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February 11, 2019, 04:34:29 PM
#56

Stfu retard, you don't even know what the word "fair"is you pathetic retard.
I can't wait to see your account get the red colors so you go cry everywhere.
Who give a fuck what you think? Who the fuck are you?
hey man be social, its the place where you should keep control on your words. Every single person who discussing on this thread isn't your enemy. you opened the thread and they are participating here to describe you exact reason for your tagging. why anyone can't use "fair" , obviously the reason behind your account tagging is fair enough. it doesn't matter whats your opinion about it but it matters you break the forum rules.
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Spear the bees
February 11, 2019, 04:16:42 PM
#55
Stfu retard pathetic retard fuck fuck
Sensible.
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February 11, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
#54
I can't wait to see your account get the red colors so you go cry everywhere.

How will his account get red colors ?
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February 11, 2019, 05:37:35 AM
#53

The most sense here is you reading only what you want to, repeating already answered questions, and what you don't like, you ignore it and continue repeating.
You have already got all your answer i think. Reason behind giving you negative trust is fair enough. Stop putting false blame on DTs.

In my view the most sense here they read only which are important for forum user, not the repetitive poem written by same poet.

Stfu retard, you don't even know what the word "fair"is you pathetic retard.
I can't wait to see your account get the red colors so you go cry everywhere.
Who give a fuck what you think? Who the fuck are you?
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February 10, 2019, 09:09:42 PM
#52

The most sense here is you reading only what you want to, repeating already answered questions, and what you don't like, you ignore it and continue repeating.
You have already got all your answer i think. Reason behind giving you negative trust is fair enough. Stop putting false blame on DTs.

In my view the most sense here they read only which are important for forum user, not the repetitive poem written by same poet.
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February 10, 2019, 07:03:33 PM
#51
The Pharmacist:


The interesting part was person losing 38btc was not really interested paying 0.1 btc which  will cost him less than lawyer to try find solution.
You really are a scammer.  I can't even fathom somebody honest writing something like that.

Could you please show us who and how did i scam?

TMAN, owlcatz, Lauda clearly abuse their powers by posting negative feedback in my profile for no reason, not to mention if they see someone who do not support their words and what they do, clearly "I don't trust this person" is enough to ruin someone reputation Smiley
And we all know they do that as team

I looked at your trust feedback, and it appears that there were variations of "I don't trust this person," but almost all negative feedbacks had a reference link.  Sure as a courtesy, it would be a bit better to have more specifics, beyond:  "I don't trust this person." and the referenced link.... but preferring more detail does not invalidate the trust feedback, even if the credibility of the feedback could be higher with more of an explanation contained therein.
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February 10, 2019, 05:36:53 PM
#50
Had a laugh at Rambotnic and the title, complaining about trust abuse, then he gave a neg feedback today for no reason and then said he will give me more red which I presume he thinks he will be a DT one day, I have never dealt with him.  Roll Eyes

Here is the message Rambotnic sent me.

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sup bitch, do you like the new colors at your profile? just wait i will make them more red

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February 10, 2019, 03:54:36 PM
#49
TMAN, owlcatz, Lauda clearly abuse their powers by posting negative feedback in my profile for no reason
There was a good reason for your negs, but you just don't understand where you fucked up and never will.  I don't trust you based on the 0.1BTC you tried to get out of someone who looked like he was getting scammed, vaguely claiming you could help and not saying how, and making a bunch of other shit up after the fact.  That's why you have red trust, and it's entirely valid.

Learn to quote posts properly, BTW.  I did not write this:


The interesting part was person losing 38btc was not really interested paying 0.1 btc which  will cost him less than lawyer to try find solution.
You did.
legendary
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February 10, 2019, 03:48:33 PM
#48
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Cloudbet denied telegram chat. It is somewhere in thread.

That makes you and scammer only persons talking with player about "bribe".

Maybe your friend cryptohunter can say a word or two about this case, the same way she strongly defended you before?
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February 10, 2019, 03:40:48 PM
#47
The Pharmacist:


The interesting part was person losing 38btc was not really interested paying 0.1 btc which  will cost him less than lawyer to try find solution.
You really are a scammer.  I can't even fathom somebody honest writing something like that.

Could you please show us who and how did i scam?

TMAN, owlcatz, Lauda clearly abuse their powers by posting negative feedback in my profile for no reason, not to mention if they see someone who do not support their words and what they do, clearly "I don't trust this person" is enough to ruin someone reputation Smiley
And we all know they do that as team
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February 04, 2019, 09:57:46 PM
#46
Why you keep repeating thing that i already answer ?
I didn't see you answer this at all...

You claimed you didn't tell him your full plan because he wasn't interested in paying you 0.1 BTC for your assistance...
Also why would person who is losing 38BTC would refuse help with payment AFTER?
The interesting part was person losing 38btc was not really interested paying 0.1 btc which  will cost him less than lawyer to try find solution.
I never mention my plan because he were not interested paying 0.1 after job to turn back his 38btc which is obviously a red flag.
4- I did say it multiply time and i would explain the strategy to him, if he were interested to pay 0.1 btc for chance to get 38btc.
Paying after successful job.
Everyone here is so blind how he was not even interested paying 0.1 for 38btc which makes me think his scam report is fake
...
7-  My hopes were to help the guy turn back his 38btc and earn 0.1
If he wanted to give me 1btc i would never say no.
When it is quite obvious from the chatlogs that he said three times that he would be happy to pay you (and pay as much as 3 BTC)... once he had his 38 BTC back.


So, given that we have now asserted that he was in fact willing to pay for your assistance, could you please explain why you didn't tell him the "secret plan" (ie. that he should try and use this opportunity to extract information from the scammer to expose him) and instead you just recommended that he pay the bribe to unlock his account?

And then, after he just flat out refused to send more money to the scammers... you said "I don't know what to say". Why, at this point, did you not tell him your cunning plan that he should pretend to go along with paying the money and/or use escrow and try to extract info about the scammers? Huh
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February 04, 2019, 08:27:36 PM
#45
Why you keep repeating thing that i already answer ?
Translation: he's caught, he knows it, and he's painted himself as far into a corner as is humanly possible, and is all out of imaginary fairy tale reasons why he wrote all that crap.  Rambotnic was playing it straight right up until he wrote:

If you asking garbage questions, then my answers are garbage for you.
I type answers to questions, and if you feel your questions and other people questions as garbage, then what i could say more...
...after which he started treating all of this as just dribbling idiot humor.  I think he called himself a cop and wanted to perform some lawyering as a side gig at one point. 

Still wondering if anyone is actually going to support him in his quest for the victimhood olympics trophy.  Obviously DT has terribly abused him.  Rambotnic even said it himself, so it must be true.

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Spear the bees
February 04, 2019, 08:11:21 PM
#44
6- I didn't disclose the part because obviously the scam report is fake, why would then someone refuse paying less money than hiring a lawyer to someone who wants money after the job is finished?
Because it doesn't make sense sending more money to someone who has already stolen from you. What's so hard to understand about this?

If you send money to a scammer that requests it, they will just keep it.
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February 04, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
#43
Why you keep repeating thing that i already answer ?
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February 04, 2019, 06:48:39 PM
#42
4- I did say it multiply time and i would explain the strategy to him, if he were interested to pay 0.1 btc for chance to get 38btc.
Paying after successful job.
Everyone here is so blind how he was not even interested paying 0.1 for 38btc which makes me think his scam report is fake
not interested? The chat log would indicate differently... in fact, he was willing to pay MORE



immediately following this... instead of revealing your "master plan" of exposing the scammer, you basically just tell him to pay up... MULTIPLE times Huh




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5- No sense of person not agreeing paying them in words so he could collect more information about the case.
You had MULTIPLE opportunities to mention your "master plan"... and yet you failed to do so once... even after he says he'll pay you 3 BTC if you help!!?! All you do is repeat "if you don't give them money, they won't unlock your account"


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6- I didn't disclose the part because obviously the scam report is fake, why would then someone refuse paying less money than hiring a lawyer to someone who wants money after the job is finished?
yeah... "obviously" fake because he doesn't want to follow your incredibly bad advice and pay scammers... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


After telling you AGAIN that he would pay:



He says the smartest thing in that entire chatlog:




Maybe the answer is to just say nothing... #JustSayin'
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February 04, 2019, 06:33:31 PM
#41
1- TRUE, all casinos with scamming reports worth more than 300btc+ doing that (this case is 38btc, there is other case for 300btc for the same casino.
So yeah, all the scamming casinos doing that.

You added "scamming" after the fact. Now you're adding "300btc+". I bet you can narrow it down to a specific scenario that justifies you in your own eyes, but what you said to that user on telegram was just that "all casinos do it" (i.e. demand "bribes") and that is simply false. Unless you would like to prove it, in which case - go ahead.

2- TRUE

3- TRUE

Same as above. Not all scamming casinos or "platforms" do it, if any at all. I've seen a few scammy exchanges demand extra deposits. Perhaps that's where you got the idea for your shakedown scheme.

Everyone here is so blind how he was not even interested paying 0.1 for 38btc which makes me think his scam report is fake

You were unable to explain how you would get the 38 BTC back so of course there was no reason to pay 0.1 BTC. Even with your post-factum explanation it still doesn't make sense. If your actual undisclosed-at-the-time "plan" was to talk to the scammers and not really pay the "bribe" then you had no plan to get the 38 BTC back. Refusing to pay 0.1 BTC indicates that the person you were talking to was likely smarter than you and/or thought you're a scammer, but it doesn't say anything about the 38 BTC claim itself.
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February 04, 2019, 06:12:47 PM
#40
ALL CASINOS DOING THAT !!!!

Not true.

ALL SCAMMING CASINOS DOING THAT,

Not true.

ALL SCAMMING PLATFORMS DOING THAT.

Not true.

I didn't lied he must pay it, saying he will pay it is his only way to obtain information.

Not true. You did say multiple times that he must pay in order to unlock the account. There was no mention of obtaining information.

I never mention my plan because he were not interested paying 0.1 after job to turn back his 38btc which is obviously a red flag.

No sane person would be interested in paying 0.1 BTC for the advice of sending money to scammers.

I don't need to made up anything, i just don't need to share my plan with anyone here but only the person who needed help.
You are  poor soul with less iq than monkey to realize what is going on around you mate.

That's the point - you didn't disclose your "plan" to the person you allegedly tried to help, which makes me think there was no such "plan" at the time.

No need to be offensive to monkeys, "mate".

What part of this situation makes any sense?

The part where Rambotnic hopes to get 5 2 1 BTC makes the most sense.

1- TRUE, all casinos with scamming reports worth more than 300btc+ doing that (this case is 38btc, there is other case for 300btc for the same casino.
So yeah, all the scamming casinos doing that.

2- TRUE

3- TRUE

4- I did say it multiply time and i would explain the strategy to him, if he were interested to pay 0.1 btc for chance to get 38btc.
Paying after successful job.
Everyone here is so blind how he was not even interested paying 0.1 for 38btc which makes me think his scam report is fake

5- No sense of person not agreeing paying them in words so he could collect more information about the case.

6- I didn't disclose the part because obviously the scam report is fake, why would then someone refuse paying less money than hiring a lawyer to someone who wants money after the job is finished?

7-  My hopes were to help the guy turn back his 38btc and earn 0.1
If he wanted to give me 1btc i would never say no.

The most sense here is you reading only what you want to, repeating already answered questions, and what you don't like, you ignore it and continue repeating.
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February 04, 2019, 05:26:07 PM
#39
ALL CASINOS DOING THAT !!!!

Not true.

ALL SCAMMING CASINOS DOING THAT,

Not true.

ALL SCAMMING PLATFORMS DOING THAT.

Not true.

I didn't lied he must pay it, saying he will pay it is his only way to obtain information.

Not true. You did say multiple times that he must pay in order to unlock the account. There was no mention of obtaining information.

I never mention my plan because he were not interested paying 0.1 after job to turn back his 38btc which is obviously a red flag.

No sane person would be interested in paying 0.1 BTC for the advice of sending money to scammers.

I don't need to made up anything, i just don't need to share my plan with anyone here but only the person who needed help.
You are  poor soul with less iq than monkey to realize what is going on around you mate.

That's the point - you didn't disclose your "plan" to the person you allegedly tried to help, which makes me think there was no such "plan" at the time.

No need to be offensive to monkeys, "mate".

What part of this situation makes any sense?

The part where Rambotnic hopes to get 5 2 1 BTC makes the most sense.
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February 04, 2019, 04:57:17 PM
#38
Scammer: I won't let you withdraw your 38 BTC.
Player: I will open a scam accusation!
Scammer: Give me 5 BTC and I will give you 38 BTC.
Player: No! How about 1 BTC?
Scammer: OK. Here is your 38 BTC.


What part of this situation makes any sense?
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February 04, 2019, 04:32:12 PM
#37
Show me, and prove where exactly i lie ?
Extract money from somebody ? Dude, can you even read i would earn those money only if i do something for them?
What scheme ? "If only there was a word of it" ? Really ? What else is "there" over the virtual space?

We've been through this many times. You lied that "all casinos do this". You lied that ginalli must pay the "bribe" to unlock the account. You never mentioned your plan so you either lied to ginalli or you're lying now and you made the plan up after the fact.

BTW the word for "deceptive scheme" is "scam".

All of you crying and over react because i wanted money for my time AFTER job is done, and none of you taking the time to help the guy for free.

You're not helping either, you're just making it worse by giving bullshit advice and that's the most generous interpretation of what happened.
ALL CASINOS DOING THAT !!!! ALL SCAMMING CASINOS DOING THAT, ALL SCAMMING PLATFORMS DOING THAT.
I didn't lied he must pay it, saying he will pay it is his only way to obtain information.
I never mention my plan because he were not interested paying 0.1 after job to turn back his 38btc which is obviously a red flag.
I don't need to made up anything, i just don't need to share my plan with anyone here but only the person who needed help.
You are  poor soul with less iq than monkey to realize what is going on around you mate.
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