gunner in the 1st Battalion of the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, Bairnsfather was shivering in the muck of a three-foot trench on a cold night, munching on stale biscuits and chain-smoking, when he heard a noise at about 10 p.m. Via History:

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Afterwards, not everyone was pleased with the gaiety. Some military leaders reportedly seethed over the Christmas truce. But Bairnsfather suggests the soldiers themselves cherished the moment, which they sorely needed.

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legendary
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Do not die for Putin
December 22, 2022, 07:33:54 PM
#20
So even you see through Slow Joe... I think of him as more like Boris Yeltsin but instead of a drinking problem Slow Joe has a dementia problem and belongs in a Senior home. So to both of you who would you have picked as the democratic nominee instead of Joe Biden? I think I would vote for Mitt Romney over Joe Biden and that was the reason I didn't vote in 2012 because Romney was such an arrogant snot. I would prefer if Ron DeSantis got the nomination over Trump because then you'd have a new more powerful enemy to hate on instead of him.

I've seen plenty of Americans that are right leaning that would take Hillary Clinton over Joe Biden, but only to the extent that Clinton is a capitalist and isn't afraid of pissing the progressives off.

Recalling an excerpt from HRC's book where she ripped all over Bernie Sanders and the progressive agenda, it gave me quite the laugh to see people get upset over a democratic capitalist, as if it's somehow controversial.

Maybe Clinton should run again in 2024, and even better if Trump did so to. There wasn't enough suspense the first time, round two will be much better. The Republican party would be in shambles trying to pick between DeSantis and Trump, and the Democratic party would implode trying to pick between Clinton and a progressive (and Kamala Harris, but she is in her own category).

This may be just me, but I am ok with "slow Joe" as long as there is a proper team behind to get things done. A president must mainly be a leader, and there is no need for hasty decisions nor irate insults to anyone who dares to think differently or criticize.

Regardless, I would also prefer a different candidate for the future. If Joe, Clinton, Trump and the like are really the best the US can offer to itself, something is seriously wrong with the system.
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
December 22, 2022, 06:49:08 PM
#19
It looks like Republicans are recovering their senses.

Polls show that Trump is losing ground on the GOP primaries.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-lashes-polls-showing-ron-desantis-big-lead-rcna62000

The prospects of a slow moving coup are dimming away.

A major danger for the American Democracy seems over.
legendary
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April 24, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
#18
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Put down the crack pipe mate.

Trump don't need that kind of shit to win the elections in the US while his opponent is a senile demented man.

He shouldn't have lost against him in 2020 too when you think about it. If you are into conspiracy theories, you should think about how Biden won against Trump 2020 instead. It is because when you compare these guys, clearly something went wrong in 2020. I mean you need to be blind or deaf or retarded or all three to elect Biden over Trump.

Just look at Biden, he can't construct a full damn sentence without getting help and he even fails to do so when he does. How many times now he ignored the press conferences since he was elected?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if8cI2KoLO0

He is full of energy! \s
legendary
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April 24, 2022, 11:05:39 AM
#17
Notice how the focus is on some Presidential candidate. Yet the IRS keeps on raking it in. If Trump or Biden ran on the platform of dismantelling the FED and the IRS, would the people like them more?

Cool
copper member
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April 24, 2022, 10:57:48 AM
#16
A serious problem for Trump's plan is that Biden is running again and he will be in power.

If Slow Joe runs again, it can only help Trump. May not even need a coup, given that CNN et al keep finding new ways to give him free advertising.

Democrats should get off their asses and nominate someone with a pulse but I doubt that will happen, so they'll probably go full QAnon and start accusing Trump of fraud if he wins.

Democrats took the opportunity to enthusiastically nominate a senile puppet. They got exactly what they wanted. Why change that now?
member
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April 19, 2022, 07:15:37 PM
#15
In politics nothing is impossible. Trump winning the next presidential election would depend on various factors. The economy is a significant determinant of the outcome of any election and Biden is not doing badly. The rate of unemployment has reduced drastically.

Although most Americans feel that Biden should have done more to protect and support Ukraine but he the US has been a key force that have assisted Ukraine to turn the tide against the Russians.

One of the main challenge Trump faced was that it was alleged that he is a racist. This made him loose the support of most people 'coloured' people. But Biden has unified the American people. The confirmation of the first black American Supreme Court Justice is a clear indicator of the fact that Biden is really giving minorities a voice in America.

Trump's first coup was the introduction of Truth Social Media platform to compete with other big tech companies but it failed abysmally.

His coup would keep failing until he redeems himself from the accusations that he is a corrupt racist.


Trump and Biden don't matter in the greater equation of who has absolute power in the United States. Who runs the United States? The deep state (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc) and NGOs (WEF, Davos, UN, Bilderberg, etc) represented by elite (George Soros, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Jeff Bezos, etc) usually suspects. They don't want anyone to have a voice and use race as a division and diversionary tactic to get your eyes off the ball. Personally, I think Trump and Biden are all in the same club laughing at all of us because their power grabs for the elite have been very successful because no one will stand up against them all over this whole overblown pandemic and now it will be the war's fault why so many people will soon die. See how that works?
legendary
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April 19, 2022, 04:29:57 PM
#14
^^^ The best benefit for the American people that a Biden win in 2024 would be, is that the people would really find the ways to make sure the elections would be fair and honest from then on. Too much of Biden already. Four more years would sour everybody.

Cool
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April 15, 2022, 04:11:10 AM
#13
A serious problem for Trump's plan is that Biden is running again and he will be in power.

If Slow Joe runs again, it can only help Trump. May not even need a coup, given that CNN et al keep finding new ways to give him free advertising.

Democrats should get off their asses and nominate someone with a pulse but I doubt that will happen, so they'll probably go full QAnon and start accusing Trump of fraud if he wins.

I mean, it sure as hell didn't help him the first time, so why would it this time around Smiley The thing is, incumbent president's always win second terms in times of crisis. The current war between Ukraine and Russia might not last long enough for the next USA election, but the cold war it started will be the closest to a crisis in years, and that will only help Biden. Not to mention Trumps praising of Putin, I doubt that can go well for him...
legendary
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April 15, 2022, 04:03:27 AM
#12
In politics nothing is impossible. Trump winning the next presidential election would depend on various factors. The economy is a significant determinant of the outcome of any election and Biden is not doing badly. The rate of unemployment has reduced drastically.

Although most Americans feel that Biden should have done more to protect and support Ukraine but he the US has been a key force that have assisted Ukraine to turn the tide against the Russians.

One of the main challenge Trump faced was that it was alleged that he is a racist. This made him loose the support of most people 'coloured' people. But Biden has unified the American people. The confirmation of the first black American Supreme Court Justice is a clear indicator of the fact that Biden is really giving minorities a voice in America.

Trump's first coup was the introduction of Truth Social Media platform to compete with other big tech companies but it failed abysmally.

His coup would keep failing until he redeems himself from the accusations that he is a corrupt racist.
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
April 14, 2022, 04:25:10 PM
#11
More people recently giving time to this issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasnmWrGD64 (another comedian, Seth Meyers)
https://news.yahoo.com/seth-meyers-says-trumps-latest-065512756.html

Even republican sites report about this:
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/02/15/behar-republicans-attempting-slow-moving-coup-in-this-country/

We are still long time away from 2024. Trump astonishingly keeps a lead on Biden:
https://nypost.com/2022/03/29/trump-would-beat-biden-by-6-points-in-2024-election-poll/
sr. member
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March 16, 2022, 02:53:06 PM
#10
I'm pretty sure Maher is a massive flip-flopper, so he ain't credible. Also, what do you mean by coup?

he was a credible jewish woke empowering poltician till trum,

after trump he is just a zoinistic (pro westerstern war mongerer)

he has no idea about the antizionistic elements in the leftist movement he has empowered.
newbie
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March 15, 2022, 11:08:36 PM
#9
I'm pretty sure Maher is a massive flip-flopper, so he ain't credible. Also, what do you mean by coup?
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March 15, 2022, 10:46:15 PM
#8
I think if Trump runs as a presidential candidate in the next election he has a much better chance of winning than Biden. He has plenty of "cards" at his disposal to corner Biden and get him a bigger vote in some states.
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
March 15, 2022, 05:16:06 PM
#7
A serious problem for Trump's plan is that Biden is running again and he will be in power.

If Slow Joe runs again, it can only help Trump. May not even need a coup, given that CNN et al keep finding new ways to give him free advertising.

Democrats should get off their asses and nominate someone with a pulse but I doubt that will happen, so they'll probably go full QAnon and start accusing Trump of fraud if he wins.

It seems some Americans are starting to finally stop supporting Trump. Maybe the coup won't have any conditions to go ahead.

His polls results have been going down for some time:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/29/sundaytake-trump-polls/
https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/as-trump-crashes-in-polls-new-push-for-down-ballot-resurgence-87181893868

And possible rivals for the Republican nomination are appearing:
https://news.yahoo.com/warning-trump-poll-shows-ex-100058105.html

member
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January 29, 2022, 08:09:41 AM
#6
So even you see through Slow Joe... I think of him as more like Boris Yeltsin but instead of a drinking problem Slow Joe has a dementia problem and belongs in a Senior home. So to both of you who would you have picked as the democratic nominee instead of Joe Biden? I think I would vote for Mitt Romney over Joe Biden and that was the reason I didn't vote in 2012 because Romney was such an arrogant snot. I would prefer if Ron DeSantis got the nomination over Trump because then you'd have a new more powerful enemy to hate on instead of him.

I've seen plenty of Americans that are right leaning that would take Hillary Clinton over Joe Biden, but only to the extent that Clinton is a capitalist and isn't afraid of pissing the progressives off.

Recalling an excerpt from HRC's book where she ripped all over Bernie Sanders and the progressive agenda, it gave me quite the laugh to see people get upset over a democratic capitalist, as if it's somehow controversial.

Maybe Clinton should run again in 2024, and even better if Trump did so to. There wasn't enough suspense the first time, round two will be much better. The Republican party would be in shambles trying to pick between DeSantis and Trump, and the Democratic party would implode trying to pick between Clinton and a progressive (and Kamala Harris, but she is in her own category).

Clinton over Biden? They're pretty much two coins of different factions i.e. The Clintons were a dynamo of the Democratic party back in the day as they raised huge funds through their foundation. Whereas, I see Biden as a subsidy of Obama faction even though he has received direct contribution in kind himself. In 2016, when Hillary was a candidate she was bodily unstable unlike our current president whose mind is completely gone... There was video of her collapsing near the loading van and her escorts had to load her into it. She even had her own on standby ambulance at a speaking event she was at. The other part is she is completely insane with her convictions against her enemies at least Biden seems to stumble through this rather slowly with the Supreme Court slowing down his agenda. So unfortunately I'd rather have Biden over Hillary or Kamala.

As for Clinton's nomination as the Democratic candidate I would say that was rigged against Bernie Sanders (I'm no Bernie guy btw) as the Democratic voting bloc has been educated and conditioned that what Bernie wants is what should be even without looking at localized modern history that socialism (and hell Communism) doesn't work (see Venezuela and Soviet Russia as examples). Anyway by the numbers Bernie should have won but the Democratic nomination is dominated by Super Delegates and those Delegates gave the nomination to Hillary Clinton.

You're right both parties are in abject collapse and maybe this is how we are put into a great reset where there is great obsolesce of many peoples. Hell robots and AI can pretty much do anything a person could do today. That is why they unleashed this virus and a great distraction of this and a great culling by our Elite deep state masters.

The January 6th coup attempt was rather... quick.

In the course of a few hours, we could have changed timelines quite dramatically...

If they had managed to get the gun into the room with the room filled with representatives and only execute less than 10 members of congress; Trump would be president today.

The next coup attempt will be more successful as they learned what they can get away with during this attempt.

It was rather quick if you looked at all of 2020... The media called it the Summer of Love when it was more like the Summer of Violent "protests". Hell there was a burning building behind someone and the media reporter called it "mostly peaceful"! Talk about doctoring your words! But Jan 6th was just so horrible... It was a peaceful protest until provocateurs stepped into get people to go onto the capital grounds and then mayhem ensued because the provocateurs were mixed into the crowd as they got onto the grounds. Afterwards the media suddenly acted as though it was the worst thing ever yet they glanced over the other violent protests that came before it! If they mentioned them then I would not see them as biased with an agenda. Basically history is repeating itself again and this looks like something out of Nazi Germany or Communist Russia or China as the opposition has no voice but the establishment has all the money and means to shut people down.

Anyway, if I recall correctly you are running as Democrat in your state right? Look be different and unique from your party like Manchin and Yang and you'll be successful in getting people from both sides of the aisle to vote for you and support you. Otherwise, you're just like the rest of them and will be seen as such by moderates and right wing people along with even the radical leftists.
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